European fighters

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Ackers 2nd career win comes against some guy named S Argirios. No nationality given in boxRec. His fight with Ackers his only career bout. I did some searching of the name Argirios and came up with some Greek connections, so I've put his nationality as Greece, but probably that's not right. Who knows. These kind of 1 bout boxers, you don't really no much what to do rating them because you can't really test them. So here is S Argirios to pad your stable of "tomato cans".

S Argirios Rating 1 Greece?
Heavyweight 1965
0 wins / 1 loss / 0 draws / 0 KO

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Not sure of the nationality of Argirios. Only fight in BoxRec was a 4 round decision loss to Manfred Ackers in Frankfurt, Germany on April 30th, 1965.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Manfred's getting ready to go to bed Resuming his dismal career tomorrow

[David Myers]

List of EBU and Commonwealth champions and challengers from 1945 to 1975 not found in the original TBCB database has been moved <a href="http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?p=1089849">here</a>.

[David Myers]

The list of EBU and Commonwealth fighters still needing to be rated has been moved <a href="http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?p=1089851">here</a>.

[David Myers]

Italian heavyweight. Born 1946. Fought from 1969 to 1980. Record: 37-12-0 (24).

Italian heavyweight champion, 1970-1971 and 1973-1976. Tko'd by Joe Bugner in tenth round of May 1974 EBU heavyweight championship bout.

[David Myers]

Light heavy from Ghana. Record: 10-17-2 (4).

Tko'd by Tony Mundine in September 1976 in Commonwealth light heavyweight title bout, although what Attivor was doing in a fight for any title whatever is a mystery.

[David Myers]

Trial horse middleweight from Trinidad who kept getting title shots. Fought from 1965 to 1982. Record: 23-39-2 (3).

Marks lost four Commonwealth middleweight championship bouts: twice to Tony Mundine (August 1973 by KO, September 1973 by decision) and twice to Monty Bentham (July 1975 and July 1976, both by decision). He also lost a December 1978 fight for something called the WBC Fecarbox middleweight title when he was knocked out by Fulgencio Obelmejias.

[Gunsmoke]

I think I've found the fighter that trumps your one Rocco... his name is Reggie Strickland, CW. How this guy gets a license is anyone's guess.

Reggie Strickland

Mark

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by David Myers

Here is a list of the EBU and Commonwealth champions and challengers from 1945 to 1975 who need to be rated. If anyone wants to rate any of the fighters below, please--please--feel welcome. There are 165 boxers remaining to be rated. And with so many yet to go, I have no toes to tread upon.

Ali Afakasi
Luis Aisa
Juan Albornoz
George Aldridge
George Angelo
Jose Arranz
<i>Victor Attivor</I> (Rated 2/24)
Maurice Auzel
Dominique Azzaro
Moya Cesareo Barrera
<i>Piermario Baruzzi</i> (Rated 2/24)
Warner Batchelor
Otello Belardinelli
Valere Benedetto
Silvano Bertini
Walter Blaser
Eddie Blay
Ken Bradley
Franco Brondi
Barry Brown
Darby Brown
Fred Burns
Elio Calcabrini
Milo Calhoun
Nevio Carbi
Guy Caudron
Auguste Caulet
Pietro Ceru
Dominique Cesari
Ralph Charles
Felix Chiocca
Attu Clottey
Johnny Cooke
Carmelo Coscia
Elio Cotena
Stan Cullis
Franz Czandl
Jean de Keers
Freddy DeKerpel
Emile Delmine
Pascal Di Benedetto
Emile Di Cristo
Souleymane Diallo
Matt Donovan
Andre Drille
Bobby Dunne
Jose Manuel Duran
Pat Dwyer
Jupp Elze
Salvatore Fabrizio
Romano Fanali
Enzo Farinelli
Heinz Freytag
Robert Gallois
Carmelo (Gancho) Garcia
Manolo Garcia
Marc Gervais
Domingo Gimenez
Giovanni Girgenti
Tommy Glencross
Remo Golfarini
Jose Ramon Gomez Fouz
Jo Gonzales
Antonio Guinaldo
Michele Gullotti
Werner Handtke
Joergen Hansen
Max Hebeisen
Chuck Henderson
Jacques Herbillon
Darkie Hughes
Kevin James
Jose Antonio Jiminez
Roy John
Jacques Kechichian
John Kellie
John Kelly
Cemal Kemaci
Karl-Heinz Klein
Klaus Klein
Louis Klopper
Jean Pierre Le Jaouen
Michel Lefevbre
Yolande Leveque
Derek Lloyd
Johan Louw
Roy Louw
Joe Lucy
Jean Machterlinck
Edwin (Fighting) Mack
Kahu Mahanga
Giovanni Manca
Tony Mancini
Kid Marcel
Peter Marklewitz
<i>Carlos Marks</i> (Rated 2/24)
Francisco Martinez Sancho
Lino Mastellaro
Billy McGrandle
Sammy McSpadden
Jim Meilleur
Bruno Melissano
Sergio Milan
Eddie Miller
Billy Moeller
Pedro Molledo
Des Morrison
Dave Needham
Benny Nieuwenhuizen
Earl Nikora
Alvaro Nuvoloni
John O'Brien
Johann Orsolics
Antonio (Toni) Ortiz
Pat Patrick
Luigi Patruno
Enzo Petriglia
Egisto Peyre
Ray Philippe
Billy Rafferty
Des Rea
Ron Redrup
Alan Richardson
Jean Baptiste Rolland
Rene Roque
Giuseppe Ros
Kid Salomon
Rodolfo Sanchez
Joey Santos
Manny Santos
Antonio Sassarini
Federico Scarponi
Rudiger Schmidtke
Hans Dieter Schwartz
Andrea Silanos
John Smillie
Les Smith
Maxie Smith
Tony Smith
Al Sparks
Lothar Stengel
Pat Supple
Maurice Tavant
Leonard Tavarez
Bernie Taylor
Bernie Terrell
Pierre-Claude Thomias
Trevor Thornberry
Domenico Tiberia
Billy Todd
Ron Toohey
Jose Luis Torcida
Jules Touan
Daniel Trioulaire
Giancarlo Usai
Conny Velensek
Daniel Vermandere
Pierre Vetroff
Gordon Wallace
Big Jim West
Jeff White
Hans-Werner Wohlers
Leon Zadourian

Some of these are done. I'll go through the list tonight. I know Lothar Stengel I did and posted here not too long ago (may have posted in the HW or non HW threads)

Rocco

[David Myers]

Thanks, Rocco. It ain't easy finding fighters who have been rated in this forum. The search function stinks. And of course the forum was moved from one host to another.

Cornerwork is the best single resource for created fighters, but the Fighter Pack is the mode of choice over there. And how do you find an individual fighter in the various Packs?

So if you have any of the fighters from the to-do list already in your database please post or repost them here. Or send them to me privately, if you'd prefer.

Mucho thanks.

[David Myers]

I have taken Rocco's subtle advice and been working my way through old New Heavyweight and New Non-HW Fighters Added posts. Here is one that I found.

Jose Manuel Duran, the Spanaird who fought from 1967 to 1978 and held the WBA and EBU junior middleweight crowns, was rated in June 2004 by Mark Elwood. I am reposting him here.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by David Myers

Thanks, Rocco. It ain't easy finding fighters who have been rated in this forum. The search function stinks. And of course the forum was moved from one host to another.

Mucho thanks.

I feel for your frustration I'm sure at times finding out who may have been rated already. I've tried as best as possible to watch this forum as often as possible each day just to see what new pops up because these fighters are scattered around several posts. LIke you said to, you've also got them over at cornerwork which the fighter packs are great in some ways but in other ways you got to watch close what's in them and need to take the time to look through what's in them.

Rocco

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke

I think I've found the fighter that trumps your one Rocco... his name is Reggie Strickland, CW. How this guy gets a license is anyone's guess.

Reggie Strickland

Mark

Wow! How does the guy physically get out there and fight that often?!

Manfred still has Strickland beat though by winning pct. .111 to Stricklands .184!

Rocco

[CONN CHRIS]

My favorite lovable loser was Danny Wofford. How he was able to haul that frame of his out there so often is truely a marvel. (he was pushing 260lbs at the end) He can't match Strickland's productivity, but on a pounds hauled into the ring per year basis, he might be close.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001965

[David Myers]

Another Welsh fighter--a heavyweight--for Chris. Born 1944 in Rhyl, Wales. Fought from 1964 to 1971. Record: 31-12-0 (11).

Welsh heavyweight champion. Defeated by Jack Bodell in October 1969 to fill British heavyweight title vacated by Henry Cooper.

[David Myers]

And a picture of Carl Gizzi, the Welsh heavyweight champion.

[David Myers]

The first pack of European and British Commonwealth fighters has been sent to Gunsmoke for posting at Cornerwork. It contains sixty heavyweights, including every man who fought in an EBU or Commonwealth heavyweight title bout from 1945 to 1975. Also included are a number of other interesting European and Commonwealth heavies from the same era, several of whom were national champs.

This was the easiest pack to complete, primarily because I did almost none of the work! Only seventeen of the 60 boxers were rated by me; the rest were created by Rocco, Mark, Lee, and Tiger Fan. Here is a complete list. Where not indicated otherwise, the fighter was rated by me:

Thörner Åhsman
Santo Amonti
Dennis Avoth
Piermario Baruzzi
Joveci Bau (--LeeSkye)
Enrico Bertola
Ken Brady (--LeeSkye)
Morrie Bush
Benito Canal (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Dante Canè (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Barry Chalker (--LeeSkye)
Alain Cherville (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Rudy Crivic (--LeeSkye)
Raymond Degl'Innocenti
Gawie de Klerk (-- / Rocco Del Sesto)
Franco DePiccoli
Robert Duquesne
Remington Dynaty (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Mariano Echevarria (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Robert Eugene (--Tiger Fan)
Hans Friedrich (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Carl Gizzi
Klaus Peter Gumpert (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Hans Jörgen Jacobsen
Ross Jenkins (--LeeSkye)
Hans Kalbfell (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Wilson Kohlbrecher (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Arno Kolblin (--Mark Elwood)
Kitione Lave (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Bjarne Lingaas (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Danny McAlinden (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Gerry McDermott
Horst Niche
Lars Olov Norling (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Günther Nürnberg
Stephane Olek (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Del Phillips (--Chris )
Johnny Prescott (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Christian Poncelet
Arno Prick (--Mark Elwood)
Isimeli Radrodro (--LeeSkye)
Johnny Ralph
Paul Albert Renet
Guiseppe Ros (--Mark Elwood)
Giulio Saraudi (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Bruno Scarabellin (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Plinio Scarabellin (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Paddy Slavin
Simon Templar
Bernard Thebault (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Roger Tighe
Piero Tomasini (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Lion Ven (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Vittorio Verrengia (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Jo Weiden (--Mark Elwood)
Werner Wiegand (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Allen Williams (--LeeSkye)
Jim Woods (--LeeSkye)
Gerhard Zech (--Rocco Del Sesto)
Steve Zoranich (--LeeSkye)

Thanks to all of the above for rating these "foreign" heavies, and making my work so much easier! Although some of these fighters may be included in other packs at Cornerwork, I thought it made sense to gather them into a single convenient place.

If that offends anyone, please excuse me in advance!

[Rocco Del Sesto]

After his victory over Argirlos, Ackers then lost to Giuseppe Ros in May 1965. A little more then a month later he fought another German HW, Manfred Markgraf. Ackers would loose that fight to Markgraf. Ackers then finished out the year 1965 loosing in repeat fights to both Ros and Markgraf.

Manfred Markgraf Rating 2 Germany
Heayweight 1965-67
9 wins / 2 losses / 1 draw / 2 KO

Birthplace: Berlin, Germany

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Beat Manfred Ackers twice and drew once with him. Also beat Manfred Schlesinger, Roland Graetz, Andre Wyns, Peter Schulze, Valere Mahau, and Emil Svaricek. Lost to a Raimo Nisula and Peter Weiland in his Markgraf's last fight.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

A correction from my last posting. Ackers 2nd fight with Manfred Markgraf in December 1965 ended in a draw in the 4 round bout.

Ackers starts out 1966 with an 8 round decison loss to Danilo Zoratti. Just a bit over a week after that fight on Feb. 4th, he wins his 3rd fight, a 6 round decision over Roland Graetz. Three weeks after that fight Ackers goe up against a new guy we'll meet, Manfred Schneider, another German HW who hands Ackers yet another 4 round decision loss.

Manfred Schneider Rating 3 Germany
Heavyweight 1954-66
12 wins / 3 losses / 3 draws / 5 KO

Birthplace: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Manager: Walter Englert

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Schneider fought from 1954 to 59 then was out of the ring until February 1966 when he came back to fight Manfred Ackers. Schneider won the 4 round decision. He then fought Rudolf Nehring in April that year to a 6 round draw, then hung the gloves up for good. During the main part of his career, one of his losses was to Mario de Persio in 1955 who was making his pro debute. Other opponents were a draw and win against Albert Duscha, a win against Andre Wynes and a 5th round DQ loss to Erwin Hack in his last fight in May 1959 before leaving the ring until 1966.

[jeffbakker]

Reggie Strickland's so-called career is briefly documented in
Jim Brady's "Boxing Confidential".