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Old 01-25-2022, 04:10 PM   #221
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Hey Joe (or anyone else with the knowledge), once the info is gathered in one format or another for a historical minor league schedule, is there a process or tool to turn that into an OOTP schedule file? I mean other than keying it in line by line
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:52 PM   #222
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I convert schedules directly from the newspapers into OOTP format. I don't know if there is an interim step where you transfer that raw data into a different format and then into OOTP format.

Le Grand Orange (LGO) had a bunch of minor-league schedules that he put into his own format and then Outlaw Jim converted those into OOTP schedules. How he did it, though, I have no idea, and Outlaw Jim hasn't been around these boards since April 2020. His schedules are in this thread if you want to see them.

I trust that doesn't answer your question
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Old 01-27-2022, 01:27 PM   #223
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I convert schedules directly from the newspapers into OOTP format. I don't know if there is an interim step where you transfer that raw data into a different format and then into OOTP format.

Le Grand Orange (LGO) had a bunch of minor-league schedules that he put into his own format and then Outlaw Jim converted those into OOTP schedules. How he did it, though, I have no idea, and Outlaw Jim hasn't been around these boards since April 2020.

I trust that doesn't answer your question
Haha I think it might, though, if you are saying that once you have the info, you then simply (somewhat painstakingly) key it into OOTP's schedule format. Yes?

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His schedules are in this thread if you want to see them.
Oh ya, well aware, and have grabbed several historical schedules from this thread. Thanks!

Edit: I thought you were referring to the bunches of schedules that are in the stickied thread. However, I think I now realize you are referring to the fact that there are many other non-OOTP-formatted (yet) schedules that can be plucked from this thread, and then converted to OOTP format by a willing chap, such as myself (as I might be doing for some PCL schedules, perhaps starting with 1931)

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Old 01-27-2022, 06:25 PM   #224
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Haha I think it might, though, if you are saying that once you have the info, you then simply (somewhat painstakingly) key it into OOTP's schedule format. Yes?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. I've developed a "system" over the years that makes the process a bit easier, but a lot still depends on how good the original source material is.

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Edit: I thought you were referring to the bunches of schedules that are in the stickied thread. However, I think I now realize you are referring to the fact that there are many other non-OOTP-formatted (yet) schedules that can be plucked from this thread, and then converted to OOTP format by a willing chap, such as myself (as I might be doing for some PCL schedules, perhaps starting with 1931)
Well, no, I hadn't even thought of that But if you're so inclined, you can take a look at LGO's posts in this thread (posts 133-36). His PCL schedules are in post 135. Outlaw Jim was working on the 1930-76 PCL schedules but he never got around to posting them. He previously said that he'd had some pretty serious health issues, so I'm not optimistic about seeing those schedules.

If there's any particular schedule you want, I can work on it. Old PCL schedules are actually fairly easy to find, although not always in good condition.
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:47 PM   #225
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. I've developed a "system" over the years that makes the process a bit easier, but a lot still depends on how good the original source material is.


Well, no, I hadn't even thought of that But if you're so inclined, you can take a look at LGO's posts in this thread (posts 133-36). His PCL schedules are in post 135. Outlaw Jim was working on the 1930-76 PCL schedules but he never got around to posting them. He previously said that he'd had some pretty serious health issues, so I'm not optimistic about seeing those schedules.

If there's any particular schedule you want, I can work on it. Old PCL schedules are actually fairly easy to find, although not always in good condition.
Would you need to find old PCL schedules that are "not always in good condition" if they are already provided (although not in OOTP format) in LGO's or Outlaw Jim's files? Or am I misunderstanding something?

At any rate, I had been cobbling info together, starting with the PCL 1931 schedule, by going through day to day old newspapers (also with the goal of finding PCL player transactions). But then I saw LGO's stuff, so I guess I can work on some from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's... over time of course. If you want to pick any of those off, that'd be great!
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Would you need to find old PCL schedules that are "not always in good condition" if they are already provided (although not in OOTP format) in LGO's or Outlaw Jim's files? Or am I misunderstanding something?

At any rate, I had been cobbling info together, starting with the PCL 1931 schedule, by going through day to day old newspapers (also with the goal of finding PCL player transactions). But then I saw LGO's stuff, so I guess I can work on some from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's... over time of course. If you want to pick any of those off, that'd be great!
Most of the PCL schedules are available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8lk/edit#gid=0
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Old 01-27-2022, 11:51 PM   #227
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Would you need to find old PCL schedules that are "not always in good condition" if they are already provided (although not in OOTP format) in LGO's or Outlaw Jim's files? Or am I misunderstanding something?
You asked specifically about the 1931 PCL schedule. As far as I'm aware, Outlaw Jim never got around to that one. If it's in LGO's files, then that's as equally accessible to you as it is to me. Have at it! If you're looking for something that's not in their collections, then you can always come to me.
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Most of the PCL schedules are available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...8lk/edit#gid=0
Thanks again for doing that detective work - it has definitely saved me a bunch of time in searching for old schedules. The one catch is that many of them are found in Newspapers.com, which, I believe, is blocked to non-subscribers. Of course, SABR members get access with their membership (a perk that, along with access to Paper of Record, is worth the price of the membership, if you ask me).
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Thanks again for doing that detective work - it has definitely saved me a bunch of time in searching for old schedules. The one catch is that many of them are found in Newspapers.com, which, I believe, is blocked to non-subscribers. Of course, SABR members get access with their membership (a perk that, along with access to Paper of Record, is worth the price of the membership, if you ask me).
The clippings (which the links go to) should be available to non subscribers. At least that's my impression. They can be downloaded as PDFs and enlarged as much as needed.

The SABR access is a great added benefit, but it doesn't include all the papers, just the "World Collection" which is a little more than about half the total, so papers from some of the class C & D leagues and any schedules in them, probably aren't included.
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Old 02-01-2022, 07:44 AM   #230
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You asked specifically about the 1931 PCL schedule. As far as I'm aware, Outlaw Jim never got around to that one. If it's in LGO's files, then that's as equally accessible to you as it is to me. Have at it! If you're looking for something that's not in their collections, then you can always come to me.
Yep, I'm working on the 1931 PCL schedule. In looking at your info for the 1930 schedule, specifically the start times of games...

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1930 PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE

Weekday games start at 3:00. Saturday games start at 1:00. Double-header games start at noon and 3:00, except for the first games of Sacramento's Sunday double-headers which start at 10:00 a.m. These games were held at Stockton, about 50 miles south of Sacramento.
... I'm assuming those start times are not historical per se, but are based upon what you settled upon as expressed in this thread's initial post.

For 1931, I have the start times for nearly all games played at Wrigley Field in LA (so these would be the home games for the Angels and Stars). I don't know if those were standard start times throughout the league, or just in LA. My hunch is that they were standard for some of the other teams, but not all. At any rate, here's what I have for Wrigley games, and what I'm choosing to go with league-wide:

Weekday & Saturday afternoon games: 2:15 pm start time at Wrigley; using using 2 pm for the entire league (including Wrigley)
Weeknight & Saturday night games: 8:15 pm start thru 5/16/31, 8:30 pm start after 5/16/31; using 8 pm for the league
Saturday & Sunday doubleheaders: 1:30 pm for first game, with 2nd game start time not specified; using 1:30 pm for first game, 4 pm for 2nd game for the league

In addition, night games became the standard for weeknights & Saturdays as follows:

Hollywood - first night game was on 5/7/31 (originally scheduled for 5/5 but changed several days prior)
LA - first night game was 5/12
Mission - 5/5
Oakland - 5/6
Portland - 5/26 (continued to play some weekday games in the afternoon thru mid-June)
Sacramento - 5/12
San Fran - 4/24 (continued to play some day games thru the end of April)
Seattle - 5/26

The difference in when teams started playing games at night is partially due to some teams being on the road. For example, it's highly likely that LA and Hwd were ready to begin home night games at the same time. But LA was on the road at that time so their first home night game was the following week.

Night games became the standard for all home teams after their initial night game (as per above), but of course there were exceptions and for the most part I'm able to identify those.

LGO's 1931 PCL schedule (the data is not in OOTP schedule format) indicates that all games were played during the day (except for a some - the Sacramento team's games played at Stockton - that were indicated as morning games; he has no night games indicated. My hunch is that his source indicated all games as being day games because at the time of publishing the schedule, it was not known when each team would begin hosting night games, that it would be determined by each team at a later day, and likely influenced by weather.

Finally, the season was a split-season format schedule, but that was not announced until 7/1/31, with the first half ending on Sunday 7/5/31 (with the teams playing an average of 89 or 90 games. However, OOTP will decide when to split the schedule; probably after 94 games (of a 187-schedule).

So based upon all of the above - including the fact that some details of the schedule weren't finalized until the season was underway - will make this some sort of hybrid between an "as scheduled" (dates) schedule and and "as played" (times) one.

If you have any suggestions, etc., before I finalize the file, please let me know
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Old 02-01-2022, 10:34 PM   #231
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Yep, I'm working on the 1931 PCL schedule. In looking at your info for the 1930 schedule, specifically the start times of games...
Fantastic! Make sure you post your schedule here when you're finished.

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... I'm assuming those start times are not historical per se, but are based upon what you settled upon as expressed in this thread's initial post.
Yeah. 3:00 was a pretty common start time for baseball games, especially at the major-league level and especially in the era before night baseball. As more and more teams installed lights, however, the start times for day games actually moved up, so that teams that might have started at 3:00 in the 1920s were starting at 2:00 or even earlier by the 1950s. When I was a kid, for instance, everyone knew that Cubs games started at 1:20.

I'm not sure why that happened. The 3:00 start time was to accommodate white-collar workers, whose workdays often ended at 3:00 during the summer. During the McGraw era, NY Giants used to start their games at 4:00 - the rationale being that workers in the financial district who got out of work at 3:00 would have to take the subway to the Polo Grounds, which was at the northern end of Manhattan (you can take a look at this thread for more information on that). I can only guess that ballclubs stopped trying to grab the after-work crowd and started looking at the after-school crowd as a way to boost attendance. Of course, as Lee Elia pointed out, the only adults who could regularly attend Cubs day games were the chronically unemployed (although he put it in a much more colorful way).

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LGO's 1931 PCL schedule (the data is not in OOTP schedule format) indicates that all games were played during the day (except for a some - the Sacramento team's games played at Stockton - that were indicated as morning games; he has no night games indicated. My hunch is that his source indicated all games as being day games because at the time of publishing the schedule, it was not known when each team would begin hosting night games, that it would be determined by each team at a later day, and likely influenced by weather.
I think that's correct. 1930/1931 represents the break between all day games and the introduction of lights in minor-league baseball, and that transition happened fast. It's like there were maybe a few clubs that had lights mounted on trucks in 1930 and then in 1931 practically everyone had permanent lights installed. And since it was largely up to each individual club to decide when they'd have night games, that information wasn't always included in the schedules printed in the pre-season.

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If you have any suggestions, etc., before I finalize the file, please let me know
Sounds great! I look forward to the finished product.
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1931 PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE

Teams:
Hollywood Stars
Los Angeles Angels
Mission (San Francisco) Reds
Oakland Oaks
Portland Beavers
Sacramento Senators
San Francisco Seals
Seattle Indians

Schedule Characteristics:

SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G187_T8_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="187" start_month="4" start_day="7" start_day_of_week="3"

Each team plays 187 games. Teams play between 92 and 95 home/away games, and teams play each other between 24 and 30 times during the season.
Season starts on April 7th and ends on October 4th. Teams typically play every day, Tuesday through Sunday (with doubleheaders on Sundays).

The PCL had a split schedule in 1931, however, this wasn't decided until the week before the split occured. The first half of the season ended after the games on July 6th.
OOTP will split the schedule after games of Tuesday, July 7th, which (if no rainouts) is after each team has played 93 games.

-No games scheduled on Mondays (typically a travel day) except for doubleheaders on Labor Day, Sept 7th.
-Double-headers on Sundays and holidays - Memorial Day (5/30), Independence Day (7/4), Labor Day (9/7), and Admission Day (9/9).
-Weekday afternoon and Saturday afternoon games typically start at 1:30 pm or 2:00 pm. Double-header games start at 1:30 pm noon and 4:00 pm.
-Weekday evening and Saturday evening games typically start at 8pm.

Sacramento scheduled to host games - primarily on Sundays - at Stockton on 4/12, 4/19, 5/17, 5/24, 6/14, 7/4, 7/5, 7/12, 7/19, 8/16, 9/6, 9/7, 9/9, 9/13, 9/20, 10/4 (Morning games of a doubleheaders, with the 2nd game to be played in Sacramento in the afternoon.)
Note, however, that Stockton's park suffered significant fire damage on 6/13. Therefore Sacramento did not play games in Stockton in June, July or August, but returned to Stockton on 9/6.

Notes on start times:
1) Actual start times for most teams not known; times (above) are based upon start times used at Wrigley Field for games hosted by Stars and Angels. Day vs Night games are fairly accurate, though, based upon newspaper accounts.
2) All teams started the season with weekday afternoon games being the norm. However, the plan was to switch primarily to night games as soon as possible. Each team's first hosted night games were as follows (and reflected in this schedule file):

HWD - 5/7
LAL - 5/12
MIS - 5/5
OAK - 5/6
POR - 5/26
SAC - 5/12
SFO - 4/24
SEA - 5/26

NOTE: To get correct time zone & start times to appear in OOTP, it may be needed to edit Mission's city to San Francisco (and not Mission, Texas) and Hollywood's city to Los Angeles (and not Hollywood, Florida).

As info-only, the schedule for the PCL championship series was as follows:

Tue 10/6: HWD @ SFS, night
Wed 10/7: HWD @ SFS, night
Thu 10/8: HWD @ SFS, night
Fri 10/9: travel-by-train (HWD departed in the morning, SFS departed in the evening)
Sat 10/10: SFS @ HWD, 8 pm
*Sun 10/11: SFS @ HWD, probably 1:30 pm
*Mon 10/12: SFS @ HWD, probably 8 pm or 8:15 pm
*Tue 10/13: SFS @ HWD, probably 8 pm or 8:15 pm

*games were not necessary due to HWD's 4-game sweep
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Fantastic stuff! And really impressive research. Thanks for posting that, thehef.
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Fantastic stuff! And really impressive research. Thanks for posting that, thehef.
Thanks, YW! Hopefully it won't be too long before I can get to more PCL, like 1932, 1933, '34, etc...
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It'll reset the standings (keep the 1st half standings somewhere so they can be viewed?)... Once you start the 2nd half of the split-season, on the Standings panel the standings will continue to reflect the cumulative standings, but this can be changed via the dropdown in the vicinity of the top left of the panel, where you can choose Overall, First Half, or Second Half standings. Beneath the main standings the team & record of the 1st half winner will be shown, and beneath that the team & record of the 2nd half leader.
That finally got added? I remember bugging Markus and crew about that for years. It must have gotten added during my sabbatical from OOTP.

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I suppose for a split-season schedule, the OOTP schedule file should include a line entry that tells the game when to split the schedule. Something like this:

<GAME day="90" time="1500" away="6" home="3"/>
<GAME day="90" time="1500" away="4" home="1"/>
<SPLIT>
<GAME day="92" time="1500" away="1" home="6"/>
<GAME day="92" time="1500" away="5" home="7"/>

And, in the absence of a "SPLIT" indicator OOTP could simply then split the season at the halfway mark, as it does now.
That's a simple, great way of doing it.

I was thinking of adding a "first_half_close" and "second_half_open" date entries in the header of the schedule file.
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1953 BIG STATE LEAGUE

Teams:

Austin Pioneers
Longview
Paris Indians
Temple Eagles
Texarkana Bears
Tyler East Texans
Waco Pirates
Wichita Falls Spudders

All teams located in TX

Schedule Characteristics:

<SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G147_T8_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="147" start_month="4" start_day="14" start_day_of_week="3">

Season starts on April 14 and ends on September 7. Teams play 73 or 74 home games. Teams play each opponent 21 times. Weekday and Saturday games start at 7:00. Sunday games start at 1:00. Holiday (Independence Day, Labor Day) double-headers start at noon and 3:00.

Baseball Reference shows Waco and Longview as sharing a Pirates affiliate and Greenville/Bryan having a team called the "Majors." This schedule is based on the one printed in The Sporting News prior to the season, so some rearrangement might have occurred.

No off-days for this Class B league except for July 17-18, which was the league's all-star break. The circuit could have avoided the odd number of games by simply scheduling double-headers for Memorial Day, but that didn't seem to occur to anyone.

Big State 1953.lsdl


For those of you who absolutely must have an even number of games, I've modded the schedule by using the two off days to add a game for each club.

<SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G148_T8_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="148" start_month="4" start_day="14" start_day_of_week="3">

Teams play 148 games. Teams play 74 home games and play each opponent 21 or 22 times.

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1903 PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE

This was the inaugural season of the PCL - essentially a rebranding and expansion of the California League - with the Los Angeles, Sacramento, Oakland, and San Francisco franchise being joined by Portland from the Pacific National League, and Seattle as a new franchise.

Teams:
Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Oaks
Portland Browns
Sacramento Senators
San Francisco Seals
Seattle Siwashes

Schedule Characteristics:
SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G241_T6_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="241" start_month="3" start_day="26" start_on_weekday="5"

Teams play between 223 and 241 games. The 1903 PCL schedule was wildly unbalanced, as teams played each other between 25 and 58 times. Why LA & Sacramento were scheduled to play just 25 times, while nearly all other matchups were between 40 and 58 games, I have no idea.

The season starts on March 26th and ends on November 29th.

While this file was partially sourced from the file that SandMan posted in post #50 of this thread, it was primarily sourced from the schedule printed in the 2/15/1903 LA Times and from research found in the Los Angeles Herald and San Francisco Call. (See Note A below for summary of differences between this file and SandMan's.)

The 1903 PCL schedule can be summarized as follows:
  • Series' typically began on Tuesday and ran through Sunday.
  • Monday was typically a travel day.
  • Some series' started on Wednesday instead of Tuesday due to travel. (Train travel from the north - Portland and especially Seattle - to California cities was often not possible in just one travel day).
  • Only Oakland and San Francisco routinely hosted Sunday doubleheaders. Those would typically be played as a morning game in Oakland and a road game in San Francisco. (See Note B below for more info.)
  • For all series' in the Bay Area, regardless if the home team was Oakland or San Francisco, the Tuesday game would be played in Oakland and the Wednesday-thru-Saturday games would be played in San Francisco. (See Note B below for more info.)
  • Given the above, most non-Bay Area series' were six games, unless both Monday and Tuesday were needed for travel, in which case the series would be five games; Bay Area series' were typically seven games.
  • Probably due to both weather and travel considerations, Portland and Seattle played the first and last months of the season on the road.
Holiday doubleheaders were as follows:
  • Decoration Day, Saturday, 5/30/1903
  • Independence Day, Saturday, 7/4/1903
  • Labor Day, Monday, 9/7/1903
  • Thanksgiving, 11/26/1903
  • Doubleheaders on (California) Admissions Day (Sept 9th) would become a regular event on future PCL schedules, but were not on the 1903 schedule.
Start times follow these general rules:
  • Weekday games begin at 3 pm, except:
    • For games in LA from mid-June through end of September, games begin at 4 pm*
    • For games in SF & Oak from July through mid-Sept, games begin at at 3:30 pm*
    • *These start times are simply to add some real-life-like variance to the scheduled start times
  • Weekend single games begin at 1 pm
  • Bay Area doubleheaders are split between Oakland (10 am) and then a quick trip to San Francisco (3 pm)
  • Non Bay Area doubleheaders generally begin at noon and 3 pm
No postseason games were played.

Finally, this schedule is neither the "original" schedule nor should it be considered "as played" (it does not account for rainouts). Since minor league schedules of this era were always works in progress, so-called "original" schedules were more of "initial drafts" and not just "subject to change" but expected to change. Therefore, while others may see it differently, I consider the type of schedule in this post to be the more-accurate & more-realistic type of schedule for use in OOTP. IOW, it evolved as the intended schedule.

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Add'l notes for those who feel the above wasn't long enough

NOTE A - SandMan's file vs the attached file
It's important to note that SandMan's work was solid, and no criticism is intended. It's just that it was based on a published schedule that turned out to not be as accurate as the published one I used for the attached file. What's interesting is that SandMan's schedule was based on LGO's schedule file that was sourced from The Sporting News, 3/7/1903; whereas the actual schedule that played out was much closer to the schedule that was printed in the 2/15/1903 LA Times. Why TSN would have a less-accurate schedule at a later date (compared to LAT), I have no idea.

Differences/changes, etc.:
  • SandMan's file had all non-doubleheader day games starting at 1 pm. While actual start times varied and aren't completely known, the attached file corrects this to where games started later in the day, when fans could attend after work (see Start Times above).
  • Numerous Bay Area doubleheaders were not included in SandMan's schedule but were on the original schedule printed in the 2/15/1903 LA Times, which closely matched games actually played. Nearly all of these doubleheaders were morning games (10 am) in Oakland, followed by an afternoon game (3 pm) in San Francisco
  • Added doubleheader games on Thanksgiving (11/26/1903) for Oakland vs San Francisco, and Portland at Sacramento; (Seattle at LA was on the original schedule). Also added a few other late-season doubleheaders that were played in real life. While these were not on the original schedule, it's presumed they were scheduled well in advance and were not the type of "as played" changes that typically result from rainouts, etc.
  • Cleaned up other issues, such as many Tuesday games that were not on the original schedule and were not played in real life, but were included in SandMan's schedule for some reason. (Many of these were games that could not have been played due to the travel required; for example, it would not have been possible to play in Seattle on Sunday, and then make it to Los Angeles for a game on Tuesday).

NOTE B - Bay Area Doubleheaders / Home Team Designation
  • Since OOTP schedule file formatting doesn't allow for games being played at locations other than at the home team's park, Oakland or San Francisco - whichever team is hosting the series - is designated as the home team for both the morning and afternoon game of doubleheaders. However, when the two combatants are Oakland and San Francisco, Oakland is the home team for the morning game and San Francisco is the home team for the afternoon game.
  • As with the Sunday Bay Area doubleheaders, since OOTP schedule formatting doesn't allow for games being played at locations other than at the home team's park, Oakland is the home team for all of its "home" games, not just the Tuesday games, and San Francisco is the home team for all of its home games. However, when Oakland and San Francisco are the two combatants, Oakland is the home team for Tuesday games. For Wednesday-thru-Saturday games, the home team is whichever team is designated - per the schedule - as the home team in the source schedule file (otherwise Oakland would end up with too few home games and San Franscisco would end up with too many home games).
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As a quick aside regarding earlier PCL schedules, from what I remember looking at them, teams sometimes weren't even scheduled to play the same number of games.
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As a quick aside regarding earlier PCL schedules, from what I remember looking at them, teams sometimes weren't even scheduled to play the same number of games.
For the PCL at least, this was probably true through at least the 1910's...
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1901 CALIFORNIA LEAGUE

This was either the third or fourth - and penultimate - season of this iteration of the California League. (Some sources consider this California League to have begun with the 1899 season, while others trace its origins to a merger of two 1898 start-up leagues - the Pacific States League and the California League, which briefly resulted in the league renaming itself the "Pacific Coast League" before it reverted to the more-traditional "California League.")

Teams:
Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Commuters
Sacramento Senators
San Francisco Wasps

Schedule Characteristics:
SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G169_T4_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="169" start_month="3" start_day="31" start_on_weekday="1"

This schedule is primarily based upon the schedule printed in the 4/6/1901 edition of The Sporting Life, and also based upon research in a the Los Angeles Herald and San Francisco Call.

Teams play between 156 and 169 games:
LA 158 (76h, 82r)
Oak 167 (96h, 71r)
Sac 156 (69h, 87r)
SF 169 (84h, 85r)

Teams play each other 55-57 times, except LA/Sac play each other just 45 times.
Season starts on March 31st and ends on December 1st. Series' run Thursday through Sunday, with doubleheaders in the Bay Area on Sundays (morning game in Oakland, afternoon game in San Francisco).
(Note that Since OOTP schedule file formatting doesn't allow for games being played at locations other than at the home team's park, Oakland or San Francisco - whichever team is hosting the series - is designated as the home team for both the morning and afternoon game of doubleheaders. However, when the matchup includes both Oakland and San Francisco, Oakland is the home team for the morning game and San Francisco is the home team for the afternoon game.)
  • No games on Mondays except for single games on Labor Day, Sept 2nd; (California) Admissions Day, Sept 9th; and on October 7th (not sure why teams played on this particular Monday; it's possible that the SF/Sac game was a makeup for the postponement of their game on 9/19, the date of President McKinley's funeral. However, LA/Oak also played on Oct 7th, but their postponed 9/19 game was made up the following Monday, 9/23).
  • No games on Tuesdays or Wednesdays
  • Doubleheaders on all Sundays for Bay Area (Oak/SF), except opening day, which was a single game
  • Doubleheader on Independence Day, July 4th for LA @ SF (single game for Oak @ Sac)
  • Single games on Decoration Day, May 30th
  • Doubleheader on Sunday, Nov 24th for Sac @ LA (not sure, may have been to make up for a previous rainout, or because LA & Sac played fewer games against each other than the rest of the league's matchups)
  • Doubleheader on Thanksgiving, Nov 28th for SF @ LA (single game for Sac @ Oak)

Start Times
Actual start times not known, although start times for games in LA are generally known. For this schedule file:
  • Weekday & Saturday games generally start at 3 pm
  • Single Sunday games start at 2 pm, except in LA where most start at 2:30 pm (a few start at 2:15 pm)
  • Doubleheader games in LA start at 10:30 am and 2:30 pm
  • Doubleheaders in Bay Area start at 10 am at Oakland and 3 pm at San Francisco
No postseason games were played. However, the day after the regular season Los Angeles hosted San Francisco in game played to benefit a gravely ill person named Fred Truett... In addition, ten days later LA hosted a team of NL all-stars for a series of four games, which they split two games apiece.

Update Notes & Alternate File
  • The primary attached file has been updated since the original posting to include more (semi-)accurate start times (primarily for games in LA), a Sept swapping of road trips for Sac & Oak of games at LA & SF, and a few other minor corrections/updates.
  • The primary attached file does not include the postponements of games on 9/19 due to President McKinley's funeral. IOW, this file will include those games as originally scheduled (Oak at LA was rescheduled & played on 9/23; I wasn't able to determine if/when Sac @ SF was rescheduled)
  • The primary attached file can only be used if you start your OOTP game prior to the 1901 season. This is because the schedule starts on 3/31/1901, but if you create your game beginning with the 1901 season OOTP will start the game on 4/17/1901. However...
  • The alternate file below keeps the spirit of the original schedule but begins with a 4/19/1901 start date, and thus can be used if you start your game with the 1901 season. This ALT schedule still ends on 12/1/1901 and maintains the original number of games; the games that were originally scheduled from 3/31 through 4/18 have been redistributed, mostly to Wednesdays (a few to Mondays).
Schedule Characteristics for Alternate File:
SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGY_G169_T4_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="1" games_per_team="169" start_month="4" start_day="19" start_on_weekday="6">
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File Type: lsdl California League 1901ALT.lsdl (15.9 KB, 130 views)

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