2010 New York Yankees Official Thread

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Hehe, so much for our week outfield... LOVE GARDNER!

Just to clarify, I never said we had a weak outfield. Our "discussion" revolved around whether or not Crawford would look good out there with Gardner and Granderson. I've always been a huge fan of Gardner and I'm tickled pink that he's catching on.

[1998 Yankees]

We go 10-5 against three tough NL teams (and two crummy ones), then the 31-44 Seattle Mariners come into town and the Yankees look like they are sleepwalking!

Another pet peeve. Whoever is behind these young pitcher "rules" better knock it off! Apparently the long layoff Hughes had to save him innings this season affected his rhythm, hence his poor performance yesterday. Or, maybe not. But still, Hughes himself is looking forward to "getting back to normal" in the rotation. That says something, I think.

[yankeesrule]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

We go 10-5 against three tough NL teams (and two crummy ones), then the 31-44 Seattle Mariners come into town and the Yankees look like they are sleepwalking!

Another pet peeve. Whoever is behind these young pitcher "rules" better knock it off! Apparently the long layoff Hughes had to save him innings this season affected his rhythm, hence his poor performance yesterday. Or, maybe not. But still, Hughes himself is looking forward to "getting back to normal" in the rotation. That says something, I think.

agreed, joba never looked the same after they started jerking him around last year. hopefully they dont do the same with hughes

[1998 Yankees]

VIDEO:

How Mariano Rivera Dominates Hitters

The closer has confounded hitters with mostly one pitch: his signature cutter.

How Mariano Rivera Dominates Hitters - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com

Good video quality, very informative.

[1998 Yankees]

As the first pick [of the 1992 draft, by the Houston Astros], [Phil] Nevin was sure to be scrutinized against the rest of his class. And five picks later the Yankees took a high school shortstop from Kalamazoo, Mich., named Derek Jeter. The others chosen before Jeter were, in order, pitcher Paul Shuey, by the Cleveland Indians; pitcher B. J. Wallace, by the Montreal Expos; outfielder Jeffrey Hammonds, by the Baltimore Orioles; and outfielder Chad Mottola, by the Cincinnati Reds...

Five teams thought they had the answer. Five teams were wrong. And five former players, scattered across the country, can always say they were drafted ahead of Jeter, before the world knew the Yankees’ secret.

Part of it is available signing money, part is scouting skill, part is short to near-term position needs and conflicts, and part is pure luck. Given all that, can you imagine if the Astros, Indians, Expos, Orioles, or Reds had picked Jeter ahead of the Yankees?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/sp...l/06jeter.html

[yankeesrule]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Part of it is available signing money, part is scouting skill, part is short to near-term position needs and conflicts, and part is pure luck. Given all that, can you imagine if the Astros, Indians, Expos, Orioles, or Reds had picked Jeter ahead of the Yankees?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/sp...l/06jeter.html

thankfully, not something we haveto worry about

[1998 Yankees]

Look for the Yankees to make a move for sure, now that Petitte looks like he's headed for the DL with a groin pull. CC is now the only pitcher who really is reliable, maybe Hughes if the Yankees leave his rhythm and head alone. Burnett and Vazquez are hit or miss (no pun intended). This is not good.






Joba? (Who knows what he is anymore, starter or reliever?)

[mlyons]

Zach McCallister's having a decent season at Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. I could see calling him up for a few starts, seeing if he's ready for the big-time.

[yankeesrule]

maybe give mitre another shot at starting.

leave joba alone though, keep him in the pen to get his head straight. bouncing him between the rotation and pen will just mess with him. especially if he starts, has a few good starts, and then the other starters get healthy. then putting him back in the pen just messes with him some more.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by mlyons

Zach McCallister's having a decent season at Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. I could see calling him up for a few starts, seeing if he's ready for the big-time.

Well, if you call this record decent. Doesn't excite me all that much - I'd call it mediocre. I'd be more interested in the second guy:

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by yankeesrule

maybe give mitre another shot at starting.

leave joba alone though, keep him in the pen to get his head straight. bouncing him between the rotation and pen will just mess with him. especially if he starts, has a few good starts, and then the other starters get healthy. then putting him back in the pen just messes with him some more.

Agree, about Joba, that is. Watch the Yankees screw him up some more, though.

[mlyons]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Well, if you call this record decent. Doesn't excite me all that much - I'd call it mediocre. I'd be more interested in the second guy:

McCallister's the more highly regarded prospect and at that level, I mostly look at the secondary numbers, since defense and parks are so variable. It looks to me like he's had some bad luck that has inflated his ERA -- he's got excellent control, though, which is usually the biggest problem young pitchers have when they hit the majors. Nova's the opposite -- not as highly regarded to start with and with a somewhat lucky ERA. I wouldn't mind calling him up, either, though. It's better than trading away one or both of them for some veteran rental.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by mlyons

McCallister's the more highly regarded prospect and at that level, I mostly look at the secondary numbers, since defense and parks are so variable. It looks to me like he's had some bad luck that has inflated his ERA -- he's got excellent control, though, which is usually the biggest problem young pitchers have when they hit the majors. Nova's the opposite -- not as highly regarded to start with and with a somewhat lucky ERA. I wouldn't mind calling him up, either, though. It's better than trading away one or both of them for some veteran rental.

I agree with you on that last point, for sure. That's always been my stance; for example, the Cliff Lee thing would have been great only if they re-signed him. I dunno - that's like putting myself in handcuffs if I am Cashman. Better sign him to avoid looking bad so pay him whatever he wants.

Originally Posted by yankeesrule

maybe give mitre another shot at starting.

You called it, yr:

[1998 Yankees]

Ralph Houk was the manager in my earliest years of Yankees fanhood. He was a man's man, as I have read and heard about him. RIP, Major.

[1998 Yankees]

During a rain delay, YES is showing highlight clips of Teixeira's glove work - some really nifty plays. My gosh, what an improvement at 1B since he came here!

I recall two discussions: Giambi being better with the bat when he played the field rather than DH'ing, and Posada should have been taught to play first base late in his career in order to extend his productive offensive years. Both arguments ignored the value of first base defense! What nonsense!

Well, all right, not nonsense; both arguments had some merit at the time if one did ignore the defense aspect. Still, forget his bat for a moment - do we have any idea of how many games Teixeira has won for the Yankees with his glove? No way 1B should ever be a dumping/training ground for guys who can't play anywhere else, especially in a league with the DH.

[1998 Yankees]

This is what I was saying about these pitching "rules" being overkill. This is Phil Hughes commenting on his doing better after returning to his regular starting rotation:

“Hopefully, I’ll stay on track for a while now,” said Hughes, who improved his record to 12-3 and was removed after a rain delay of 2 hours 32 minutes. “I never want to make excuses, but you’re kind of built to throw on five days. That’s what starting pitchers do.”

Some of this is hindsight, of course, but I still believe "rules" limiting innings pitched mess with decades of baseball wisdom. Pitchers have flourished and teams have won by having a regular starting pitcher rotation. Pitchers get into a rhythm and groove and don't like disruptions and long layoffs. Taking them out of that rhythm and groove messes with their heads while supposedly saving their arms, an unproven benefit I might add.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/sp...ntent=My+Yahoo

[yankeesrule]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

This is what I was saying about these pitching "rules" being overkill. This is Phil Hughes commenting on his doing better after returning to his regular starting rotation:



Some of this is hindsight, of course, but I still believe "rules" limiting innings pitched mess with decades of baseball wisdom. Pitchers have flourished and teams have won by having a regular starting pitcher rotation. Pitchers get into a rhythm and groove and don't like disruptions and long layoffs. Taking them out of that rhythm and groove messes with their heads while supposedly saving their arms, an unproven benefit I might add.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/sp...ntent=My+Yahoo

Agree on the "rules" messing with pitchers. Joba got into a nice groove in the second half and then they started having him skip turns in the rotation, pitch on long rest, whatever and he was never the same. It took him getting back to the pen for a few weeks to get his head together.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by yankeesrule

It took him getting back to the pen for a few weeks to get his head together.

Might be too late:

Two Calls to Bullpen, but None for Chamberlain
CLEVELAND — The first time Manager Joe Girardi needed a reliever to preserve a one-run lead in the eighth inning, he called on Dave Robertson. Ever since that night in Boston, the second game of the season, the eighth inning has been the domain of Joba Chamberlain. It does not appear to be that way anymore, with Chamberlain never warming up as Robertson, and then Boone Logan, combined to record three pivotal outs Monday night in the Yankees’ 3-2 comeback victory over the Cleveland Indians.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/sp...27yankees.html

The idea of trading Chamberlain before his value disappears altogether is bound to be occurring to some people.

[1998 Yankees]

I'm hearing/reading "Robinson Cano" and "MVP" in the same breath/sentence these days. That was one hell of a shot, that game-winning HR he hit tonight.

[English_Ray]

I'm developing a kind of irrational hatred for Robinson Cano and Nick Swisher. I mean, seriously, Swisher has hit about two dozen homers against the Rays, and Cano is batting like .900 or something... doesn't seem fair really!