What names would you like to see in OOTP:BM? - Page 12

RBLwebguy · 01-21-2006, 08:42 PM

Steve;

Send me a copy of your Scottish last name file. I have one with approx 340 names, I can merge them for you.

redmarkYankees · 01-21-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dougaiton

If it's any help, ICC2005 (a cricket sim) has name files with some 70-120 surnames for Indian and Pakistani batsmen, as well as Zimbabwean and South African surnames (being very different to American surnames). They are pretty sparse but would make a nice starting point.

One thing I was thinking about was that FM (and thus SI) must have a huge databank of 'names'? Has Marc Duffy said anything about getting access to these?

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Originally Posted by battists

I'm already in touch with Marc about potentially getting access to the FM names data, but no results yet. Good suggestion though.

Is ICC2005 a SI product? Thanks for that lead. I am trying to get as many nationalities as possible represented, so I may try to track those down.

Just FYI, if I can't get a decent set of data for a given nationality (like, say, Pakistani), I'll probably exclude them, since no one wants a league with a hundred identical player names.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/co...yer/index.html

Every international cricketer (and cricket official) ever, from every cricket playing nation; 70+ years for India, 50+ years for Pakistan. Also South Africa (Boer names mainly), West Indies, etc. as well as smaller quantities for Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and a few African nations, etc.

Will take a little work to pull the names together and obviously it includes every player, so lots of repeats of the more common names, but that can be used to give frequencies. Also, about 20% of the players appear to only have a first initial, but the surnames can be used.

I'll tinker with it over the next couple of days if there's an interest.

RBLwebguy · 01-21-2006, 10:54 PM

Scottish list sent, went from 100 to 430 names!

I also have an extensive Irish Last name set, which we can talk about on AIM.

I am still working on Africa.

Malleus Dei · 01-22-2006, 01:08 AM

Ex Africa semper aliquid novi.

battists · 01-22-2006, 04:29 PM

Hey folks, anyone know a Korean native who could help out with some checking? I'm very confident in our Korean last names - they came from the Republic of Korea government.

I've cobbled together a long list of potential Korean given names. (In Korea, given names are practically unique, so we need a large pool of names for realism's sake!) However, I have very low confidence that these names are:

a. Actually legitimate possible Korean male given names
b. Are written consistently in terms of the romanization (we're using McCune-Reischauer for the last names)

Anyway, the list of Korean given names is here:

Korean First Names

Anyone who has knowledge of Korean, or knows someone who might help out, please let me know!

RBLwebguy · 01-23-2006, 10:57 PM

Yes Steve, I finally delivered African name set (Approx 1500 last names, and 830 first). I will try and get more before the final release.

Canadian first name set next!

Long_Long_Name · 01-23-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

Canadian first name set next!

Where did you find it?

Also... is it pan-Canada? Steve and I decided to split the Canadian set between French and English, given that they are quite distinctive, so if they are combined in yours, well, they lose some accuracy, and we'd end up with 44% of French names instead of 25% (well, roughly).

andjbock · 01-24-2006, 03:31 PM

This is table of Hanja as published by the Korean Government. The idea is to take two characters and make one name from them. If you can translate it, run a program that makes all possible combinations, your golden.

http://goldname.net/cgi-bin/name_hanza2.htm

battists · 01-24-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andjbock

This is table of Hanja as published by the Korean Government. The idea is to take two characters and make one name from them. If you can translate it, run a program that makes all possible combinations, your golden.

http://goldname.net/cgi-bin/name_hanza2.htm

Thanks, that's excellent.

I can probably handle the possible combinations, but the translating bit...

ortonius · 01-24-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

A quick update on this. Just by taking material from names files created by fans for OOTP 6 and earlier versions, we have at least a rough start for the following languages/nationalities:

English
Latin American / Spanish
Japanese
German
French
Italian
Finnish
Swedish
Russian
Czech
Polish
Scottish
Arabic
Irish

I'm also trying to figure out how to work these in:

Fantasy/Tolkein
Scandinavian/Viking

Waiting for Bobble's Hobbit files to show up in my in-box.

Some key nationalities I'm missing so far include:

Korean
Chinese/other Asian
Norwegian
Danish
Dutch
Portuguese
Brazilian
Greek
Anything in Africa

Please let me know if you have any leads on these.

Incidentally, my goal is to make distinct data by country, and not by language. In other words, I'd love to separate U.S. English, U.K. English, Australian, etc. Similarly, there should be different values for Latin American versus Spanish names, and so on. However, this may not end up being practical, for time or resource reasons. Still, I'll do my best! If it ends up being impossible, we'll just have one large data set for Spanish, English, Arabic, etc.

The data right now is not very clean, and I suspect a large number of duplicates. However, right now there are about 40,000 unique last names and 8,000 unique first names in the data set. This is about twice the number of names in the original OOTP.

This RULES!!! I guarantee you that Drizzt Do'Urden is a SS.

Malleus Dei · 01-24-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ortonius

This RULES!!! I guarantee you that Drizzt Do'Urden is a SS.

Does he use two gloves? </inside joke>

Malleus Dei · 01-24-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ortonius

This RULES!!! I guarantee you that Drizzt Do'Urden is a SS.

My wife would like to tell you that she is certain that he actually is a Designated Hitter.

battists · 02-08-2006, 11:48 AM

Just a quick update. Things are progressing on the names front. I have sent 2 versions of our name data to Markus, and his response has been very positive.

Currently, the top 4 sets we would like to work on are as follows:

UK (potentially used together with Australian, if they are close enough)
Czech/Slavic
Portuguese
Chinese/Taiwanese

If you would like to help with any of these, please let me know. RBLWebGuy is working on the UK/Australia thing, but we don't have many other volunteers.

Thanks everyone! I'll post in a bit with a list of what is included in the "completed" list so far.

Steve

Spindel · 02-08-2006, 01:23 PM

upside:

He has ratings of infinity in contact, gap, power, eye, avoid K's He can play every position, perfectly, I might add, and hits from both sides of the plate. He clutch, a great leader, and extremely loyal.

downside:

He's also like 278 years old.

Gamingboy · 02-08-2006, 03:39 PM

I've got a bunch of last names for Israelis but I don't have any data on Frequency or anything (heck, I gotta be honest, I ripped these names from the last names from Israeli people I found on Wikipedia and the little data on the Amateur leagues there):

First Names:
Moshe
Ariel
Ehud
Menachem
Yitzkhak
Shimon
Chaim
David
Benjamin
Yossef
Yossi
Yosef
Ephraim
Ovadia
Amir
Ron
Eli
Giora
Dan
Uziel
Yonatan
Jonathan
Ilan
Avraham
Abraham
Israel
Uri
Natan
Yigal
Nachman
Baruch
Ami
Mordechai
Aki
Oded
Eytan
Ido
Nimrod
Eyal
Chaim
Beny
Avi
Micky
Tal
Amir
Tal Ben
Haim
Ronnie
Harel
Shlomo
Noam
Dudi
Barry
Dan
Jeff
Craig
Peter
Nathan
Nadav
Bentzi

Last Names:
Cohen
Levi
Katsav
Sharon
Olmert
Meir
Begin
Shamir
Peres
Weizmann
Ben-Gurion
Sharett
Netanyahu
Barak
Beilin
Lapid
Eitam
Rabin
Yosef
Peretz
Arad
Dayan
Epstein
Halutz
Gal
Ramon
Stern
Tal
Talik
Avnery
Sharansky
Amir
Farkash
Goldstein
Popper
Vanunu
Avni
Fehr
Fox
Geller
Gideon
Kamer
Podell
Topol
Alagem
Arad
Berkowitz
Brody
Burstein
Tamir
Benayoun
Haim
Berkovic
Revivo
Rosenthal
Levy
Okun
Sela
Moskovitz
Rotem
Lipitz
Chesnut
Dunning
Katz
Kurz
Keren
Pomerantz
Schlackman
Rosenberg

Twelvefield · 02-08-2006, 04:33 PM

I have compiled what I would consider a fairly complete list of male first names for Canadians, based on geography:

WEST: Bob
EAST: Doug

andymac · 02-08-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twelvefield

I have compiled what I would consider a fairly complete list of male first names for Canadians, based on geography:

WEST: Bob
EAST: Doug

How are they pronounced?

Gamingboy · 02-08-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Twelvefield

I have compiled what I would consider a fairly complete list of male first names for Canadians, based on geography:

WEST: Bob
EAST: Doug

What about the Quebecois?

battists · 02-08-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamingboy

What about the Quebecois?

They're all named "Guy."

Incidentally, the name files have specific French-Canadian names.

Dogzilla · 02-08-2006, 08:39 PM

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this link yet, but it has comprehensive lists of names (first names and surnames) for just about every country/region on earth:

http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/KateMonk/

01-22-2006, 04:29 PM	#225
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Hey folks, anyone know a Korean native who could help out with some checking? I'm very confident in our Korean last names - they came from the Republic of Korea government. I've cobbled together a long list of potential Korean given names. (In Korea, given names are practically unique, so we need a large pool of names for realism's sake!) However, I have very low confidence that these names are: a. Actually legitimate possible Korean male given names b. Are written consistently in terms of the romanization (we're using McCune-Reischauer for the last names) Anyway, the list of Korean given names is here: Korean First Names Anyone who has knowledge of Korean, or knows someone who might help out, please let me know! Last edited by battists; 01-22-2006 at 04:31 PM.

01-24-2006, 03:31 PM	#228
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	Korean Names This is table of Hanja as published by the Korean Government. The idea is to take two characters and make one name from them. If you can translate it, run a program that makes all possible combinations, your golden. http://goldname.net/cgi-bin/name_hanza2.htm

02-08-2006, 01:23 PM	#234
Spindel All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 763	upside: He has ratings of infinity in contact, gap, power, eye, avoid K's He can play every position, perfectly, I might add, and hits from both sides of the plate. He clutch, a great leader, and extremely loyal. downside: He's also like 278 years old. __________________ Union League Baseball Commissioner Last edited by Spindel; 02-08-2006 at 01:24 PM.

01-21-2006, 08:42 PM	#221
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	Steve; Send me a copy of your Scottish last name file. I have one with approx 340 names, I can merge them for you.

01-21-2006, 10:54 PM	#223
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	Scottish list sent, went from 100 to 430 names! I also have an extensive Irish Last name set, which we can talk about on AIM. I am still working on Africa.

01-23-2006, 10:57 PM	#226
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	Yes Steve, I finally delivered African name set (Approx 1500 last names, and 830 first). I will try and get more before the final release. Canadian first name set next!

02-08-2006, 11:48 AM	#233
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Just a quick update. Things are progressing on the names front. I have sent 2 versions of our name data to Markus, and his response has been very positive. Currently, the top 4 sets we would like to work on are as follows: UK (potentially used together with Australian, if they are close enough) Czech/Slavic Portuguese Chinese/Taiwanese If you would like to help with any of these, please let me know. RBLWebGuy is working on the UK/Australia thing, but we don't have many other volunteers. Thanks everyone! I'll post in a bit with a list of what is included in the "completed" list so far. Steve

02-08-2006, 03:39 PM	#235
Gamingboy Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 16	I've got a bunch of last names for Israelis but I don't have any data on Frequency or anything (heck, I gotta be honest, I ripped these names from the last names from Israeli people I found on Wikipedia and the little data on the Amateur leagues there): First Names: Moshe Ariel Ehud Menachem Yitzkhak Shimon Chaim David Benjamin Yossef Yossi Yosef Ephraim Ovadia Amir Ron Eli Giora Dan Uziel Yonatan Jonathan Ilan Avraham Abraham Israel Uri Natan Yigal Nachman Baruch Ami Mordechai Aki Oded Eytan Ido Nimrod Eyal Chaim Beny Avi Micky Tal Amir Tal Ben Haim Ronnie Harel Shlomo Noam Dudi Barry Dan Jeff Craig Peter Nathan Nadav Bentzi Last Names: Cohen Levi Katsav Sharon Olmert Meir Begin Shamir Peres Weizmann Ben-Gurion Sharett Netanyahu Barak Beilin Lapid Eitam Rabin Yosef Peretz Arad Dayan Epstein Halutz Gal Ramon Stern Tal Talik Avnery Sharansky Amir Farkash Goldstein Popper Vanunu Avni Fehr Fox Geller Gideon Kamer Podell Topol Alagem Arad Berkowitz Brody Burstein Tamir Benayoun Haim Berkovic Revivo Rosenthal Levy Okun Sela Moskovitz Rotem Lipitz Chesnut Dunning Katz Kurz Keren Pomerantz Schlackman Rosenberg

02-08-2006, 04:33 PM	#236
Twelvefield All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,188	I have compiled what I would consider a fairly complete list of male first names for Canadians, based on geography: WEST: Bob EAST: Doug

02-08-2006, 08:39 PM	#240
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 421	I'm not sure if anyone has posted this link yet, but it has comprehensive lists of names (first names and surnames) for just about every country/region on earth: http://www.gaminggeeks.org/Resources/KateMonk/