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[HoustonGM]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

He plays for the Kansas City Monarchs in the American Association, so it's theoretically possible that either we or our stats provider might somehow be pulling stats for him from there if there's some sort of id mixup somewhere.

How many AB's and PA's does he show as having?

338 PA/289 AB. It looks like it is his indie stats. I just tried a live start using MLB and the independent leagues and his stats appropriately show as KCM in the American Association, so it's an issue if you start with just the major leagues. Same goes for other players on his team like Matt Adams, Pete Kozma, etc.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by HoustonGM

338 PA/289 AB. It looks like it is his indie stats. I just tried a live start using MLB and the independent leagues and his stats appropriately show as KCM in the American Association, so it's an issue if you start with just the major leagues. Same goes for other players on his team like Matt Adams, Pete Kozma, etc.

We'll take a look at that.

[EpicLord]

I can vouch for Darnell Sweeney showing up where he shouldn't, I think he won best bat for his position in my last live start.

I wanted to ask about minor leaguers having major league service in a live start when they have never been added to the secondary roster even. I was playing a Tigers live start and noticed Jackson Jobe and Ty Madden had major league service somehow and were not being counted as prospects anymore. I figured it wasn't a unique situation, and when I filtered for minor league players not on the secondary roster, with less than 1 year major league service, and sorted by major league service days, I found a lot of prospects, almost all pitchers, who definitely should never have sniffed major league service yet, with varying levels of major league service. What is causing this issue?

Casey Mize's current injury (Tommy John) also is not reflected, he just has a 1 day recovery injury on any live start.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by EpicLord

I wanted to ask about minor leaguers having major league service in a live start when they have never been added to the secondary roster even. I was playing a Tigers live start and noticed Jackson Jobe and Ty Madden had major league service somehow and were not being counted as prospects anymore. I figured it wasn't a unique situation, and when I filtered for minor league players not on the secondary roster, with less than 1 year major league service, and sorted by major league service days, I found a lot of prospects, almost all pitchers, who definitely should never have sniffed major league service yet, with varying levels of major league service. What is causing this issue?

I'm not sure offhand why this would be happening, but we'll look into it.

[EpicLord]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

I'm not sure offhand why this would be happening, but we'll look into it.

I've been looking at teams in the minor leagues and it looks like it affects basically every team and their minor league pitchers. I'm not sure on the calculations, but for prospects who were only starting pitchers in the minors it is clear that the game is calculating the added ML service days as (GS x 6) or something equivalent. Relief appearances have some sort of fractional formula, roughly 2.5 ML service days per G appearance with some rounding somewhere. You can tell it is using some short hand formula to approximate instead of using actual days at a minor league level, because Grayson Rodriguez ML service days are stopped at 68 after he got hurt. (His ML service days is GS x 6 and then +2 for some reason)

I'm not sure why this calculation is being done at all or why it is going into ML service days, but this is what I have found. I would think whoever is managing the live start database is using some formula to approximate time in minor leagues to save time, but the calculation is also going to the wrong data field for pitchers. I would hazard a guess that it should be going into time as professional, but that data doesn't appear to be trying to be tracked at all from live start, as every player (even position players and major leaguers) starts at X years, 0 days.

[LansdowneSt]

Odd Starting positions out-of-the-box for build 83:

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=340282

[Art Deco]

Rays called up 30-something veteran minor leaguer Kevin Herget today but I don't see him at all in a live start I began yesterday. When I search "Herget", Jimmy Herget of the Angels is present of course but nothing for Kevin, who started 14 games at Durham this season:

https://www.milb.com/player/kevin-herget-643361

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Art Deco

Rays called up 30-something veteran minor leaguer Kevin Herget today but I don't see him at all in a live start I began yesterday. When I search "Herget", Jimmy Herget of the Angels is present of course but nothing for Kevin, who started 14 games at Durham this season:

https://www.milb.com/player/kevin-herget-643361

He's with an Indy team in the base db (since the rosters there are set to Opening Day). So I guess it's possible that if you load MLB only he might not get loaded in.

I'm not really sure if there's an easy way for us to fix that, but we can try to take a look and see if there's any easy way around this sort of thing in the future.

[Tiesenberg]

The Rockies 1B coach is Ron (Ronnie) Gideon.
It should be the Gideon born on 1/13/64 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Gideon) not the younger Gideon born on 9/20/94 (https://www.milb.com/player/ronnie-gideon-641612)

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Tiesenberg

The Rockies 1B coach is Ron (Ronnie) Gideon.
It should be the Gideon born on 1/13/64 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Gideon) not the younger Gideon born on 9/20/94 (https://www.milb.com/player/ronnie-gideon-641612)

Fixed.

[SB1985]

Cade Halemanu was drafted and signed by the Rays but he doesn't appear in the game. Also, any chance Hunter Elliott from Ole Miss might be re-added into the database from last years edition?

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by SB1985

Cade Halemanu was drafted and signed by the Rays but he doesn't appear in the game. Also, any chance Hunter Elliott from Ole Miss might be re-added into the database from last years edition?

Halemanu had the wrong draft year set in the db This will be fixed next patch

I moved Elliott forward as well, so he could show up now too.

[SB1985]

Thanks Lukas

[BaseballGOAT]

Started a brand new Live start after the release of the patch, Cards AA infielder Errol Robinson is no where to be found. According to MiLB.com he's been with the Cards since July 22.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by BaseballGOAT

Started a brand new Live start after the release of the patch, Cards AA infielder Errol Robinson is no where to be found. According to MiLB.com he's been with the Cards since July 22.

This is for the same reason as one of the cases mentioned above, since he starts off with an Indy League team in the db, you'd need to have his league loaded to get him into the game. I moved him to be a FA in MLB now, so this will get fixed next patch.

[SB1985]

I recently started a live start on the new patch and was going to sign some indy league players to fill out my minors rosters because I have a lot of injuries on my double a team. Most of the indy teams have no players on their rosters. Did I do something wrong?

[Situational_Lefty]

I just purchased this version and set up a live start to test out some stuff. I noticed that there are several errors regarding service time for minor league prospects. Top prospects such as Andrew Painter and Jack Leiter are showing almost a year of MLB service time.

That made me a bit curious, so I went through the MLB Top 100. 25 players on the current list show more than 100 days of service time. Many of these players have yet to move past Double-A ball. I apologize if someone else has already brought this up, but I thought you folks should be made aware.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by Situational_Lefty

I just purchased this version and set up a live start to test out some stuff. I noticed that there are several errors regarding service time for minor league prospects. Top prospects such as Andrew Painter and Jack Leiter are showing almost a year of MLB service time.

That made me a bit curious, so I went through the MLB Top 100. 25 players on the current list show more than 100 days of service time. Many of these players have yet to move past Double-A ball. I apologize if someone else has already brought this up, but I thought you folks should be made aware.

Does it sound like the same issue up higher on this page in post 207?

[Situational_Lefty]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Does it sound like the same issue up higher on this page in post 207?

Actually, it does look like it could be the same issue. I didn't notice that post before. But it does appear to only be happening with minor league pitching prospects. I haven't noticed any hitters with similar service time errors.

After my first post, I looked a little deeper and noticed that pretty much every team has several pitching prospects that have several days of service that have never actually been in the MLB.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Situational_Lefty

Actually, it does look like it could be the same issue. I didn't notice that post before. But it does appear to only be happening with minor league pitching prospects. I haven't noticed any hitters with similar service time errors.

After my first post, I looked a little deeper and noticed that pretty much every team has several pitching prospects that have several days of service that have never actually been in the MLB.

We found the problem here, and this should be fixed in the next patch.