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Join Date: Apr 2016
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DawnBTVS, I think he means in general the relief market is a "mess". So, both Closers and MR (LR and SU included). I've seen MR who are 4 to 5 stars have mediocre season in a MR role and asking for $9,000,000 per (for example) when they should be asking for, at the most $3,000,000. I think it'll come down to whether or not OOTP 19 players will be willing to accept lower leverage deals (possibly MiLB deals). I asked a similar question to Lukas and he's mentioned they are working on fixing the minor issue with FA. |
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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I'm talking middle relievers and setup men in a league where those types are not featured at all. High stamina starters, stoppers, basically 1970s baseball where you only need 2 top end relievers at most but teams are signing 3 or 4 big dollar relievers while adequate starters are falling through cracks. Adequate starter should go for 8x more at least than your 3rd or 4th reliever |
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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The only solution to solving the overuse of quotes in the News and PBP is VARIETY... you need to have MANY, MANY VARIATIONS, so that you don't see the same thing too often... the problem is that it is extremely time-consuming to create more variations. It is also very important to limit the use of items that should only come up once in a blue moon... like the Phil Rizzuto comment you listed in SOM... comments like that should only come up once a year. pstrickert does an absolutely great job on the PBP and has been at it for 10 years or so... but he can only do so much... a lot of the overused and repetitive phrases are in the HARD CODE, which is controlled by Markus, who I greatly respect as a person and a computer programmer... OOTPB is the greatest baseball game ever created... I love it dearly... having said that I think Markus can improve the News and PBP... here is some constructive recommendation and suggestion: I know from being on the Beta Team that Markus is not bothered by overuse of repetitive phrases... the News Team and PBP Team made corrections to the Hard Code way back in 2006, but Markus didn't act on it and revise the Hard Code... at that time only Markus had access to the Hard Code. At that time Markus had very few variations for the final game wrapup... maybe 5 at most... he always described a rout this way: "St. Louis destroyed New York 13-5"... I sent him 20 different ways to describe a rout... "drubbed, routed, demolished, trounced, torched, slaughtered, clobbered, stomped, bashed, battered"... it took him almost 10 years to add some additional variations... I would be willing to bet there are still only about 10 ways to describe a runaway game, when there should be 30 or so. Although I will say Markus has worked on the Hard Code since then... I see much improvement... but the Hard Code still need to be edited and improved... a good example is a line out to the pitcher... I see it way, way too often described this way; "Liner back to Maddux... GOOD REACTION !!!" Another example of lack of variety: OOTP3 had only five shutout stories in the News... what this means is EACH SHUTOUT STORY WOULD BE USED EVERY FIFTH TIME THERE WAS A SHUTOUT... Markus was satisfied with that because he just programmed to add Shutout stories to the News... he does that for all of the News categories... then its up to someone like pstrickert or the Beta Team to expand the PBP and News, to refine them and make it so they are not repetitive to the point of ad nauseam. With the help of several other 2006 Beta Team members, many variations were added to all of the News Stories and PBP. In the case of the News about 150 shutout variations were added for OOTP2006... that meant an individual shutout story would appear only once every 150 shutouts... sadly with the creations of the game recaps... repetition and redundancy have returned to the game... the game recaps are poorly designed and are in drastic need of revision. Last edited by Eugene Church; 02-10-2018 at 01:38 PM. |
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OOTP Developer
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Fyi there is almost no hard-coded text PBP anymore. We made great progress last year in moving it out to the text engine. There is still some (the line drive to the pitcher being one), but it's almost all gone. Pstrickert keeps bugging me and eventually I give in and spend a week with him moving things around and adding new items.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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Just want to thank you and Lucas Berger for all the great work you do on the game. Much appreciate you guys. |
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#206 |
Minors (Single A)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 76
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Will or could there be an option for a combined hall of fame for all major leagues? If the game had this feature I would use the association feature.
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Inside The Game
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Will we finally be able to manually retire coaches? i dont need 1761 coaches.
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Join Date: Apr 2016
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I went through all of the posts and I think I'm wrong, unless I missed it. However, I distinctly remember reading a post on this forum about the question above. In other words I saw it in another thread. Hopefully, if it hasn't been explained already Lukas or Matt can stop by and see if this is an option for future OOTP games. Quote:
Sorry man. I wasn't tying to be a jerk. I quoted your question above so hopefully we can get a clarification. But I swear I thought I saw someone explaining the College/NCAA baseball situation on these forums. Last edited by jaysfan17; 02-11-2018 at 09:19 AM. |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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I'd love to see this. I tried a game once where the American & National Leagues operated completely independent of each other and were joined in an association. Separate minor leagues, rules etc. One annoyance in this set up was the separate HOF. If they can share a draft pool why not that?
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Inside The Game
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OOTP Developments
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
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Personally it would be a big dream of mine to see a realistic functioning college setup in-game. It's probably the one feature I'd like to see most. But as I've mentioned in the past, I wouldn't recommend holding your breath to anyone else who wants to see this ![]()
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Minors (Single A)
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 92
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[QUOTE=Eugene Church;4277351]I want to state that I am overly interested in OOTPB News Stories and PBP and I realize that not everybody is concerned with them... they don't play out their games... they just sim... and they are probably the vast majority of the gamers and the most important customers... but I would still like to make the News and PBP as good as it can be for the gamers that play out their games.
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Minors (Single A)
Join Date: May 2017
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[QUOTE=Eugene Church;4277351]I want to state that I am overly interested in OOTPB News Stories and PBP and I realize that not everybody is concerned with them... they don't play out their games... they just sim... and they are probably the vast majority of the gamers and the most important customers... but I would still like to make the News and PBP as good as it can be for the gamers that play out their games.
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All Star Starter
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Ditto. I play out most of my games and really enjoy the PbP. In fact it's a big reason I have not embraced 3D. The best thing about OOTP that sets it apart from other SIMs I've played is immersion. And the PbP and news stories add a lot to that.
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Join Date: Jan 2016
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#217 |
All Star Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Borough of Kings
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I asked this question in another thread but it went unanswered (which may have actually been the answer). Will there an option to allow us to control/regulate the ethnicity/nationality of personnel (Managers, coaches, trainers, GM's etc.) in the leagues we create?
Obviously, we already posses this functionality with players, but it's sorely needed for personnel as well IMO. For example: I once added the *** to an historical MLB league that I created which started in 1977. By 1980, Earl Weaver and Billy Martin were managing in Japanese teams and the Yankees and several other teams had Japanese managers, GMs etc. While this certainly isn't a game-breaker by any stretch of the imagination, it would just be nice to have the same control (or at least the option to do so) over personnel that we already have for players to help make the game more immersive.
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#219 |
All Star Reserve
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 929
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will we get better playoff AI? the playoff experience in general has always been an enormous weakness (I think it comes from having a German in charge of the game not exactly grown up in the playoff mindset). Constantly middle relievers wind up throwing way too many innings in the playoffs and big-time setup men don't get into games early like you'd expect. In the 5th inning of an elimination game with the team down 4-1, they bring in basically their 6th best reliever. That just makes no sense...playoff AI in general but especially pitching choices needs serious work
I also talked about this earlier but the solution to association stats displaying poorly (often .000-0-0 for road team) is allow us to select what stats are shown in-game (regular season, postseason, or association, even career) Last edited by dward1; 02-14-2018 at 12:54 PM. |
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Inside The Game
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