Importing of OOTP 6 leagues - Page 11

D Love · 05-15-2006, 04:29 PM

I only found out about this compiler last month!! 19 years too late. Then again, my brother would pirate all our C64 software, so it was hit or miss what we got...

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Box Score/Stat Compiler disk, man!

FWIW, there is a pretty good .d64 version of MicroLeague floating around out there. A friend of mine that introduced me to MicroLeague (we had a league in 1987 as well) was playing through a season as the Phils just last year I believe.

CBL-Commish · 05-15-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silvam14

Good post, the moral of the story being: If your league is that important to you, you will find a way to carry your history with you, but it may not be pretty.

Edit: Hey CBL-Commish, How many seasons have you simmed in your league to date?

Eighteen. I run the league more-or-less in real time, simming or watching one game day per real day. There are currently two active pitchers from the original 1988 season, although both are highly unlikely to make it to the 2006 season without retiring.

Cyclone792 · 05-15-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

In point of fact, EVERYTHING can be saved. It's just that having a split record isn't very attractive to some people.

Personally, I am not going to underestimate the creativity of the more technically talented people on these forms. If Markus does, indeed, release a SQL dump of the database, AND if all of the data we wish to preserve is contained in either text or HTML files, I think that some sort of conversion utility could be possible.

Would it be perfect? No. Might it require a lot of work? Probably. But, if it manages to take half of the pain out of the problems RonCo and cuervo are experiencing, it could be worth it.

All I can say is, online league people, hold onto your league files from each year. You never can tell when something might come around that could help out.

I've been holding on to all our zipped up league files in POTD from each season, plus most of the midseason sims, just in case. The HD space required for it isn't an issue, and it's just one of those situations where I'm hoping that by saving everything we might be a step or three ahead of most other people.

mrbill · 05-15-2006, 05:38 PM

Seems the obvious response for those who are disappointed they can't migrate their league's history is just to not purchase.

The only real leverage anyone has is their wallet. If everyone buys the game, what incentive is there to make the history engine backward compatible?

There's always a list of possible features, Markus is picking the ones that people want and will pay for. Make importing history move to the top of that list, if it really is important (which I think it is, and I have not yet purchased, and this is one reason I'll hold off longer).

boilermaker · 05-15-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Box Score/Stat Compiler disk, man!

FWIW, there is a pretty good .d64 version of MicroLeague floating around out there. A friend of mine that introduced me to MicroLeague (we had a league in 1987 as well) was playing through a season as the Phils just last year I believe.

This is completely off topic and I never have involved myself in on-line leagues (I like solo play), but I must say your FOBL league's page is absolutely beautiful. I can empathize with the concerns of on-line players when there's that much investment into a league. Beautiful looking page/history.

emysdk · 05-15-2006, 05:56 PM

I have to agree with boilermaker. I also particularly liked the Arizona Discotheque's uniforms

boilermaker · 05-15-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by emysdk

I have to agree with boilermaker. I also particularly liked the Arizona Discotheque's uniforms

Haha...their owner bio is hilarious:

Christopher Williams (aka Frozenrope), has been General Manager/Owner/Hot Dog Vendor of the Arizona Discotheques since 2010, when the franchise formally known as the Dakota Roughriders went belly up due to a hardship lawsuit filed by prospect Shawn Clore, who had to play all 9 positions on all three minor league teams.

'Rope amassed the majority of his fortune in the mid-90's through numerous winnings on radio call-in shows across the country. "If you call enough, eventually you'll be caller number 7 and win a prize," says a very happy-go-lucky Rope. "Concert tickets can be scalped, lobster grams can peddled on Ebay, and then there's the occasional cash prize, where I don't have to do anything." Williams promises to run a tight Discotheque ship, with good character guys, strong arms and an attitude for winning at least 63 games a year. "Losing triple digits sucks."

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GForce · 05-15-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by disposableheros

from what ive read here so far, it will happen automatically and cant be stopped. this is due to no longer having ghost players.

So if I go in and delete the fictional players, what will happen? Will I screw up the entire minor league engine and, thus, development?

Thanks for the input.

GH

Ktulu · 05-15-2006, 06:55 PM

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This is one of the best ideas I've heard yet in this thread. Instead of taking earlier versions of history to the new version, take the new version to Cato.

Even better, take the cato data and figure out how to import it into ootp2006.

Cooleyvol · 05-15-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

So if I go in and delete the fictional players, what will happen? Will I screw up the entire minor league engine and, thus, development?

Thanks for the input.

GH

I'm interested in the answer to this question.

frozenrope9190 · 05-16-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

Haha...their owner bio is hilarious:

Christopher Williams (aka Frozenrope), has been General Manager/Owner/Hot Dog Vendor of the Arizona Discotheques since 2010, when the franchise formally known as the Dakota Roughriders went belly up due to a hardship lawsuit filed by prospect Shawn Clore, who had to play all 9 positions on all three minor league teams.

'Rope amassed the majority of his fortune in the mid-90's through numerous winnings on radio call-in shows across the country. "If you call enough, eventually you'll be caller number 7 and win a prize," says a very happy-go-lucky Rope. "Concert tickets can be scalped, lobster grams can peddled on Ebay, and then there's the occasional cash prize, where I don't have to do anything." Williams promises to run a tight Discotheque ship, with good character guys, strong arms and an attitude for winning at least 63 games a year. "Losing triple digits sucks."

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I'm touched. Thank you.

frozenrope9190 · 05-16-2006, 12:12 AM

FWIW... I love the fact that our league has built up a rich history. Not just with the teams, but with the players. John Johnson, Paul Pina, James Rhinehart...these names are important to us in this league, because we are so passionate about it. I would love to see the bells and whistles of the new version, but it's gonna break my heart to sever ties with our history in any capacity. I only wish there was something that could be done.

endgame · 05-16-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by frozenrope9190

FWIW... I love the fact that our league has built up a rich history. Not just with the teams, but with the players. John Johnson, Paul Pina, James Rhinehart...these names are important to us in this league, because we are so passionate about it. I would love to see the bells and whistles of the new version, but it's gonna break my heart to sever ties with our history in any capacity. I only wish there was something that could be done.

That has to be a tough feeling. Not having had long ties like that, it's difficult for me to know the extent of that heartbreak. If you choose not to continue that league within the current version, I suppose you could always name awards after your key historical players and in that respect honor the league and also have the awards have a real significance when they are acheived in the new version, keeping the memory alive so to speak.

disposableheros · 05-16-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

So if I go in and delete the fictional players, what will happen? Will I screw up the entire minor league engine and, thus, development?

Thanks for the input.

GH

not sure exactly how that would play out, but you are required to have full rosters at all minor league levels now. so, if you delete the ones created on import, you will have to replace them anyway.

cuervo72 · 05-16-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by boilermaker

This is completely off topic and I never have involved myself in on-line leagues (I like solo play), but I must say your FOBL league's page is absolutely beautiful. I can empathize with the concerns of on-line players when there's that much investment into a league. Beautiful looking page/history.

Thanks. We may come off as ornery sometimes, but we do appreciate compliments.

Site design credit goes to Simms, though I have helped out with many team logos and put together the uniforms for all of the teams (we have two new teams that need the uniform treatment, now that I think about it). I also helped put together some of the forum skins (though Simms refreshed those with the recent redesign) - every FOBL or FOFL team that wins a championship is honored with their own forum look.

And as you've found, our "maturity" comes in handy for things like the owner bios.

RonCo · 05-16-2006, 07:32 AM

The owner bios are the best thing about being a FOBL owner. That, and Buddy G's trade blocks.

Draft Dodger · 05-16-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RonCo

The owner bios are the best thing about being a FOBL owner. That, and Buddy G's trade blocks.

the free cotton candy and Tuesday night Bingo ain't bad either

RonCo · 05-16-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

the free cotton candy and Tuesday night Bingo ain't bad either

You weren't supposed to mention the super-secret initiation ritual.

andy m · 05-16-2006, 11:01 AM

you FOBL idiots are ruining this thread!

Hotblack Desiato · 05-17-2006, 01:21 PM

Will the naming conventions be the same, or will there be an easy to way to do a mass conversion? I'm not going to bother putting together a face pack for the new season of my fictional league if we're just going to lose them next year.

How will the photos be named? Will it just be p*.png? Will photos even work the same way?

05-15-2006, 05:38 PM	#204
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 982	Seems the obvious response for those who are disappointed they can't migrate their league's history is just to not purchase. The only real leverage anyone has is their wallet. If everyone buys the game, what incentive is there to make the history engine backward compatible? There's always a list of possible features, Markus is picking the ones that people want and will pay for. Make importing history move to the top of that list, if it really is important (which I think it is, and I have not yet purchased, and this is one reason I'll hold off longer). __________________ UBL - Best Online League Evar! - Los Angeles Dodgers: 25 seasons, 13 NL West titles, 4 WC, 8 NL Titles, 5-time Champs LBB v5 league (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL v6 league (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

05-16-2006, 12:12 AM	#212
frozenrope9190 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aurora, Illinois Posts: 57	FWIW... I love the fact that our league has built up a rich history. Not just with the teams, but with the players. John Johnson, Paul Pina, James Rhinehart...these names are important to us in this league, because we are so passionate about it. I would love to see the bells and whistles of the new version, but it's gonna break my heart to sever ties with our history in any capacity. I only wish there was something that could be done. __________________ Owner - Arizona Discotheques of the FOBL

05-15-2006, 05:56 PM	#206
emysdk Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 276	I have to agree with boilermaker. I also particularly liked the Arizona Discotheque's uniforms

05-16-2006, 07:32 AM	#216
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,395	The owner bios are the best thing about being a FOBL owner. That, and Buddy G's trade blocks.

05-16-2006, 11:01 AM	#219
andy m Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 183	you FOBL idiots are ruining this thread!

05-17-2006, 01:21 PM	#220
Hotblack Desiato Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 323	Will the naming conventions be the same, or will there be an easy to way to do a mass conversion? I'm not going to bother putting together a face pack for the new season of my fictional league if we're just going to lose them next year. How will the photos be named? Will it just be p*.png? Will photos even work the same way?