LansdowneSt's Facegen Checklist

[LansdowneSt]

It's only some of the MLB'ers. Kershaw, Greinke and Jose R above are three of them. Import Jose Ramirez, add my Jose facegen to fg_files folder. Refresh the face in the editor. See that it is there with a new face in-game. Close OOTP completely, going back to the desktop. Reopen the game. Load the save where Jose is. He will look fine at first blush - but if you refresh him, you'll see that my file will be gone and that old face returns. The same thing will happen to the CU pack facegen of Jose. It does take a manual refresh of the file to clear the cache - but that's how you update any facegen that's newly arrived. So frustrating. You can get away for some time not refreshing the player's face so the cache never clears but still - the fg file of the one you preferred will be gone and that's the core problem.

[clarkemi1]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Al Nixon found himself again toiling in the minors after cups of coffee with the Brooklyn Robins in 1915-16 and 1918. The Boston Braves acquired Nixon from the Class-B Texas League Beaumont Exporters before the start of the 1921 season. He was somewhat of a rarity, batting from the right side and throwing left-handed. Despite his age and stocky stature, Nixon was regarded as fast in the field and on the basepaths with a fine throwing arm. After spending three seasons with the Braves as an outfielder, Nixon was dealt to the Phillies on April 9, 1924, but stubbornly refused to report, echoing past behavior. He then jumped to “outlaw” independent leagues to play and manage. As a result, Organized Baseball placed Nixon on the ineligible list for two years before Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis reinstated him in 1926. He spent the 1926-28 seasons with the Phillies. - SABR

As requested, I redid the facegen. I also tried to keep the smoothing to a minimum.

Wow! Great work. Here's Al's Halloween Pic that I was using.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

It's only some of the MLB'ers. Kershaw, Greinke and Jose R above are three of them. Import Jose Ramirez, add my Jose facegen to fg_files folder. Refresh the face in the editor. See that it is there with a new face in-game. Close OOTP completely, going back to the desktop. Reopen the game. Load the save where Jose is. He will look fine at first blush - but if you refresh him, you'll see that my file will be gone and that old face returns. The same thing will happen to the CU pack facegen of Jose. It does take a manual refresh of the file to clear the cache - but that's how you update any facegen that's newly arrived. So frustrating. You can get away for some time not refreshing the player's face so the cache never clears but still - the fg file of the one you preferred will be gone and that's the core problem.

Wow, I'll have to try this, but that would be messed up if true. I hope there is no MLB contractual thing causing this to happen, maybe it is an inadvertant bug.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Wow, I'll have to try this, but that would be messed up if true. I hope there is no MLB contractual thing causing this to happen, maybe it is an inadvertant bug.

Dola,

Just tested and I'm not seeing what you are seeing.

I put your file in my fg_files folder and started OOTP and the file stays the same and is not reverted in any way. I then loaded up jose ramirez face in the game and reloaded it and it is still the same as your latest version

so, not sure what is going on with your game

[LansdowneSt]

If you went all the way out to the Desktop and reloaded the game, it was overwritten - or at least that's been my experience. Go to the editor and refresh the facegen. Mine may just be in the cache.

The ultimate test I did was to empty the "fg_files" folder in its entirety. Not an fg in it. Then did the test and when I reloaded the game. 1700+ fgs loaded in there when I booted up OOTP. It's those random 1700 that are the problem. Many were just foreign players but some were like Jose and wrote over what I did. I set up a separate thread and am hoping Lukas comes by and takes a look. I'd love it to be just me. At least this is a public service announcement to always keep ones you like from elsewhere in a separate folder off to the side just in case...

Here's the other thread on it: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=332296

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

If you went all the way out to the Desktop and reloaded the game, it was overwritten - or at least that's been my experience. Go to the editor and refresh the facegen. Mine may just be in the cache.

The ultimate test I did was to empty the "fg_files" folder in its entirety. Not an fg in it. Then did the test and when I reloaded the game. 1700+ fgs loaded in there when I booted up OOTP. It's those random 1700 that are the problem. Many were just foreign players but some were like Jose and wrote over what I did. I set up a separate thread and am hoping Lukas comes by and takes a look. I'd love it to be just me. At least this is a public service announcement to always keep ones you like from elsewhere in a separate folder off to the side just in case...

Here's the other thread on it: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=332296

Hmm, I would think the file dates would revert back in the folder. I don't see that. Do you see anything when you load the game up? Does it say it is copyinh facgens or anything before the main menu appears?

[LansdowneSt]

Moved my reply to the other thread...

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...61#post4831661

[LansdowneSt]

Last year, Randy Arozarena was a force of nature in the post-season. Last night he did this (much to my dismay): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tvzyIIOvfg

Redid the facegen if only as a means of Red Sox fan therapy.

[LansdowneSt]

bRef Bullpen wiki already has the details:

In 2021, Chris Taylor had a great first half to earn his first invitation to the All-Star Game, on the strength of a .277 average, 10 homers and 46 RBIs. He slumped after the break, batting just .223 and finishing in an 8-for-72 skein, to end up at .254 with 20 homers and 73 RBIs. The Dodgers won 106 games that season, tying a club record, but still finished second behind the surprising San Francisco Giants, and as a result had to play the Wild Card Game against the St. Louis Cardinals. Given his recent struggles, Chris did not start the game, but he came in as a defensive replacement in the 7th, part of a double switch, then with two outs in the 9th, with the score tied at 1 and Cody Bellinger on second base, he did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-rsJIlpyU

It wasn't Gibby doing "the impossible" but that was certainly something to see. Redid the facegen to be less the default comes-with-game style and more the kind I prefer.

[LansdowneSt]

Before I got distracted by some of my facegens getting overwritten (again, always back-up folders!) I started a Random Debut league for the purpose of giving me a list to work on. On the other thread, luckymann has reliably provided a list of players with fg's needing definitive reworking... but I wanted my own list with my own stakes to cull through. Plus, I miss playing the game. All my OOTP time has been making fg's and this way I thought I could actually play and add fgs to a game where I could see each face as it gets added.

So my league is set, I'm through the 1901 draft of the inaugural players (640 of them), and now I am moving their fgs over to the folder and going through each one. I suspect many look great given how many have worked on them before I came along. Therefore for some of them, the tweaks I make may be mere color fixing or better aligning the eyes or some other minor, incremental change. I'm not sure that's a bad thing as I'm very aware of my pace going through these and I'd like to cross more off my list sooner... and these incremental change postings will help me do that. There will still be some that need to be utterly redoneso more zombies will surely be felled and more missing files added. But I just wanted to explain in advance in case those stopping by see a posting where there isn't as big a change between before & after as usual.

Lastly, it was nice to see some of the luckymann's footnote players and the Danny Darwin's etc. that I've done lately in the game I started. Makes it feel worthwhile.

[LansdowneSt]

From Feb 19, 2016's twinkietown.com: Former Minnesota Twins infielder Nick Punto announced his retirement on Thursday, and said he has already made some post-baseball plans. "Sliding," said the 14-year MLB veteran. "That's what I'm gonna focus on." Punto, who played for five other teams in the majors and won a title with the 2011 St. Louis Cardinals, wants to expand the scope of his headfirst sliding beyond the ballpark.

"You ever been in one of those museums with the long, long hallways, and the floor is all shiny and polished," asked the California native. "What I'm thinking is, what if you just headfirst slid down the length of that hallway? Man." Punto said he has also reached out to McIntyre Family Lanes, the bowling alley nearest to Punto's Arizona home. "You ever gone bowling, and just thought, instead of a ball, what if that was me taking out those [expletive] pins," said Punto. "Well, I've been talking with Dennis, who manages the place, and it sure sounds like we can make this happen. Can you even imagine? Man."

The journeyman utility player said he plans to ramp up these efforts in the summer months. "Three words for you: Slip. And. Slide," said Punto. "People seem to think they're strictly for your backyard. What these people forget is that there is so much out there on the other side of the fence. One example: Surface parking lots. They seem to be going by the wayside in more bike-friendly communities, but those unused spaces just give you that much more flat sliding area, and many of them have ready access to outdoor faucets, dry standpipes, ice cream, you name it." Punto, who is married with two young children, said he has no immediate plans to return to baseball in a coaching or front office capacity. "I'll miss the hell out of the game, don't get me wrong," said Punto. "But headfirst sliding is a relatively small part of a 3-hour game, 30-35% at most. Now, though? Nothing but time. Nothing but time, my man. "You know if those luge dudes have to go feet first? Because I've got some ideas."

I'll always remember him as the linchpin of the Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, and Adrian Gonzalez trade.

It was a great facegen but way orange on my screen. Redid the coloring.

[LansdowneSt]

Gerónimo Peña was born to working parents in agriculture and livestock. He grew up in that environment until he was signed by the St. Louis Cardinals, an organization with which he rose to the big leagues, but before that he was considered among the best prospects in organized baseball. He spent seven seasons in the major leagues, finishing with a .262 average, 30 home runs, 124 walks and 54 stolen bases. Pepo or Pepín as they call him in Los Alcarrizos, his small homeland, returned from the ballfield back to his origins. He returned to being a farmer, returned to livestock and with joy affirms: "I feel good about what I do. Some are looking for a good car, colmadones, discos. Mine is my livestock, my animal offspring, the tranquility of nature," he says. - Diario Libre article catching up with him and with the help of Google Translator

Same facegen but thinned it some and adjusted the coloring plus some feature straightening.

[LansdowneSt]

Many major leaguers are more remembered for their accomplishments in the minors and Leo Kiely had one of them when he won 20 games in relief during the 1957 season while with the San Francisco Seals in the Pacific Coast League. It stands in sharp contrast to a middling career with the Boston Red Sox and Kansas City Athletics.

Kiely pitched extremely well for the Sox in his rookie 1951 season before reporting to the Army. Stationed in Japan, he was spotted by his former and future teammate, Frank Sullivan who recalled, “I was in a group of guys walking back to our barracks and saw a really fat body with Leo’s head on it leading a group of soldiers marching down the street. I kept looking and as they got abreast, I said, ‘Hey! Is that you, Leo?’ ‘Yeah, who wants to know?’ He halted his troops, looked over and said, ‘Hey, Sully! How the hell are you?’ ‘None of your business,’ I replied, ‘and how the hell you get so fat?’ ‘The rice beer is blowing me up.’ We both laughed and hugged and stood there talking until his troops started grumbling. ‘See you back in the real world, Sully. We’ll play some ball and have some real beer.’ ”

Upon his return, he became one of the first true relief pitchers for Boston. Becoming the ace of a pennant-winning team did not change Kiely’s temperament. The sinkerballer was known as a quiet man, a gentleman, and one who unhesitatingly took the ball when called upon. Kiely had another characteristic noted by many. Frank Sullivan, a keen observer of his surroundings, described Kiely’s penchant for beer: “He was one of the all-time beer drinkers. Never loud, never out of hand, he could sit quietly and drink you into oblivion. I continually marveled at the way he would pour each bottle of beer slowly and deliberately into a small glass and savor each sip as if it were the first of the day. I believe he was made up of 98% liquid. After five warm-up pitches, he would literally be dripping sweat from the bill of his cap. His personality was as even-keeled as anyone I had ever met; he had absolutely no enemies. I counted him as one of my best pals on the team. Leo was one of the sweetest guys I ever met. There wasn’t a bad bone in his skinny body.” - SABR

A good facegen to work with. Just tweaking on my part. Tried to brighten it a bit and to square-off the jaw a bit more. Now my Random Debut team closer has a face

[LansdowneSt]

Seven years of solid, support performance for four different teams including finishing 4th in the Rookie of the Year voting in 2002 but I am going to present the summary of his career from the "Unsung & Undrafted Podcast feat. Bobby Kielty" as it goes to my favorite moment of his career: Bobby Kielty was with Boston just at the tail-end of 2007, but really made an underrated impact in his role. He shares countless interested and movie-like stories such as: going undrafted all years of high school and college, yet winning the Cape Cod Baseball League MVP and going on to signing one of if not the largest contracts as an undrafted free agent; getting a personal call from Theo Epstein in August to hit against CC Sabathia in the playoffs and coming through; and in the final at-bat of his career (only WS AB), going deep on the first pitch he sees in the 8th inning putting the Sox up 4-1 in Game 4, which ended up being the winning-run in the World Series clincher.

Bobby is one of the few players that facegen can actually show his red hair color. Many of the more famous ones are from the B&W photo days. So I went with his fuller beard, full carrot-top crazy hair days of his Oakland tenure for the source photo.

[LansdowneSt]

Overshadowed on the diamond by the antics and accomplishments of his younger brother Patsy, George Tebeau was little more than a journeyman outfielder-first baseman in the late 19th century. The lasting impression that he made on the game came only after his playing days were behind him. For almost two decades, George was arguably the most powerful force in minor-league baseball, first as a pennant-winning manager, and thereafter as a multiteam club owner. His was also the hand that guided the formation of American Association, the premier Midwest minor-league circuit for more than 50 years. Along the way, Tebeau estranged local fan bases, was frequently at odds with fellow club owners, and periodically in hot water with major- and minor-league presidents, as well as the National Commission. But through it all, he flourished, and by the time of his unexpected death in early 1923, Tebeau was long a wealthy man and much respected in baseball circles. Like other baseball pioneers, the memory of George Tebeau receded over time. But in 2006, a handsome granite headstone was erected over his previously unadorned grave. The inscription is fitting, if slightly overstated: George Tebeau, Father of Colorado Baseball. - SABR

There was no facegen for him in the CU Facepack. Made this one so my Random Debut team's LF would have a face. I used the businessman picture of him.

[LansdowneSt]

From the predicted goat to the arguable hero of the 1931 World Series was quite an accomplishment for a somewhat stoic Dib Williams.

In January 1929 he left college and told his father that he wanted to be a ballplayer. “Doc Williams lost no time. He immediately went to Little Rock, informed the management there of his son Dib’s declaration and they quickly dispatched a couple of emissaries to sign the lad.” He made the team. In fact, Dooly reports, “Dib was something of a sensation at the Little Rock training camp. Though hardly 19 at the time, he had grown to six feet and was strong enough to hit and throw with the best of them. He made Connie Mack‘s Athletics in 1930 and served as backup second baseman to Max Bishop.

The Athletics and Cardinals matched up in the 1931 World Series with Williams playing shortstop in every game. All the pundits predicted he would wilt under the pressure of October baseball. Surely Connie Mack would go with the steady, established Joe Boley at short. When he did not, the Cardinals began to think all they needed to do was to hit balls to shortstop. (Williams’ .931 fielding percentage in the regular season was not stellar, and with the added pressure of World Series play, it was not a bad strategy.) “I don’t know of another player who went into a World’s Series under the same demoralizing circumstances,” wrote Dooly. Right after the Series Mack said, “Williams executed 24 assists and registered seven putouts, without making an error in the Series. Not all the plays were routine; the Associated Press noted his “sensational and errorless” play. And he batted .320. - SABR

I had found no fg for him in the CU pack.

[LansdowneSt]

The slider. Mention it and batters’ knees buckle. The pitch helped make Cy Young Award winners out of Clayton Kershaw and Zack Greinke, Randy Johnson and David Cone, as well as Steve Carlton, Ron Guidry, and Bob Gibson. There’s debate about who invented the slider. Chief Bender, the right-hander with the Philadelphia A’s, threw what many called a nickel curve; or as Tom Swift explained in his SABR biography of the Hall of Fame hurler, a precursor to the slider. Two other right-handers are often mentioned as the first practitioners of the pitch: George Uhle, who thrice won 20-plus games for the Cleveland Indians in the 1920s, and George Blaeholder, a longtime workhorse for terrible St. Louis Browns teams in the late 1920s and 1930s. Both Baseball Digest (1961) and The Sporting News (1952) cited Blaeholder as the inventor of the slider.

The name of the newfangled pitch was still evolving in the 1930s. Blaeholder’s slider was sometimes called a sailer, sailor, and even a fastball. In Baseball Magazine, sportswriter John J. Ward wrote, “Blaeholder’s strong point is his fastball. He generally throws this with a side-arm motion which gives the ball a curious sweep to one side as it crosses the plate. Disconcerted batters have christened it the ‘slide ball.’ Evidently this deceptive sweep is due to some peculiarity in holding and throwing the ball.” Respected sportswriter James C. Isaminger of the Philadelphia Inquirer described Blaeholder’s slider as a “spitter in which the ball had not been anointed. It is a fastball and slides away from the batter as it comes to the plate.” And yet another perspective comes from historian Rob Neyer, who suggested that Uhle’s and Blaeholder’s sliders might have been more what are now called cut fastballs, and not sliders in the Gibson-Kershaw mold; however, he admitted that no one will ever know for sure.5 In any case, Uhle and Blaeholder called their pitches sliders and are generally considered the fathers of the pitch, which has certainly developed and morphed extensively since they used them. - SABR

This one I had made some time ago and prefer. Looks like I used the same photo.

[LansdowneSt]

Kid Nichols won 361 games, lost only 208, and saved 17. He finished 95% of his career starts and was the youngest pitcher to reach 300 career victories. In the New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, the author developed a formula for determining the effect that a player had on individual pennant races throughout his career. He wasn’t surprised by the first and second rankings. “There were six pennant races that clearly would have ended differently if Babe Ruth had been merely a good player, and Mickey Mantle also had a decisive impact on six,” James wrote. “However, while you might have guessed the numbers one and two men on the list, the number three man was a pitcher who had a decisive impact on the pennant races of 1891, 1892, 1892, 1897, and 1898, Kid Nichols. Nichols won [at least] 30 games in all of those seasons - for teams that won pennants by relatively thin margins.”

Four years after his retirement, in early 1910, Nichols had a conversation with a teenager across the street from where he lived, Charles (eventually “Casey”) Stengel. Stengel would go on to become a major league player but gained far more fame leading the Yankees to seven World Series titles in twelve years. He would consistently credit Nichols as one of his most important early influences. In the 1930s Kid Nichols received recognition as a key figure helping to launch an expanded Ban Johnson League in the area, for amateur ballplayers under the age of 21. The enlarged league would produce many notable major leaguers, most prominently Mickey Mantle.

I made my Kid Nichols facegen a year ago and this is just my preference for my own work. Mine's a little less pink perhaps but the one in the pack is good too and if I'd been posting back then I'd have maybe just color adjusted it. Anyway, just posting my Kid and crossing him off my list on the Excel spreadsheet...

[LansdowneSt]

For Leo Kiely in post #193. I loaded it into my game and he was just too orange. Tweaked it and swapped the fg files. So some may need to redownload it. Sorry about that!

[LansdowneSt]

More than a few contemporary baseball insiders viewed John Clarkson as the finest pitcher of the 19th century. He won 30 or more games in a season six times, including two of the top four all-time totals, 53 in 1885 and 49 in ’89. In the 10-year period between August 1884 and July 1894, he amassed 327 victories in the National League, and then retired at the age of 33. Clarkson was recognized as half of the “$20,000 Battery,” so called for the price Boston paid for the pitcher and King Kelly. Perhaps more recognize his name because he spent much of the last four years of his life in mental hospitals. Some even claim that the crazed former ballplayer mutilated his wife [He didn't]. Seemingly the Hall of Fame forgot his name entirely, overlooking his contributions until 1963. - SABR

Redid the facegen. The old one had a mustache that looked too painted on for me.