What names would you like to see in OOTP:BM?

[battists]

I know that the game will support non-US characters, such as standard French/Spanish accents and such. But I don't think it's going to be supporting Japanese or anything like that.

MD, what do you mean by "really odd"?

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by battists

I know that the game will support non-US characters, such as standard French/Spanish accents and such. But I don't think it's going to be supporting Japanese or anything like that.

MD, what do you mean by "really odd"?

Look at the A's and their frequencies (no, I didn't adjust them):

Abbey 19
Abbot 2
Abbott 16
Abbs 8
Abby 6
Abel 1
Abell 1
Ablor 5
Abson 6
Achit 1
Ackerley 6
Ackernley 2
Ackin 2
Ackroyd 81
Acroyd 6
Adam 1
Adams 7
Adamson 46
Addeyman 6
Addy 86
Adey 1
Adkinson 3
Admanson 1
Agar 17
Agnes 1
Aichen 2
Aikroyd 2
Ainley 278
Ainly 7
Ainsworth 34
Air 1
Airay 1
Akeroyd 59
Akroyd 22
Albrecht 1
Alchin 3
Alcock 1
Alder 1
Alderson 48
Aldred 3
Alexander 8
Aline 3
Alis 4
Alison 2
Allan 6
Allanson 7
Allarton 3
Allas 7
Allatt 90
Allbrutt 1
Allbutt 4
Allen 43
Alleroyd 3
Allet 1
Allice 1
Allinson 1
Allion 1
Allis 5
Allison 8
Allody 1
Allom 8
Allot 24
Allott 103
Allsop 5
Allum 4
Almond 18
Alom 4
Alslop 7
Alsop 2
Alston 9
Ambler 38
Ambrose 1
Amitage 1
Anderlsy 8
Anderson 40
Anderton 10
Andow 9
Andrew 4
Andrews 6
Andron 5
Angane 5
Angling 1
Anis 1
Anson 11
Anterton 1
Antwisle 2
Appleby 2
Appleton 1
Appleyard 67
Arange 6
Arbean 1
Arbon 2
Archer 121
Ardin 5
Ardran 4
Ardron 12
Arloin 8
Arlom 17
Armitage 1720
Armstrong 21
Armytage 47
Arnold 7
Arnott 3
Arrand 6
Arthington 9
Ascough 1
Ashenhurst 1
Ashfield 4
Ashley 9
Ashness 6
Ashton 120
Ashworth 41
Askham 20
Askwith 1
Asman 1
Aspenal 1
Aspinal 62
Aspinall 123
Asqueth 2
Asquith 205
Asterfield 1
Astin 4
Astwick 13
Atack 46
Atckroyd 5
Atha 28
Athorn 18
Atkinson 220
Attack 3
Auby 7
Audly 2
Audsley 31
Aukland 13
Auley 1
Austin 8
Austwick 5
Auty 309
Aveyard 17
Avian 2
Avinson 1
Avison 89
Awkyard 3
Awmack 3
Ayrton 2
Aytack 8
Ayton 2

[crict]

I have a Quebec name file. It's on my old computer but I could get it if needed.

Last names from the latest census, and first name from a Quebec gouvernment list stating the most popular names given to kids born in 2002 or something like that. Pretty sure I had more than the 100 you have.

I remember there was a problem with French names that ends with an accent (like Éric Gagné). OOTP just imports Gagn. (Edit: Just saw from the post just above that it should be corrected)

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by crict

I have a Quebec name file. It's on my old computer but I could get it if needed.

Last names from the latest census, and first name from a Quebec gouvernment list stating the most popular names given to kids born in 2002 or something like that. Pretty sure I had more than the 100 you have.

I remember there was a problem with French names that ends with an accent (like Éric Gagné). OOTP just imports Gagn. (Edit: Just saw from the post just above that it should be corrected)

I've covered every element you mentioned, but maybe I missed a few accents - if you want, I'm sure battists can send it to you and you can double-check the accents I added (or missed). I also found a name file from most common names, and not baby names (more Michel, Jean and Daniel, less Matthis and the like).

[battists]

Like long_long_name said, we already have French Canadian data. But, if you're interested in seeing/checking it, just PM me!

[jm47048]

Jason Michlowitz. That's my name. Put it in there

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by jm47048

Jason Michlowitz. That's my name. Put it in there

That's a rare last name; add it yourself with a text editor.

[Malleus Dei]

Since absolutely none of the feedback to date on the Beta of the name file replacement set for OOTP (the download link is in my .sig below) has been negative in any way, if no problem has reared its ugly head by Monday I will then be releasing the name file set for general distribution.

[mrskippy]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

If someone wants a Jose Hayakawa, Leroy Kamarovsky or Stanislav Jones, he could do the editing on his own

Well, you can have a John Hayakawa. Leroy Kamarovsky and Stanislav Jones aren't out of the question either. Mark Kamarovsky and Ted Stanislav also are realistic. Interracial marraiage, legal name changes, etc. allow these things. I know many with American first names, foreign last names; foreign first names, American last names. It at least needs to occasionally happen.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by mrskippy

Well, you can have a John Hayakawa. Leroy Kamarovsky and Stanislav Jones aren't out of the question either. Mark Kamarovsky and Ted Stanislav also are realistic. Interracial marraiage, legal name changes, etc. allow these things. I know many with American first names, foreign last names; foreign first names, American last names. It at least needs to occasionally happen.

There are very few American last names, aren't there?

[99Ballons]

These are teh top African-American first names according to genealogy.com

Asante
Ashanti
Aaron
Absolan
Adrian
Adric
Ajou
Akil
Algernon
Alphonse
Alwan
Amadom
Aman
Amani
Amber
Amos
Andre
Andreas
Andrew
Anthone
Antiere
Antoine
Antonio
Aray
Arcus
Armstrong
Autry
Azibo
Baron
Barrington
Bartt
Benjamin
Benton
Bevaun
Booker
Bowie
Brendon
Busta
Calbert
Calvin
Cameron
Canard
Carl
Carnell
Cartier
Casim
Cassius
Cavin
Chante
Christopher
Clarence
Clayton
Cleavant
Cleavon
Clement
Clendon
Clester
Cleveland
Clifton
Clinton
Cody
Cordell
Corey
Cornelius
Cornell
Cornia
D'andre
D'andrea
D'angelo
D'ante
D'lon
D'marco
D'marcus
D'marreio
D'Sean
D'shaun
Da'Jon
Da'Juan
Da'Shawn
Daevin
Daevon
Dajon
Dajuan
Dallan
Dallen
Dalton
Damarco
Damon
Damone
Dandrae
Dandras
Dangelo
Daquain
Darel
Darell
Darik
Darius
Darrius
Darnay
Darnel
Darrian
Daryn
Dauntay
Davian
Davion
Dayton
De'ron
De'Shane
De'Shaun
De'Shawn
De'vegas
De'Angelo
De'John
De'Morris
Deaengelo
Deandrae
Deangelo
Deaundra
Deaven
Dedrian
Deelon
Dejohn
Delane
Delford
Dell
Delmar
Delon
Delonn
Delroy
Demaine
Demarion
Demery
Demetrius
Demonde
Demont
Dennard
Denzel
Deole
Deon
Dequain
Deron
Derrick
Deshane
Devain
Deval
Devan
Deven
Devondre
Devontae
Dewain
Dewan
Dexter
Diondre
Diron
Dixon
Donall
Dontrell
Dorsey
Duane
Dubal
Duron
Duval
Eason
Eddie
Edgerin
Edward
Edwyn
Eldrick
Elton
Emmet
Ennis
Ernard
Erskine
Ervan
Ervin
Evander
Fayard
Ferric
Garfield
Garlan
Garon
Gerain
Geroy
Ghana
Glover
Godrell
Grant
Guyton
Hareem
Hasan
Hosea
Isiah
Ivory
Ja-Ron
Jacoury
Jaedyn
Jaemon
Jahquil
Jamaall
Jamaar
Jamal
Jamal
Jamar
Jamarco
Jamarr
Jamel
Jamel
Jamero
Janard
Janile
Jaquin
Jared
Jarek
Jarel
Jarell
Jaric
Jarmarr
Jarrick
Jarvis
Jason
Jamar
Jaumar
Javan
Jefferson
Jefferson
Jefferson
Jemarcus
Jenell
Jermain
Jermaine
Jerom
Jerome
Jeron
Jerrick
Jessan
Jimar
Jimarcus
John
Jolice
Jomo
Jonathon
Jorell
Jovan
Jude
Judean
Judge
Kadema
Kamau
Karam
Karlus
Kasen
Kaven
Kaynard
Keandre
Keenan
Keifer
Kenard
Kendell
Kendrick
Kenton
Kenyata
Keon
Keyair
Keyon
Keshawn
Keyshawn
Kimbel
Kimon
Kojo
Kordal
Kordell
Kristion
Kunta
Kwamie
La-Corey
La-Ron
Ladrus
Lamar
Lamark
Lamarr
Lamont
Lance
Laran
Larent
Larice
Larmar
Laron
Lasean
Lasil
Lason
Lathan
Latrell
Latrivis
Lavan
Lavaughan
Lavernus
Lavernaeus
Lavon
Lavonne
Le-Vaughan
Ledell
Lee-Ron
Lemar
Lemarr
Lemuel
Leron
Lester
Levon
Lincoln
Liron
Lloyd
Louis
Lovell
Lucius
Luther
Lyron
Major
Malik
Mancel
Marcus
Maron
Marques
Martel
Martin
Marvin
Michael
Mikal
Montel
Montell
Montez
Natrick
Nelson
Nero
Noah
Norrece
Odell
Omari
Omarr
Onzi
Orlando
Orpheus
Otis
Patrice
Pearson
Perry
Quenton
Quincy
Quinton
Rachard
Rashard
Rashard
Radd
Ramell
Randall
Rashanti
Rashard
Raymone
Raynard
Reggie
Reggis
Reidel
Reshay
Rhashan
Robaire
Rodell
Rodney
Romain
Romeo
Romon
Romone
Romy
Rondall
Rondy
Roscoe
Rufus
Sammy
Samuel
Santana
Sayon
Sean
Sebastion
Serek
Shan
Shandrel
Shantie
Shawnte
Sheik
Sherwin
Sidell
Simeon
Smokey
Souley
Spike
Steadman
Sterlin
Steve
Stevie
Sylvester
Talin
Tameron
Taye
Taylan
Terell
Terris
Tion
Todney
Travanis
Travaughn
Travon
Trayvon
Trece
Trejean
Tremaine
Trenton
Treshaun
Treven
Trone
Tupac
Turell
Twain
Ty
Tyjon
Tyreck
Tyree
Tyreese
Tyrek
Tyrell
Tyronne
Tyrus
Umar
Vance
Vashan
Vishon
Wardell
Warwick
Waverly
Wayan
Wendell
Wesley
Wilburn
Winton
Wyclef
Xavier
Yemane
Zachary
Zchon
Zeffross
Zeshaun
Zeshon
Zyshonne

[Matzilla]

99Ballons - Great list! Thanks for posting it.

I created African-American names files last summer for use with the OOTP Originator, but your list (obviously the result of the fine source you used) is much more convincing.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by mrskippy

Well, you can have a John Hayakawa. Leroy Kamarovsky and Stanislav Jones aren't out of the question either. Mark Kamarovsky and Ted Stanislav also are realistic. Interracial marraiage, legal name changes, etc. allow these things. I know many with American first names, foreign last names; foreign first names, American last names. It at least needs to occasionally happen.

Good news for you, the way that Markus has the OOTP6 name generation programed this does actually happen sometimes. I've done a lot of name file testing and sometimes you do get a player with a first name from one name set and a last name from another.

[dankrzyz]

This is the thread of names I want to see in OOTP'06?

Ok. Cool.

How about...

Waldrop Finch?

Cedric Norway?

Wayman Deeds?

And the always-popular Tut Jennings?

Shall I go on?

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by Matzilla

99Ballons - Great list! Thanks for posting it.

I created African-American names files last summer for use with the OOTP Originator, but your list (obviously the result of the fine source you used) is much more convincing.

But... aren't African American anmes included in general American files?

[battists]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

But... aren't African American anmes included in general American files?

Noticeably "ethnic" African American names are not currently included in the U.S. names file because there's no way to prevent the occurrence or frequency of awkward combinations like "LaShawn Geisel" or some such.

Apart from creating a separate file for ethnic African American names, there's not really any way to handle this right now. You could include the ethnic African American names, and edit out the weird combinations, or you can NOT include them, and edit them in. Of course, the current U.S. names file should generate many names that would be suitable for African American players (like "Ryan Howard" or "Barry Bonds," for example). You just won't see names like "Asante," I don't think.

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by battists

Noticeably "ethnic" African American names are not currently included in the U.S. names file because there's no way to prevent the occurrence or frequency of awkward combinations like "LaShawn Geisel" or some such.

Apart from creating a separate file for ethnic African American names, there's not really any way to handle this right now. You could include the ethnic African American names, and edit out the weird combinations, or you can NOT include them, and edit them in. Of course, the current U.S. names file should generate many names that would be suitable for African American players (like "Ryan Howard" or "Barry Bonds," for example). You just won't see names like "Asante," I don't think.

What's wrong with LaShawn Geisel?

Anyway, I don't see what the big problem is with having them together. But I guess you could segregate them, that would work. I wonder if Mal would volunteer for that and hold his ridiculous testing process for them.

[battists]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

What's wrong with LaShawn Geisel?

Anyway, I don't see what the big problem is with having them together. But I guess you could segregate them, that would work. I wonder if Mal would volunteer for that and hold his ridiculous testing process for them.

IMHO, I don't think there's anything wrong with LaShawn Geisel per se. The difficulty is in controlling the frequency with which this sort of combination occurs. If you end up with one LaShawn Geisel, it would be an interesting anomaly, a la Milton Bradley or whatever.

But, if your annual amateur draft is peppered with as many "Asante Steinberg"s and "Deshaun Tortellini"s as it is John Smiths, one might feel that the name set isn't representative of the real world. Anyway, it's just one thought process. As with previous versions of OOTP, the name set will be customizable, and I believe in a more flexible fashion than previous versions.

[RBLwebguy]

Hey Steve I sent you my Russian Last name file today, approx 3733 names. I will fire off Africa tomorrow night!

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

Hey Steve I sent you my Russian Last name file today, approx 3733 names. I will fire off Africa tomorrow night!

Out of curiosity... how the hell did you manage to come up with a unified African file, given the dozens and hundreds of nationalities present?