2025 NFL Offseason thread

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Am I wrong in saying https://x.com/Scott7news/status/1932895654956945827Deebo looks like he lost a step & gained a few buffets?

Heh, I like how the video starts off (intentionally?) focused on his butt and thighs.

[Cobra Mgr]

So what's Adrian Peterson been up to?

[Déjà Bru]

This is a prime example of why I am glad Aaron Rodgers went to the Steelers, not that I have anything against them.

Aaron Rodgers blamed Jets' running game for team struggles during '25-minute diatribe'

It would be even better if he retired already.

And I cringe to imagine him as the host of Jeopardy! According to this, the only reason the show producers did not pick him was their concern about how he was going to balance the two jobs, game show host and professional football quarterback.

When Rodgers was asked, "How are you going to work this out with football scheduling?" He said, "You’ll figure it out!" That sounds like him, alright.

[Syd Thrift]

Sure man can’t have anything to do with how you refused to do play actions while you were there…

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

This is a prime example of why I am glad Aaron Rodgers went to the Steelers, not that I have anything against them.

Aaron Rodgers blamed Jets' running game for team struggles during '25-minute diatribe'

It would be even better if he retired already.

And I cringe to imagine him as the host of Jeopardy! According to this, the only reason the show producers did not pick him was their concern about how he was going to balance the two jobs, game show host and professional football quarterback.

When Rodgers was asked, "How are you going to work this out with football scheduling?" He said, "You’ll figure it out!" That sounds like him, all right.

He was damn good in his Jeopardy! auditions. (Jennings is better, because of his iconic status, but he wasn't interested in the job at the time.) When contestants would get a Rodgers-adjacent question wrong (there was one category about Sports Dynasties, and the contestants got the questions about the Yankees, the Celtics, the Canadiens, and Manchester United, but whiffed on the one about the Packers), he would visibly die a little, just as Trebek used to do when a question on Canadian geography was a triple-stumper. Best of the auditioners, I thought.

(Let's face it, David Faber was never going to get the gig.)

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

This is a prime example of why I am glad Aaron Rodgers went to the Steelers, not that I have anything against them.

Aaron Rodgers blamed Jets' running game for team struggles during '25-minute diatribe'

It would be even better if he retired already.

And I cringe to imagine him as the host of Jeopardy! According to this, the only reason the show producers did not pick him was their concern about how he was going to balance the two jobs, game show host and professional football quarterback.

When Rodgers was asked, "How are you going to work this out with football scheduling?" He said, "You’ll figure it out!" That sounds like him, alright.

As a Cowboys fan, I am not a big fan of Rodgers. But if you have no run game, it makes things a bit more difficult. What you're implying is similar to criticizing a pilot for landing on a golf course because he had no engines. Yeah, that makes a huge difference.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

As a Cowboys fan, I am not a big fan of Rodgers. But if you have no run game, it makes things a bit more difficult. What you're implying is similar to criticizing a pilot for landing on a golf course because he had no engines. Yeah, that makes a huge difference.

Oh, I am not contesting what he said. Perhaps he is correct in that. What I am objecting to is throwing people under the bus. Instead of leaving quietly and moving on, he has to throw shade and make it clear that the Jets debacle was not his fault. Sure, he has to say something if asked the direct question, but there are ways to deflect rather than burning bridges.

[Cobra Mgr]

Arbiter ruled NFL did not collude to eliminate guaranteed contracts.

Even though there was evidence in emails that it was discussed, even though they had evidence of power point presentations discouraging it, even though they have evidence they patted each other on the back for not doing so, somehow that did not amount to a conspiracy to do so.

This like is practicing a flea flicker, putting a flea flicker in the playbook, audibling to a flea flicker, scoring on a flea flicker, but somehow not planning to run a flea flicker.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Arbiter ruled NFL did not collude to eliminate guaranteed contracts.

Even though there was evidence in emails that it was discussed, even though they had evidence of power point presentations discouraging it, even though they have evidence they patted each other on the back for not doing so, somehow that did not amount to a conspiracy to do so.

This like is practicing a flea flicker, putting a flea flicker in the playbook, audibling to a flea flicker, scoring on a flea flicker, but somehow not planning to run a flea flicker.

I agree with you 100%. I just have no problem with it. They just need to add it to their CBA.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I agree with you 100%. I just have no problem with it. They just need to add it to their CBA.

Uhhhh.................It is in the CBA. Why else would it have gone to an arbiter?

The NFLPA alleged that the clubs and the league violated Article 17 of the CBA, the anti-collusion section, which prohibits clubs and its employees from entering into an agreement "express or implied" with the league or another club and its employees concerning the terms and conditions offered to a player in a player contract.

What this moron did was set an impossible threshold for a complainant to meet. It is like trying to prove racism to those of a certain ilk. Unless they get someone outright saying "I am racist/colluding" there is no way to prove it happened.

[Cobra Mgr]

Pablo Torre Finds Out - The NFL illegally conspired to collude & got a way with it.

[Déjà Bru]

Apologies, because I did not know where else to post this and I did not want to start a separate thread. (I have thought about collegiate sports threads but I don't think I would have the time, knowledge, and interest to sustain them.) Besides, look at this fellow as a future NFL prospect.

Ducks get commitment from four-star QB whose last name is -- Beaver

Bryson Beaver commits to Ducks: Rising four-star QB could put new twist in Oregon-Oregon State rivalry



Beaver had offers from Boise State, Alabama, Ole Miss, Colorado, LSU and Auburn. But not Oregon State.

Imagine the confused cheers at Oregon - Oregon State games!

"Go Beavers! Except for that guy!"

"Beat the Beavers! Not you, Bryson!"

Okay, it's a dull day (hopefully the last spent in air-conditioning for a while). This is all I got.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Uhhhh.................It is in the CBA. Why else would it have gone to an arbiter?

That's not what I meant by putting it in the CBA. I meant no fully guaranteed contracts. Because if they're going to continue to be challenged like this, they might as well address it. Put a limit on guarantees. The players union are powerless to stop it. Most players are not going on strike to benefit the richest among them.

Fully guaranteed contracts would be bad for the sport. Which is all I care about. I couldn't care less about the players. I watch the sport for my entertainment.

[Cobra Mgr]

Guaranteed contracts don't hurt the sport. Hard salary caps that aren't forgiving about major injuries is the problem. Every other institution in America guarantees contracts & commerce continues to thrive. You've been fooled by the billionaire owners that control the media.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Guaranteed contracts don't hurt the sport. Hard salary caps that aren't forgiving about major injuries is the problem. Every other institution in America guarantees contracts & commerce continues to thrive. You've been fooled by the billionaire owners that control the media.

This isn't a thought experiment or anything difficult. If you have a hard cap, any sport can be hurt by guaranteed contracts. Ideally, in any profession, you get paid to work. If you don't work, you don't get paid. That's ideal for any business/sport.

If we're talking sports, anything less than that is going to hurt the sport. Having a guaranteed contract that goes against the cap for a player that isn't playing is not helping the sport.

If you're not living up to your contract, and they can't cut you, that's not helping the sport. This is only true with a hard cap.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

This isn't a thought experiment or anything difficult. If you have a hard cap, any sport can be hurt by guaranteed contracts. Ideally, in any profession, you get paid to work. If you don't work, you don't get paid. That's ideal for any business/sport.

If we're talking sports, anything less than that is going to hurt the sport. Having a guaranteed contract that goes against the cap for a player that isn't playing is not helping the sport.

If you're not living up to your contract, and they can't cut you, that's not helping the sport. This is only true with a hard cap.

So you're against sick leave

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

So you're against sick leave

No. I get 15 sick days a year. I take every one of them whether I am sick or not. They just got to pay OT to cover me.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

No. I get 15 sick days a year. I take every one of them whether I am sick or not. They just got to pay OT to cover me.

Then how do you equate the above w/the below.

Originally Posted by Ragnar

This isn't a thought experiment or anything difficult. If you have a hard cap, any sport can be hurt by guaranteed contracts. Ideally, in any profession, you get paid to work. If you don't work, you don't get paid. That's ideal for any business/sport.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Then how do you equate the above w/the below.

I was just giving you my opinion on what was ideal from a business standpoint. I love sick days and guaranteed contracts, but does it hurt the product? In the NFL, I think it would.

If I don't go to work, the product doesn't suffer. I'm just replaced. In sports, especially the NFL with a hard cap, the product would suffer with fully guaranteed contracts. Players that are cut are usually not living up to their contract. If you force teams to carry these players further, then of course it hurts the sport. If you're 100% pro player and don't care if the sport suffers a little, fine. I couldn't care less about the players. They're there for my entertainment. That's what I pay for.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I was just giving you my opinion on what was ideal from a business standpoint. I love sick days and guaranteed contracts, but does it hurt the product? In the NFL, I think it would.

If I don't go to work, the product doesn't suffer. I'm just replaced. In sports, especially the NFL with a hard cap, the product would suffer with fully guaranteed contracts. Players that are cut are usually not living up to their contract. If you force teams to carry these players further, then of course it hurts the sport. If you're 100% pro player and don't care if the sport suffers a little, fine. I couldn't care less about the players. They're there for my entertainment. That's what I pay for.

You've expressed such feelings before. Which I find cold, calloused, & insensitive. Borderline sadistic. No different than people who could give a rat's behind about child labor. As long as the products are affordable, do whatcha gotta do. But that's you.

It's not bad for the game, guaranteed contracts. What it's bad for are owners. Every other institution operates, including professional sports, w/guaranteed contracts and survive & thrive. But somehow you and others like you are gullible enough to think NFL owners who've made billions outside of football w/guaranteed contracts are too stupid to know how to do it as a franchise owner. But you've let yourself be suckered by the spin.