Historical database issues go here!

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by beamer1029

I have a player in my challenge mode save that isnt aging or developing, any idea how to fix?

I'd go to the Player Editor page, take a screenshot and post here. To post a screenshot, look under the text window that one types in to post, and hit the "Go Advanced" button, then look down beneath the box and look for the "Manage Attachments" button, hit that and navigate to the screenshot file via the pop-up and hit "upload". Lastly, submit the response. That would help someone see who this player is and would help tremendously. Thx

[beamer1029]

I couldnt get the upload to work on here so heres the imgur

https://imgur.com/a/NAW05Y6

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by beamer1029

I couldnt get the upload to work on here so heres the imgur

https://imgur.com/a/NAW05Y6

Ah, a fictional player. What year is the sim in?

[beamer1029]

2034 but the bug has been an issue since 2029, his birthday keeps ticking up each year as well.

[DMRich]

MLB Player Images(1920-2023)
Birthday..Babe Ruth

/facegen/3d (Jackets)

Nation import_flag/image

Template_Engine (box score_page.tpl)

text_engine_Folder donsn't exist

(Perform Team) load_data base .Error could not load fault text file

(Historical) unable to load...old vesion world_default.xml

Dave (left aphasia)

[szathkey]

about 60%-80% of the 1871 players (and other 1870s players as you progress) have been mislabeled as switch hitters by the DB on import.

[jcard]

Originally Posted by Braden

Self-learning AI figured out how to play and win the ancient Chinese game of GO without being 'told' how to play. It now cannot be beaten by a human. I think it could do this stuff for OOTP! Read The Big Nine.

As a title, The Big Nine seems most apropos for a baseball conversationÂ…

[AESP_pres]

I think I'm in the right place...

Null Terry (player id 271) real name is Walter Terry.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Walter_Terry

[congokurtz]

In a historical setting with minor leagues turned on I've been noticing in the 1920s black players importing into the Texas League, despite negro rules enabled.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by congokurtz

In a historical setting with minor leagues turned on I've been noticing in the 1920s black players importing into the Texas League, despite negro rules enabled.

By importing in do you mean they begin there? Any particular players as examples?

[Timothym313]

So, I've ran 2 sims starting in 1871. In both sims George Lee and Edwin Walker appear in the 1884 season. George Lee is age 7 (8 under Real Stats) and Edwin Walker is 0 in both. The problem is both players end up having 6 to 11 lines appearing in the season stats for 1 year, in multiple seasons. They both have the exact same stats for 2 of the season also. Both are tied as the all time single season leaders (1895) with these number lines.

G-484 AB-2008 R-355 H-583 TB-774 S-461 D-75 RBI-282 BB-187

[AESP_pres]

All those players are created with no real life stats when they are loaded in 1878.

Ned Williamson (id 359)
The Only Nolan (id 361)
Russ McKelvy (id 354)
Jim McCormick (id 353)

All those players began their professional career with the Indianapolis team in 1878.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/IND/1878.shtml

Also since the Indianapolis stats aren't listed: John Clapp (127) and Orator Shafer (224) miss season according to history and Art Croft (238) is retired.
Obviously Jimmy Hallinan (84), Joe Quest (59), Fred Warner (293), Tom Healey (350) and Candy Nelson (150) 1878 statistics with Indianapolis don't show up.

Just want to add, if it does a difference for you, that I play with no minor leagues, so only the players who played in the major league show up.

[congokurtz]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

By importing in do you mean they begin there? Any particular players as examples?

So one example is I started a historical league with minors leagues on in 1919. Historical lineups, IL and transactions is OFF. When the offseason for 1920 started the NeL shows up as a minor league as well as the Texas League. The Major Leagues and the Texas League has Negro League rules enabled. Here are some of the black players in the TL:

Player List
POS # Name Inf Age B T OVR CON GAP POW EYE K's CON vL POW vL CON vR POW vR BUN BFH SPE STE DEF SctAcc
SP 3 Finis Branahan 21 R R 5.0 Stars 25 35 40 40 40 25 40 25 40 35 40 20 25 50 Very High
SP 52 Slim Branham 21 R R 5.0 Stars 25 35 40 40 40 25 40 25 40 35 35 30 60 50 Very High
CL 4 George Britt 24 R R 5.0 Stars 60 50 40 50 65 65 40 60 40 35 20 65 65 75 Very High
SP 2 Wade Johnston 21 L L 5.0 Stars 25 35 40 40 40 25 40 25 40 35 20 55 65 50 Very High
SP 96 Jimmy Oldham 21 R R 5.0 Stars 25 30 40 45 35 25 40 25 40 35 30 20 25 50 Very High
CL 32 Tom Williams 25 R R 5.0 Stars 40 20 40 50 65 40 40 35 40 40 45 20 25 50 Very High
SP 94 Reuben Curry 21 R R 4.5 Stars 30 20 40 50 65 30 40 30 40 35 65 55 65 50 Very High
RP 5 Oliver Marcell 23 R R 4.5 Stars 45 65 40 55 55 45 40 45 40 40 40 45 60 80 Very High
SP 43 Bob McClure 21 R R 4.5 Stars 25 20 40 50 65 30 40 25 40 30 20 20 25 50 Very High
SP 44 Bullet Rogan 26 R R 4.5 Stars 55 60 45 45 70 55 45 55 45 35 70 80 75 50 Very High
SP 69 Red Ryan 22 R R 4.5 Stars 35 20 40 50 65 35 40 35 40 30 45 60 60 50 Very High
CL 85 Ted Waters 20 R R 4.5 Stars 25 30 40 40 40 25 40 25 40 25 50 25 25 50 Very High
RP 52 Charley Wilson 21 R R 4.5 Stars 30 20 40 40 75 30 40 30 40 30 35 20 25 50 Very High
LF 2 Koke Alexander 23 R R 4.0 Stars 75 80 55 55 65 75 55 70 55 60 20 80 80 35 Very High
CF 32 Charlie Blackwell 25 L L 4.0 Stars 65 60 75 60 65 55 65 65 75 55 70 80 80 40 Very High
SP 8 Dave Brown 22 L L 4.0 Stars 30 20 40 50 70 25 40 30 40 35 50 65 70 50 Very High
SP 66 Andy Cooper 23 R L 4.0 Stars 25 30 40 40 45 25 40 25 40 35 35 25 25 50 Very High
RP 54 Luther Farrell 22 L L 4.0 Stars 45 60 40 50 65 40 40 45 40 35 50 20 25 50 Very High
RP 16 Cristobal Torriente 25 L L 4.0 Stars 65 70 50 55 55 60 50 70 55 35 35 65 65 75 Very High
1B 23 George Carr Jr

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Timothym313

So, I've ran 2 sims starting in 1871. In both sims George Lee and Edwin Walker appear in the 1884 season. George Lee is age 7 (8 under Real Stats) and Edwin Walker is 0 in both. The problem is both players end up having 6 to 11 lines appearing in the season stats for 1 year, in multiple seasons. They both have the exact same stats for 2 of the season also. Both are tied as the all time single season leaders (1895) with these number lines.

G-484 AB-2008 R-355 H-583 TB-774 S-461 D-75 RBI-282 BB-187

These will be fixed next patch.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

I think I'm in the right place...

Null Terry (player id 271) real name is Walter Terry.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Walter_Terry

Fixed.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

All those players are created with no real life stats when they are loaded in 1878.

Ned Williamson (id 359)
The Only Nolan (id 361)
Russ McKelvy (id 354)
Jim McCormick (id 353)

All those players began their professional career with the Indianapolis team in 1878.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/IND/1878.shtml

Also since the Indianapolis stats aren't listed: John Clapp (127) and Orator Shafer (224) miss season according to history and Art Croft (238) is retired.
Obviously Jimmy Hallinan (84), Joe Quest (59), Fred Warner (293), Tom Healey (350) and Candy Nelson (150) 1878 statistics with Indianapolis don't show up.

Just want to add, if it does a difference for you, that I play with no minor leagues, so only the players who played in the major league show up.

This is on the list of things to get to along with a few similar cases from 1884 (some of which have already been fixed).

[Lukas Berger]

I made up an updated historical db that fixes the vast majority (if not all) of the wrong dob guys from the 19th century and most of the merged players.

This will be in the public beta patch that should be out in a couple days, but I didn't want folks to have to wait any longer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5piuj04x5p...pdate.zip?dl=0

Just download this and unzip into your stats folder (overwriting the files already there, which should be found at yourootpinstalllocation\ootp24\data\stats

Then start a new historical game, and you'll get the updates (along with a bunch of other db fixes).

[Lukas Berger]

The next thing on my historical to do list is populating the hometowns and getting the code changed so those import correctly (where Ty Cobb doesn't come from Baldwn, NY or another Baldwin, like was always the case previously).

Also fixing up any still missing or incorrectly linked stats from 1878 or 1884.

[AESP_pres]

Nice timing... since my simulation only reached 1882 it isn't that big of a deal to start all over again.

Are the Indianapolis players issue I was talking about yesterday fixed?

Saw your second post after posting my reply... so I guess the answer is no for now?

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Nice timing... since my simulation only reached 1882 it isn't that big of a deal to start all over again.

Are the Indianapolis players issue I was talking about yesterday fixed?

Saw your second post after posting my reply... so I guess the answer is no for now?

Indianapolis is not fixed. As mentioned above, it's high on my list of stuff to get to next.

One or two of the teams with the same issues in 1884 are fixed (the stats are linked to other teams that are actually in the db though, since it's not possible to link to the teams not included in the db for now).