Frustrated!

[haubs35]

Just lost Ohtani on waivers after signing him as a free agent! He was on my 40 Man and 26 man but somehow I lost him on waivers?!

[eas9898]

On waivers or on Rule 5?

[LansdowneSt]

Go to Commissioner Mode (Manager Options) and undo it.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Go to Commissioner Mode (Manager Options) and undo it.

I am not sure this is the point though...why was he there in the first place? Unless this is way in the future or something, and his ratings have seriously declined???

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I am not sure this is the point though...why was he there in the first place? Unless this is way in the future or something, and his ratings have seriously declined???

Okay, I'll say it. Likely, he wasn't actually on the 40-man but neither one of us knows if it was game issue or user error. I don't want to argue what he thinks happened or what you think happened or what I think happened or the thousand possibilities that could have happened. Why create a thread of arguing about maybe this or that.

I just wanted to help him get unfrustrated and solve the problem so he can continue to play.

Commissioner Mode.

[wallewalls]

He needs to provide more info if anyone is going to help him figure out what happened.

My guess is that he forgot to put him on the 40 man after signing him, the Rule 5 came, and he was selected by someone, but he says he was on the 40 man, so idk what to say without more info. He should just go to the player's transaction history and then we'll be able to see what happened.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

He needs to provide more info if anyone is going to help him figure out what happened.

My guess is that he forgot to put him on the 40 man after signing him, the Rule 5 came, and he was selected by someone, but he says he was on the 40 man, so idk what to say without more info. He should just go to the player's transaction history and then we'll be able to see what happened.

This is the part I've never understood in OOTP nor why it's this way.

How are we able to place players on the active roster and not have them automatically be placed on the 40 man?
As far as I understand the rules players on the active roster are on the 40 man, so why is this an extra step in OOTP?

This is what likely happened. OP sighed Ohtani and placed him on his active roster thinking that he would automatically be added to the 40 man, like it would in RL, so when the Rule 5 draft comes along he loses him.

So yes telling OP to just undo it will let him play his game with Ohtani, but it also needs to be asked why did it happen?

Why is putting them on the 40 man an extra step? I can't think of a single reason why it's this way. If you know why please explain it cause I'd like to understand the reasoning behind it

[haubs35]

He signed on the 13 and lost him on waivers on the 15th.

[haubs35]

Also, no commissioner mode listed under manager options. Is it because I am in Challenge mode?

[low]

Originally Posted by haubs35

Also, no commissioner mode listed under manager options. Is it because I am in Challenge mode?

That is correct.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

This is the part I've never understood in OOTP nor why it's this way.

How are we able to place players on the active roster and not have them automatically be placed on the 40 man?
As far as I understand the rules players on the active roster are on the 40 man, so why is this an extra step in OOTP?

This is what likely happened. OP sighed Ohtani and placed him on his active roster thinking that he would automatically be added to the 40 man, like it would in RL, so when the Rule 5 draft comes along he loses him.

So yes telling OP to just undo it will let him play his game with Ohtani, but it also needs to be asked why did it happen?

Why is putting them on the 40 man an extra step? I can't think of a single reason why it's this way. If you know why please explain it cause I'd like to understand the reasoning behind it

That's never been the case for me... when I put a player on the active roster who was previously not on the 40 man, the game automatically adds him to the 40 man, assuming there is a spot available.

What happens is when you sign a player, they go to DFA limbo for the ten days or whatever it is. Sometimes you can end up forgetting about these players and if the Rule 5 happens, you can lose players this way. This also seems to happen to the AI from time to time, as I've seen players I just traded to an AI team available in the Rule 5 because they have yet to put them on the 40 man.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by haubs35

He signed on the 13 and lost him on waivers on the 15th. I can't post screenshots for some reason

You must have accidentally pressed "place player on waivers". Can you show his transcation history?

[tonnage]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

This is the part I've never understood in OOTP nor why it's this way.

How are we able to place players on the active roster and not have them automatically be placed on the 40 man?
As far as I understand the rules players on the active roster are on the 40 man, so why is this an extra step in OOTP?

This is what likely happened. OP sighed Ohtani and placed him on his active roster thinking that he would automatically be added to the 40 man, like it would in RL, so when the Rule 5 draft comes along he loses him.

So yes telling OP to just undo it will let him play his game with Ohtani, but it also needs to be asked why did it happen?

Why is putting them on the 40 man an extra step? I can't think of a single reason why it's this way. If you know why please explain it cause I'd like to understand the reasoning behind it

When I put a man on the 26 man roster he is automatically added to the 40 man. If there isn't a spot available, I'm given notification that there isn't a spot so I address it at that time.

[haubs35]

Rule 5 Draft was December 20th, 2023 so I'm not sure how I lose a guy 2 days after signing him.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by haubs35

Rule 5 Draft was December 20th, 2023 so I'm not sure how I lose a guy 2 days after signing him.

Like I said, you probably accidentally pressed "place player on waivers".

[haubs35]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

Like I said, you probably accidentally pressed "place player on waivers".

I'm pretty sure I didn't but where can I check if he was?

[haubs35]

Here is the transaction Log. As you can see I placed hicks on waivers the day after I signed Ohtani.

[Pelican]

That honestly looks like a bug to me.

One other check I would run in the Major League transactions tab. It can be a pain if there are many to sort through. I normally look at “Major Transactions” first, and anything involving Ohtani should be there. The idea is to see if there is an entry, presumably on the 14th. For example: “Ohtani is placed on waivers”. Note that would not necessarily rule out a bug. It could be showing the AI doing something the user did not intend or initiate. But logically, a player can’t be claimed unless he was first placed on waivers. There should be “tracks”. If there is not such transaction, that makes it more likely it’s a bug, to me.

[haubs35]

Here are the transaction logs....

[LansdowneSt]

In the Team transaction log where is the move putting him on the 40-man? Maybe I missed it but I didn't see it.