How to request a refund of pre-order?

feecher · 03-20-2023, 11:24 PM

PT+ is just a kick in the gut for me. Was so looking forward to all the other PT updates this season.

84Cubs · 03-20-2023, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by feecher

PT+ is just a kick in the gut for me. Was so looking forward to all the other PT updates this season.

I don't play PT, what is PT+ and how is it different from PT?

OutS|der · 03-21-2023, 12:04 AM

I'm asking for a refund as well. Created a ticket off the main site, we'll see how that goes.

r0nster · 03-21-2023, 07:20 AM

you refunders you do realize you do not have to pay in perfect game as they had pay features in the game before as you didnt complain about it then and now suddenly you complaining now??? I do not pay and will not pay in perfect game myself but some will pay and i say good for them. bottomline is its your choice

Germaniac · 03-21-2023, 07:31 AM

Absolutely.

Not different from the past where you could buy PP's ... or not buy them.

PT+ simply offers some bonuses for those who want to spend money on it, but the basic game ist not different from the past where you can play PT without spending real money

Fabtron7 · 03-21-2023, 08:10 AM

You can also play PT without spending any money at all.

Tom88 · 03-21-2023, 09:22 AM

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SOOPAMAN · 03-21-2023, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabtron7

You can also play PT without spending any money at all.

But if you place dollars, you get advantages

Rain King · 03-21-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SOOPAMAN

But if you place dollars, you get advantages

This has always been the case.

bailey · 03-21-2023, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SOOPAMAN

But if you place dollars, you get advantages

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Originally Posted by Rain King

This has always been the case.

It's a matter of scale. You needed to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to make a difference over the free player. I assume very few people did that.

But now for just $7 you get benefits equal to ~150K PP each month depending on how hard you grind.

I'm sure lots of people will sign up; good luck to those who don't.

Ty Cobb · 03-22-2023, 12:57 AM

Four post Freddie...a close relative of Three post Timmy...ever notice they're always the pedantic ones?

Charlie Hough · 03-22-2023, 01:12 AM

The whole point of every card-based team-building game in every product is for the developer to make money from players willing to pay for premium cards, virtual currency to buy card packs and booster packs, etc. I'm not aware of any sports game where this is not the case. If pay-to-win is objectionable to you, then I'm not sure why you ever played Perfect Team in the first place. I certainly never have, and I never will. If other people enjoy it, that's great. But anything like this is always going to end up being a game within the game where those willing to pay a premium will have an advantage. I'm not sure what the surprise or disappointment is about.

AirmenSmith · 03-22-2023, 05:41 AM

I’m in the category that I wish there was a separation of people that pay vs people that don’t. But oh well. When I create my team I always put F2P in my team name so people know I don’t pay.

With that said OOTP has always been great about refunds. Word of mouth is huge for their marketing so they hate bad customer service. I’m sure they will resolve the refund issue in a positive way.

OutS|der · 03-22-2023, 11:18 AM

Simple email is all that is needed. Already got my refund.

Maddox · 03-22-2023, 01:07 PM

Everybody has a different threshold of how many microtransactions are too many.

Do we have to spend money to play perfect team? No. But let's also not pretend that the selling prices for the best cards in the game are not influenced by whales, or that they won't be influenced by extra rewards you earn with the PT+ subscription.

I just feel like this will make it harder than ever for the free to play players to earn enough PP to afford cards that will be pushed ever higher in value due to excess of PP being earned and purchased.

That has always been the case but the bonus rewards added to the PT+ subscription will just push those prices even higher.

IanIachimoe · 03-22-2023, 03:15 PM

I was always F2P & still enjoyed PT a lot. it's an added challenge fighting the whales.

no idea what PT+ is. Will have to find out I guess.

Hotwheelz · 03-23-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OutS|der

Simple email is all that is needed. Already got my refund.

Sure. But then everybody wouldn't know you were looking for a refund!

OutS|der · 03-23-2023, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotwheelz

Sure. But then everybody wouldn't know you were looking for a refund!

For now at least. I'll come back when there's a discount. Steam Summer sale time

uruguru · 03-23-2023, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I’m in the category that I wish there was a separation of people that pay vs people that don’t. But oh well.

In any P2W game, one of the chief unadvertised selling points is the ability to beat players who choose not to spend money. If they segregated those non-payers away from the payers, there would be a drop in revenue and that would defeat the entire purpose of the P2W model.

PSUColonel · 03-24-2023, 12:21 AM

Anytime I read anything to do with PT...especially stuff like this... I just feel "dirty".

03-20-2023, 11:24 PM	#1
feecher Bat Boy Join Date: May 2022 Posts: 6	How to request a refund of pre-order? PT+ is just a kick in the gut for me. Was so looking forward to all the other PT updates this season.

03-21-2023, 07:31 AM	#5
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 3,059	Absolutely. Not different from the past where you could buy PP's ... or not buy them. PT+ simply offers some bonuses for those who want to spend money on it, but the basic game ist not different from the past where you can play PT without spending real money __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

03-21-2023, 08:10 AM	#6
Fabtron7 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 1,040	You can also play PT without spending any money at all. __________________

03-21-2023, 09:22 AM	#7
Tom88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2018 Location: Cracow Posts: 111	Removed Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 03-21-2023 at 09:26 AM.
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03-22-2023, 12:57 AM	#11
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,582	Four post Freddie...a close relative of Three post Timmy...ever notice they're always the pedantic ones? __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

03-21-2023, 12:04 AM	#3
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,702 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I'm asking for a refund as well. Created a ticket off the main site, we'll see how that goes.

03-21-2023, 07:20 AM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,053	you refunders you do realize you do not have to pay in perfect game as they had pay features in the game before as you didnt complain about it then and now suddenly you complaining now??? I do not pay and will not pay in perfect game myself but some will pay and i say good for them. bottomline is its your choice

03-22-2023, 01:12 AM	#12
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,640	The whole point of every card-based team-building game in every product is for the developer to make money from players willing to pay for premium cards, virtual currency to buy card packs and booster packs, etc. I'm not aware of any sports game where this is not the case. If pay-to-win is objectionable to you, then I'm not sure why you ever played Perfect Team in the first place. I certainly never have, and I never will. If other people enjoy it, that's great. But anything like this is always going to end up being a game within the game where those willing to pay a premium will have an advantage. I'm not sure what the surprise or disappointment is about. Last edited by Charlie Hough; 03-22-2023 at 01:16 AM.

03-22-2023, 05:41 AM	#13
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	I’m in the category that I wish there was a separation of people that pay vs people that don’t. But oh well. When I create my team I always put F2P in my team name so people know I don’t pay. With that said OOTP has always been great about refunds. Word of mouth is huge for their marketing so they hate bad customer service. I’m sure they will resolve the refund issue in a positive way. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

03-22-2023, 11:18 AM	#14
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,702 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Simple email is all that is needed. Already got my refund.

03-22-2023, 01:07 PM	#15
Maddox All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 903	Everybody has a different threshold of how many microtransactions are too many. Do we have to spend money to play perfect team? No. But let's also not pretend that the selling prices for the best cards in the game are not influenced by whales, or that they won't be influenced by extra rewards you earn with the PT+ subscription. I just feel like this will make it harder than ever for the free to play players to earn enough PP to afford cards that will be pushed ever higher in value due to excess of PP being earned and purchased. That has always been the case but the bonus rewards added to the PT+ subscription will just push those prices even higher.

03-22-2023, 03:15 PM	#16
IanIachimoe All Star Starter Join Date: May 2014 Location: paper st. Posts: 1,055	I was always F2P & still enjoyed PT a lot. it's an added challenge fighting the whales. no idea what PT+ is. Will have to find out I guess. __________________

03-24-2023, 12:21 AM	#20
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,105	Anytime I read anything to do with PT...especially stuff like this... I just feel "dirty".