Completely new to baseball

sutnopG · 07-18-2020, 04:56 PM

Hello!

As the title suggest i have never seen a baseball game, i have never touched this game in any way.

But i have said that i'm afraid to look in to baseball for it's potential - only for time resons - with soccer (football) & hockey as my main sports.

Yesterday i bought Out of the park 21 - so not return for me, this is the time to dive in to this and learn the sport / the game.

My question: Is the game a good learning ground for someone like me or should i just read on the internet / watch videos? Or is the combination a good way for a European, non baseball culture guy?

Many thanks in advance and thanks for your time.

/ From Sweden.

pstrickert · 07-18-2020, 05:02 PM

Hope you enjoy the game. It'll be a fairly steep learning curve for you. If I were you, I'd research the subject of baseball as much as possible. Basic rules first. Watch videos of some real life games. Watch videos of people playing OOTP. When you try it for yourself, don't worry too much about all the options. Go with the default settings, if you can. And by all means don't worry about making mistakes. Enjoy the ride!

sutnopG · 07-18-2020, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstrickert

Hope you enjoy the game. It'll be a fairly steep learning curve for you. If I were you, I'd research the subject of baseball as much as possible. Basic rules first. Watch videos of some real life games. Watch videos of people playing OOTP. When you try it for yourself, don't worry too much about all the options. Go with the default settings, if you can. And by all means don't worry about making mistakes. Enjoy the ride!

Thanks for the answer!

Sounds realistic. The pure game of baseball will be a steep learning curve for sure. The management side (Out of the park 21) will be less so, due to a big interest in NHL.

Looking forward to this. If i know my self this is a sport for me. Let's see if i can dive deep to it time wise. Will reading a lot and watch videos for the coming week, even some streams (OOTP).

appreciate the answer!

CBeisbol · 07-18-2020, 06:04 PM

I lived in Sweden for 2 years.

There was baseball there. Around Stockholm at least. I saw a round of the World Baseball Cup in Sundbyberg at Nya Orvallen - I think the stadium was called. Pretty sure there was a team called the Sundbyberg Heat. The Swedish team had a knuckleball pitcher, Karrlsson I think. He did well for a few innings then they figured him out and it wasn't such a close game.

If there are games there, and you're in the area, getting involved in the baseball community

(Remembers coronavirus exists)

Hopefully someday you can go watch some games.

As mentioned above, watch some videos. I've seen a few that kinda of break down what's happening as it happens. Baseball does have a bit of a steep learning curve. If you find any useful materials post them here. You're question isn't entirely infrequent.

There's a link in my signature for User Studies. One link in there is to a Stat Cheat Sheet which explains some of the basic statistics and gives some baseline values. That may be useful to you.

Valkommen och jattebra!

sutnopG · 07-19-2020, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

I lived in Sweden for 2 years.

There was baseball there. Around Stockholm at least. I saw a round of the World Baseball Cup in Sundbyberg at Nya Orvallen - I think the stadium was called. Pretty sure there was a team called the Sundbyberg Heat. The Swedish team had a knuckleball pitcher, Karrlsson I think. He did well for a few innings then they figured him out and it wasn't such a close game.

If there are games there, and you're in the area, getting involved in the baseball community

(Remembers coronavirus exists)

Hopefully someday you can go watch some games.

As mentioned above, watch some videos. I've seen a few that kinda of break down what's happening as it happens. Baseball does have a bit of a steep learning curve. If you find any useful materials post them here. You're question isn't entirely infrequent.

There's a link in my signature for User Studies. One link in there is to a Stat Cheat Sheet which explains some of the basic statistics and gives some baseline values. That may be useful to you.

Valkommen och jattebra!

Tack för inlägget!

I live 20 minutes from Leksand. The most successful Swedish club with 22 championships so when times become more normal (Covid) i can watch som live baseball.

Right now to my morning coffee i watching the world series game 6 from 2016 (Cubs vs Indians) - so much new stuff, completely different to anything sports wise for me. Very motivating to learn new things. Like i said in a previous post: this sport have potential for me!

I will post any useful material here if i find it for other mega-rookies.

Thanks for your time and for the links!

Brad K · 07-19-2020, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstrickert

Hope you enjoy the game. It'll be a fairly steep learning curve for you. If I were you, I'd research the subject of baseball as much as possible. Basic rules first. Watch videos of some real life games. Watch videos of people playing OOTP. When you try it for yourself, don't worry too much about all the options. Go with the default settings, if you can. And by all means don't worry about making mistakes. Enjoy the ride!

I started off with even less and never regretted it. No coaches, no scouts, 100% rating accuracy, reserve roster instead of minors, can't be fired, I think I cut some other stuff out too but can't remember.

sutnopG · 07-24-2020, 05:01 PM

Hello again!

Have done a lot of hours watching old games, also some live when the new season have started, watched videos and some reading - i like baseball.

Will post some links i feel can be helpful for people in my position soon but have a question - why is there no limit on pickoff attempts from a pitcher? Most of baseball makes total sense for me, coming from the outside but that rule feels weird. Maybe there is few attempts but to my mind a limit, say 1 or 2 per batter, is a way of making some situations more thrilling. Or?

Thanks in advance!

CBeisbol · 07-24-2020, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutnopG

Hello again!

Have done a lot of hours watching old games, also some live when the new season have started, watched videos and some reading - i like baseball.

Will post some links i feel can be helpful for people in my position soon but have a question - why is there no limit on pickoff attempts from a pitcher? Most of baseball makes total sense for me, coming from the outside but that rule feels weird. Maybe there is few attempts but to my mind a limit, say 1 or 2 per batter, is a way of making some situations more thrilling. Or?

Thanks in advance!

That's not the most exciting part of the game for sure. Limiting pickoff throws would make it a lot easier to steal - which might be a good thing.

Reed · 07-25-2020, 06:36 PM

If you have never touched a baseball, I would suggest getting a bat and ball if possible and then play some catch and batting. It is not as easy as it looks on TV. Then if you go to a game with some pretty good.players, you will really be amazed.

Years ago my aunt and uncle brought a young man to our house who was about 22 years old that was from Europe visiting the U.S.. My aunt and uncle had met his parents in Europe. Anyway, we played some catch and later went to a minor league game and sat right behind the dugout.. During the whole game he had the biggest smile and was constantly saying WOW. (Sandy and Roberto Alomar were both on the team and I was also going WOW most of the game. If I remember correctly their dad was the 3rd base coach.)

sutnopG · 07-27-2020, 09:33 AM

I have question regarding two stats in the Box Score. Hopefully someone can help me out...
https://ibb.co/TBfSdZT

The two last stats HR and RBI, first of all RBI having two rows with different data connected to them, secondly HR (not Home Run, or?)
Can't get my head around it because non of the stats to the right of AVG make sense to me. Miami for example have 1 HR but 0 runs.
I understand i reading this wrong, can someone help me.

Thanks in advance!

CBeisbol · 07-27-2020, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutnopG

I have question regarding two stats in the Box Score. Hopefully someone can help me out...
https://ibb.co/TBfSdZT

The two last stats HR and RBI, first of all RBI having two rows with different data connected to them, secondly HR (not Home Run, or?)
Can't get my head around it because non of the stats to the right of AVG make sense to me. Miami for example have 1 HR but 0 runs.
I understand i reading this wrong, can someone help me.

Thanks in advance!

Average, HR and RBI on the right are total for the season

HR and RBI on the left are for the game

sutnopG · 07-27-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Average, HR and RBI on the right are total for the season

HR and RBI on the left are for the game

Amazing. I really appreciate your time! Thanks!

sutnopG · 07-31-2020, 03:49 AM

Hello again!

Today i have a question regarding the draft. This is also new to me and i see it differs from NHL in many ways. Have done my first draft and starting to get a feel for how it works but can't get my head around why some players are drafted two times in the same year...
I understand that a player can be drafted multiple times if not signed, thats clear to me.
But some of the players i drafted in the 2020 first year draft is also drafted in the mlb june amateur draft a few days later. What is that? What am i missing? https://ibb.co/Bf5KD1P

As always, thanks in advance for your time. Appreciate any insight into this.

sutnopG · 09-17-2020, 03:14 AM

Hello!

A little update from me. Two months in to my Baseball education. Can honestly say that baseball have risen up to the top spot for me when it comes to sports - have passed Soccer & Hockey.

Watching MLB every day, at least one game. Also playing OOTP a few hours a day.

I can say with surety that i understand the game of baseball now, it's a pretty good feeling when looking back a month - two months ago, it was chaos in my brain haha.

Thanks for a great treatment on this forum back then!

BigRed75 · 09-20-2020, 09:20 AM

Glad to hear it! Welcome to the club.

Obviously, growing up in the States, I've been around the game all my life. Helped that I had two parents who are also big baseball fans (my mom even moreso than my dad).

So when I hear about someone who was never exposed to the sport growing up, and hails from a country where baseball is considered to be a minor sport, really take to baseball in such a big way, it does my heart good.

Of course, the inventor of the this great computer game of ours is another such person...

RchW · 09-20-2020, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutnopG

Hello!

A little update from me. Two months in to my Baseball education. Can honestly say that baseball have risen up to the top spot for me when it comes to sports - have passed Soccer & Hockey.

Watching MLB every day, at least one game. Also playing OOTP a few hours a day.

I can say with surety that i understand the game of baseball now, it's a pretty good feeling when looking back a month - two months ago, it was chaos in my brain haha.

Thanks for a great treatment on this forum back then!

The bold made me laugh. Playing OOTP can cause chaos in my brain.

juangulo_ · 09-20-2020, 10:33 AM

this sport is for everyone, once i started looking at it, i couldn't stop, first games are very difficult because several times you don't know what is happening, and you will be looking for the rules of the sport in the middle of the games.

with ootp, i recommend learning more basics of the game to get started with it. like knowing what a setup reliever is and how trades works in mlb. but you can learn a lot while you are playing.

cheers

joefromchicago · 09-20-2020, 04:00 PM

In truth, you don't need to know everything about baseball in order to enjoy OOTP. It's primarily a sports management game, so unless you want to play out all of your games as the field manager, you really only need to know how to evaluate players based on their statistics. For instance, I don't need to know how to play 43-man Squamish to know that an offensive nibling who can consistently score woomiks in the first six ogres is more valuable than a shallow brooder who is only good for the occasional durmish. Knowing the basics of baseball is, of course, helpful, but as long as you know what stats are good and what stats are bad you will at least be one step ahead of the Mets front office.

sutnopG · 09-27-2020, 02:00 AM

Thanks for all the feedback

See you later!

Colorado · 10-14-2020, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutnopG

Hello!

A little update from me. Two months in to my Baseball education. Can honestly say that baseball have risen up to the top spot for me when it comes to sports - have passed Soccer & Hockey.

Watching MLB every day, at least one game. Also playing OOTP a few hours a day.

I can say with surety that i understand the game of baseball now, it's a pretty good feeling when looking back a month - two months ago, it was chaos in my brain haha.

Thanks for a great treatment on this forum back then!

I've been in a similar situation to you - I've watched loads of OTTP videos on YouTube and real baseball to develop a better understanding of the game etc.

The one thing - well it's quite a large thing - that continues to throw me and stops me immersing myself fully into the OOTP is understanding all the rules and regulations around player contracts. It is unbelievably complex, even when I read the manual I find myself not understanding it.

How are you getting on with this aspect of the game??

07-18-2020, 04:56 PM	#1
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	Completely new to baseball Hello! As the title suggest i have never seen a baseball game, i have never touched this game in any way. But i have said that i'm afraid to look in to baseball for it's potential - only for time resons - with soccer (football) & hockey as my main sports. Yesterday i bought Out of the park 21 - so not return for me, this is the time to dive in to this and learn the sport / the game. My question: Is the game a good learning ground for someone like me or should i just read on the internet / watch videos? Or is the combination a good way for a European, non baseball culture guy? Many thanks in advance and thanks for your time. / From Sweden.

07-31-2020, 03:49 AM	#13
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	Hello again! Today i have a question regarding the draft. This is also new to me and i see it differs from NHL in many ways. Have done my first draft and starting to get a feel for how it works but can't get my head around why some players are drafted two times in the same year... I understand that a player can be drafted multiple times if not signed, thats clear to me. But some of the players i drafted in the 2020 first year draft is also drafted in the mlb june amateur draft a few days later. What is that? What am i missing? https://ibb.co/Bf5KD1P As always, thanks in advance for your time. Appreciate any insight into this. Last edited by sutnopG; 07-31-2020 at 09:34 AM.

09-20-2020, 09:20 AM	#15
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	Glad to hear it! Welcome to the club. Obviously, growing up in the States, I've been around the game all my life. Helped that I had two parents who are also big baseball fans (my mom even moreso than my dad). So when I hear about someone who was never exposed to the sport growing up, and hails from a country where baseball is considered to be a minor sport, really take to baseball in such a big way, it does my heart good. Of course, the inventor of the this great computer game of ours is another such person... __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

09-20-2020, 10:33 AM	#17
juangulo_ Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: mars Posts: 10	this sport is for everyone, once i started looking at it, i couldn't stop, first games are very difficult because several times you don't know what is happening, and you will be looking for the rules of the sport in the middle of the games. with ootp, i recommend learning more basics of the game to get started with it. like knowing what a setup reliever is and how trades works in mlb. but you can learn a lot while you are playing. cheers __________________ -Juan Angulo an attempt of sabermetric it's ok not to be ok

09-20-2020, 04:00 PM	#18
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,697	In truth, you don't need to know everything about baseball in order to enjoy OOTP. It's primarily a sports management game, so unless you want to play out all of your games as the field manager, you really only need to know how to evaluate players based on their statistics. For instance, I don't need to know how to play 43-man Squamish to know that an offensive nibling who can consistently score woomiks in the first six ogres is more valuable than a shallow brooder who is only good for the occasional durmish. Knowing the basics of baseball is, of course, helpful, but as long as you know what stats are good and what stats are bad you will at least be one step ahead of the Mets front office. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

07-18-2020, 05:02 PM	#2
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,404	Hope you enjoy the game. It'll be a fairly steep learning curve for you. If I were you, I'd research the subject of baseball as much as possible. Basic rules first. Watch videos of some real life games. Watch videos of people playing OOTP. When you try it for yourself, don't worry too much about all the options. Go with the default settings, if you can. And by all means don't worry about making mistakes. Enjoy the ride!

07-18-2020, 06:04 PM	#4
CBeisbol Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Ban land in 3...2... Posts: 2,943	I lived in Sweden for 2 years. There was baseball there. Around Stockholm at least. I saw a round of the World Baseball Cup in Sundbyberg at Nya Orvallen - I think the stadium was called. Pretty sure there was a team called the Sundbyberg Heat. The Swedish team had a knuckleball pitcher, Karrlsson I think. He did well for a few innings then they figured him out and it wasn't such a close game. If there are games there, and you're in the area, getting involved in the baseball community (Remembers coronavirus exists) Hopefully someday you can go watch some games. As mentioned above, watch some videos. I've seen a few that kinda of break down what's happening as it happens. Baseball does have a bit of a steep learning curve. If you find any useful materials post them here. You're question isn't entirely infrequent. There's a link in my signature for User Studies. One link in there is to a Stat Cheat Sheet which explains some of the basic statistics and gives some baseline values. That may be useful to you. Valkommen och jattebra!

07-24-2020, 05:01 PM	#7
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	Hello again! Have done a lot of hours watching old games, also some live when the new season have started, watched videos and some reading - i like baseball. Will post some links i feel can be helpful for people in my position soon but have a question - why is there no limit on pickoff attempts from a pitcher? Most of baseball makes total sense for me, coming from the outside but that rule feels weird. Maybe there is few attempts but to my mind a limit, say 1 or 2 per batter, is a way of making some situations more thrilling. Or? Thanks in advance!

07-25-2020, 06:36 PM	#9
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	If you have never touched a baseball, I would suggest getting a bat and ball if possible and then play some catch and batting. It is not as easy as it looks on TV. Then if you go to a game with some pretty good.players, you will really be amazed. Years ago my aunt and uncle brought a young man to our house who was about 22 years old that was from Europe visiting the U.S.. My aunt and uncle had met his parents in Europe. Anyway, we played some catch and later went to a minor league game and sat right behind the dugout.. During the whole game he had the biggest smile and was constantly saying WOW. (Sandy and Roberto Alomar were both on the team and I was also going WOW most of the game. If I remember correctly their dad was the 3rd base coach.)

07-27-2020, 09:33 AM	#10
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	I have question regarding two stats in the Box Score. Hopefully someone can help me out... https://ibb.co/TBfSdZT The two last stats HR and RBI, first of all RBI having two rows with different data connected to them, secondly HR (not Home Run, or?) Can't get my head around it because non of the stats to the right of AVG make sense to me. Miami for example have 1 HR but 0 runs. I understand i reading this wrong, can someone help me. Thanks in advance!

09-17-2020, 03:14 AM	#14
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	Hello! A little update from me. Two months in to my Baseball education. Can honestly say that baseball have risen up to the top spot for me when it comes to sports - have passed Soccer & Hockey. Watching MLB every day, at least one game. Also playing OOTP a few hours a day. I can say with surety that i understand the game of baseball now, it's a pretty good feeling when looking back a month - two months ago, it was chaos in my brain haha. Thanks for a great treatment on this forum back then!

09-27-2020, 02:00 AM	#19
sutnopG Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sweden Posts: 54	Thanks for all the feedback See you later!