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Old 05-29-2020, 01:45 AM   #1
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Title says it all, I dont even want to waste time getting into it, this game is so broken. Previous versions have been much better but there is no realism here. It simply plays favorites to what is written in its code. Definitely a step back.
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Title says it all, I dont even want to waste time getting into it, this game is so broken. Previous versions have been much better but there is no realism here. It simply plays favorites to what is written in its code. Definitely a step back.


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Why even speak up then? Nothing in life is perfect.
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Title says it all, I dont even want to waste time getting into it, this post is so broken. Previous posts from this user have been much better but there is no realistic desire for discussion here. It simply plays into silly ideas that would cost the game their MLB license if programmed in. Definitely a step back.
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Title says it all, I dont even want to waste time getting into it, this game is so broken. Previous versions have been much better but there is no realism here. It simply plays favorites to what is written in its code. Definitely a step back.
I am curious, What exactly do you mean when you say it plays favorites to what is written in the code? I am not trying to argue with you (Though I do love OOTP) but I just would like to know what you mean.
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An incoherent version of threads we see every year about OOTP being pre-determined.

Sometimes they are amusing. This... ...?
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Technically, they are pre-determined in the sense they follow a formula, an algorithm which, if deciphered, would enable data to be predictable. Put another way, given enough data, it would be certainly possible to observe patterns. All electronic games of chance operate this way, they can do no other since all they operate on are data.
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Technically, they are pre-determined in the sense they follow a formula, an algorithm which, if deciphered, would enable data to be predictable. Put another way, given enough data, it would be certainly possible to observe patterns. All electronic games of chance operate this way, they can do no other since all they operate on are data.
If you can crack the RNG in the game, you should be doing far better things with your talents than using it to win at OOTP.
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Title says it all, I dont even want to waste time getting into it, this game is so broken. Previous versions have been much better but there is no realism here. It simply plays favorites to what is written in its code. Definitely a step back.
Specificity or it didn't happen.
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Why even speak up then? Nothing in life is perfect.

Because its frustrating. Previous versions were just much better. I have played multiple seasons(about 6 or 7 now) both sim games and playing through whole seasons where I manage the games. Just no where near accurate at all. It seems very obvious that certain big city teams have inherent advantages and do crazy stuff to win games even with ****ty players. I get that this happens in baseball, but not like it does here, not even close. The last game that broke my back was 3 passed balls in a row with bases loaded and 2 outs in the 9th to lose by one to the Cards. Now I know you'll say well that could happen. Sure but how about the fact that this is literally the 6th game of this current season I have lost due to passed balls in the 9th to teams like the cubs, cards, and mets. 30 games into the season. And this is not the first season. Pitchers are ready, have plenty of pitch count left, and matched up well. Baseball is a game of percentages and playing those percentages, but it seems that this doesnt matter in this version of OOTP.
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If you can crack the RNG in the game, you should be doing far better things with your talents than using it to win at OOTP.



Not cracking the code saying its biased from the get go. And not biased based on talent either.
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Sometimes they are amusing. This... ...?

Played OOTP for the last 6 years, never posted a thread like this before.
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Because its frustrating. Previous versions were just much better. I have played multiple seasons(about 6 or 7 now) both sim games and playing through whole seasons where I manage the games. Just no where near accurate at all. It seems very obvious that certain big city teams have inherent advantages and do crazy stuff to win games even with ****ty players. I get that this happens in baseball, but not like it does here, not even close. The last game that broke my back was 3 passed balls in a row with bases loaded and 2 outs in the 9th to lose by one to the Cards. Now I know you'll say well that could happen. Sure but how about the fact that this is literally the 6th game of this current season I have lost due to passed balls in the 9th to teams like the cubs, cards, and mets. 30 games into the season. And this is not the first season. Pitchers are ready, have plenty of pitch count left, and matched up well. Baseball is a game of percentages and playing those percentages, but it seems that this doesnt matter in this version of OOTP.
Might want to look into the defensive abilities of your catcher. If they're average to better than average, I'm not sure what's happening. If he's a bad defensive catcher, it might be time to look at replacing him. Also, 30 games is quite a small sample size compared with the 162 game grind of the full schedule. It does sound like something weird is happening, but those would be my initial suggestions.
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I am curious, What exactly do you mean when you say it plays favorites to what is written in the code? I am not trying to argue with you (Though I do love OOTP) but I just would like to know what you mean.
Hey, are you the Zorro that was on the Puresim Baseball forums. If so, greetings! It's been a while and not sure if you'd remember who I am.
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Technically, they are pre-determined in the sense they follow a formula, an algorithm which, if deciphered, would enable data to be predictable. Put another way, given enough data, it would be certainly possible to observe patterns. All electronic games of chance operate this way, they can do no other since all they operate on are data.
That’s nice - computers can’t be truly random because true randomness doesn’t exist - but when the seed is based on stuff like system time when you start a function (that itself is controlled by a button click) it may as well be random for all intents and purposes.

If this is supposed to be a criticism of OOTP, it’s a highly edgy one.
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Because its frustrating. Previous versions were just much better. I have played multiple seasons(about 6 or 7 now) both sim games and playing through whole seasons where I manage the games. Just no where near accurate at all. It seems very obvious that certain big city teams have inherent advantages and do crazy stuff to win games even with ****ty players. I get that this happens in baseball, but not like it does here, not even close. The last game that broke my back was 3 passed balls in a row with bases loaded and 2 outs in the 9th to lose by one to the Cards. Now I know you'll say well that could happen. Sure but how about the fact that this is literally the 6th game of this current season I have lost due to passed balls in the 9th to teams like the cubs, cards, and mets. 30 games into the season. And this is not the first season. Pitchers are ready, have plenty of pitch count left, and matched up well. Baseball is a game of percentages and playing those percentages, but it seems that this doesnt matter in this version of OOTP.
The 2018 ALCS was largely decided by passed balls and pitchers making throwing errors to first. This stuff happens.


(Also, notably, you're not telling us what your catcher's defensive ratings are, only your pitchers...)
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