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Old 07-26-2019, 11:47 PM   #181
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I don't understand Dogberry's answer (unless he's hinting that Judge will hit 100) but assuming you started with no Yankees, my back-of-the-envelope calculation is that you'd spend around 89k.

If you are considering it, I'd look to get Judge since it does appear he could hit 100. Unless you overpay like crazy there's very little downside to getting the card now while you think about it.
That's out of my budget. Think the Special Yankees Rickey goes for pretty high too. Probably the only Diamond+ one I could afford is the 94 OVR.
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:19 AM   #182
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Apparently I misjudged the Oakland As mission that rewards the vida blue. Put a 94 Fingers up at what I thought was a high 50K price and it sold instantly! Always a bad feeling lol
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:52 AM   #183
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Apparently I misjudged the Oakland As mission that rewards the vida blue. Put a 94 Fingers up at what I thought was a high 50K price and it sold instantly! Always a bad feeling lol

for any collection related card i do not put a BIN on it for the first time I put it out on AH. i will set the auction for usually 24 hours. this prevents any flippers from buying card if it is priced too low and reposting at a much higher price.



if it doesnt sell the first time out then I put a BIN on it at the 7 day price.
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:58 AM   #184
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Apparently I misjudged the Oakland As mission that rewards the vida blue. Put a 94 Fingers up at what I thought was a high 50K price and it sold instantly! Always a bad feeling lol
I still can't believe what I got for my lesser Vida Blue that makes up part of the collection. I'm too far from completing this one anyway, so I'll take those points!

btw, the new Quicksell now button scares the hell out of me...I just know I'm going to hit that on something really valuable by mistake.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:00 PM   #185
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for any collection related card i do not put a BIN on it for the first time I put it out on AH. i will set the auction for usually 24 hours. this prevents any flippers from buying card if it is priced too low and reposting at a much higher price.



if it doesnt sell the first time out then I put a BIN on it at the 7 day price.
Yeah, it had no last 7 but the all-time average was just 25K. 50K seemed safe and it was actually a last second increase since I had originally typed in 44444.

plus it's a collection that requires 12/14 or similar and fingers is the highest rated card eligible so I didn't even think people would be going for it. Maybe someone was just desperate and there isn't really a market for it. Or I'll see it sell for 80K today. Oh well.

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Old 07-29-2019, 01:26 PM   #186
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Rare cards do not necessarily have a bidding history that reflects their present value. There are real deals to be had on certain specific cards, especially if none have sold in the last 7 days.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:30 AM   #187
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I'm sure that this 94 Eddie Plank card is performing well for some, but it has been an unmitigated disaster so far for me. The card performance and card ratings seem to come from two totally unrelated universes.

I tried Plank in the rotation last week and he got 10 starts to the tune of a 5.77 ERA. Put him in the bullpen for the playoffs and he pitched 1 inning and gave up 4 runs.

Decided to put him in long relief this season and not give up on him too quickly, but he's made 4 relief appearances and has a 24.00 ERA and 4.34 WHIP. He has yet to make a relief appearance without giving up at least 3 runs. His ratings are 91/82/70 as a relief pitcher so it's disappointing and unexpected. Very disappointing. Especially considering that Matt Chapman has gone perfect again, but he's locked to my team...that opportunity cost tho.

Plank is suffering from a .576 BABIP right now, but I'm starting to get a little antsy nonetheless.

Eddie Plank was garbage for me too. Embarrassing PT story... I sold him. Then picked him up again later for another team. I had somehow forgotten I owned him. And he was garbage again! When I looked at his stats, it dawned on me he was on my other team. It was the same card! The person how purchased him didn't have any luck either...
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:48 AM   #188
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As someone who was (is?) thinking of completing the Oakland collection to get Plank, this is.... very distressing news!

Collections have really slowed down for my F2P team. I'm starting to get more pessimistic that I'll complete the two missions I'm working on. The cost of the collections is still marginally less than purchasing the reward outright, but the component cards have dried up .... and when they do show up (do I even need to say this?) they are priced at about 2-3x what I'm interesting in paying. Now maybe I'm just a cheap bastage, but seeing as to how I'm doing this on a mostly F2P team, I can't afford to splurge. So I've got to keep saving and saving (which is... not terribly engaging and also pretty boring!). There is another collection this team wanted to do, but I decided it would be more cost effective to purchase the reward card directly. Only now it seems fewer people are completing collections and putting the reward cards up (at least the one I want!). So I hope when it gets to that point I can find this card.

I've also got a main "collections" team that I spend money on that just indiscriminately tries to finish collections, for the fun of completing collections. That team is working on the live collections now, and having much less trouble completing them (other than a general lack of PP to buy the diamonds I need).

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Old 07-30-2019, 12:51 PM   #189
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I picked up Eddie Plank from someone that had used him as a starter with little success. I wanted him for the bullpen where he gets a 10-point boost in stuff. He has been very good as a long/middle reliever.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:22 PM   #190
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Do you recall what you paid for him? Just sitting at work here and got curious.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:50 PM   #191
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As someone who was (is?) thinking of completing the Oakland collection to get Plank, this is.... very distressing news!
I believe I was playing him in diamond league. He might be beastly as a starter in lower leagues though.


And I never knew pitchers can get boosts in the bullpen (although I do use a lot of starters in the bullpen out of necessity on theme teams where I have limited pitcher options).
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:53 PM   #192
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I believe I was playing him in diamond league. He might be beastly as a starter in lower leagues though.


And I never knew pitchers can get boosts in the bullpen (although I do use a lot of starters in the bullpen out of necessity on theme teams where I have limited pitcher options).
If you click on the player and then use the menu in the upper right of the screen to set their position (from Starting Pitcher to Relief Pitcher) you will see their ratings boost (decrease) reflected on the card in real time.

Note that you don't have to do this to get the "reliever bonus" - the game applies it automatically when you use a starter in a relief role. But I like to explicitly set the pitcher role so they show up in the proper place in the roster listing (and I do this for DHs too and other position players when I play them at their not-default positions).
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:54 PM   #193
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do you recall what you paid for him? Just sitting at work here and got curious.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:15 PM   #194
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Here's my Eddie Plank data so far...


2035: 10 GS (no relief appearances) 57.2 IP, 5.77 ERA 1.72 WHIP, .377 BABIP, 0.6 HR/9, 2.7 BB/9, 5.0 K/9, 0.9 WAR

2036: 62 G (all as a reliever) 113.1 IP, 4.53 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, .314 BABIP, 0.7 HR/9, 4.0 BB/9, 7.3 K/9, 0.2 WAR

2037: 6 GS (back in the rotation) 41.2 IP, 3.89 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, .287 BABIP, 0.4 HR/9, 2.6 BB/9, 6.0 K/9, 1.0 WAR


It seems that this SE Eddie Plank card ages like wine?
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Old 07-30-2019, 03:31 PM   #195
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It seems that your sample size is too small.
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Old 07-30-2019, 03:34 PM   #196
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It seems that your sample size is too small.
It seems that I was making a joke. Perhaps went over your head?
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Old 07-30-2019, 03:36 PM   #197
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:14 PM   #198
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Collection card prices are still WAAAAY over-priced, I am now committed seller

So I have pretty much given up on completing any but the easiest collections for my teams. The players are just way too expensive on the AH and things haven't cooled off the way I have expected them to. In fact, in many cases, it's gotten worse.

For example, the World Champion Phillies collection, which nets you 97 Tug Mcgraw RP. I had Steve Carlton on two of my teams --- bought him for less than 20k PP on both of them before collections came out. I spent WEEKS trying to find Ruthven (75) and Reed (76) at decent prices to complete collection --- without success. So I decided to sell. I put him on with a BIN of 40k for one of my teams (more than twice what I paid). He literally sold "in minutes". So I listed him for a BIN of 50k for my other team. It took longer ---- about 6 hours --- before somebody took the BIN.

So what's interesting about that is that Tug McGraw (97) is actually "worse" than the 93 OVR Tug McGraw --- he is maybe worth 15k to 20k on the open market. I sold Carlton for 30k more than he is "worth" outside a collection when the entire collection nets a card less than that difference.

Another collection I had been trying to complete was the "Putting the Balls in Play" collection, but anybody selling Nellie Fox (74) continue to price it for 4k and up (seven-day average at 4k, all-time average at 800 --- it was only a few hundred before collections came out). So I decided to look at the selling end of some of the pieces. Today I unloaded Moreno (62) --- worth maybe 50 PP before collections for 4000 BIN.

I am just really mystified why people are overpaying so dramatically just to complete collections for so-so rewards.
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I think collections are worth considering sometimes, but should be done strategically. Start with examining the reward card in the AH - make sure you actually want it - and then work backwards from there.

At least, it worked out for me that way with Lenny Dykstra and the Phillies collection. That card is putting up 5 WAR/season in perfect and cost me just 20k...quite a fair bargain.
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To be clear, I am not saying that EVERY collection is overpriced. There are a handful of collections (what I referred to as "easy") that can be +EV even buying up the pieces. I am not going to mention here which ones --- but a clue is if almost all the pieces needed to complete the collection are live cards under 70 OVR. Those are so prevalent in packs that the supply is high enough to prevent them from getting too far out of whack.
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