Injuries on “High (Realistic Modern Day)” setting

[slugga27]

I may be getting ahead of myself because I’m only in late May, but has this setting been toned down? I have only had one injury requiring a DL stint on my major league club, and only a few injuries on my minor league club, where I am so used to getting hammered.


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[Sweed]

I may be wrong but I think the file was adjusted to have a more realistic split between pitchers and batters. P's are now more likely, as in real life, to have more injuries over all and more of those injuries will be severe. At least on my team I'm seeing fewer fielders on the IL, even those rated "fragile" while I had a workhorse 26 yr old P rated "durable" have his first injury that has him on the IL for a week.

Like you though I'm only about 2 months into my game in vXX.

[UltimateAverageGuy]

yea, youre ahead of yourself.

[Whoofe]

I think you have just had a run of decent luck as far as injuries go

most ppl just notice the bad luck

I have had my best player injured twice and has only played about 10 of 60 games so far. and my best up and coming player just went on the DL. best prospect in AA also down and out for 6 weeks. oh and the new catcher I traded for also was out for 4 weeks, just got him back into the lineup

ah well, I was expecting a losing season anyways.... this just confirms it

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by Whoofe

I think you have just had a run of decent luck as far as injuries go

most ppl just notice the bad luck

I have had my best player injured twice and has only played about 10 of 60 games so far. and my best up and coming player just went on the DL. best prospect in AA also down and out for 6 weeks. oh and the new catcher I traded for also was out for 4 weeks, just got him back into the lineup

ah well, I was expecting a losing season anyways.... this just confirms it

Wouldn’t you say I’m noticing the GOOD luck?


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[KBLover]

Originally Posted by slugga27

I may be getting ahead of myself because I’m only in late May, but has this setting been toned down? I have only had one injury requiring a DL stint on my major league club, and only a few injuries on my minor league club, where I am so used to getting hammered.

Don't forget to consider your trainer's abilities, especially in the Prevent... categories.

In my save, when I look at teams getting hammered - their trainers are terrible.

When I look at other teams that were on the lighter side - they had very solid or better trainers.

[HydroSqueegee]

made the mistake of leaving it at 'normal' on the fictional league im playing. trying to build up the worst team in the league. complete garbage except for a couple ace pitchers and a decent fielder. All 3 were out with 8-11 month injuries. This is on top of the rest of my pitching staff getting decimated with 3-8 week injuries.

[JD396]

I lost my #1 starter for 2 months to a freak off-field injury just simming to Opening Day. I think it's working just fine!

[NoOne]

pitchers break down, constantly. thowing overhand is not a natural motion. there'd be less injuries by throwing underhand, but dynamics of hitter vs pitcher may not be beneficial to that arm slot. be tough to say one way or another.

you should be able to produce similar or better spin-rates though. probably more often rising than dropping in zone, though from that angle?... which isn't optimal, i don't think.

i get decimated by injuries on normal, lol... no thanks to raising it more.

[wallewalls]

Is there a way to get more day to day and nagging injuries? I feel like when I turn injuries up I just get more long term injuries when i think it should be that there are more nagging injuries. I want to have to make the tough decision about whether or not to put my star on the IL for 10 days even though he can play through it but he might be worse and get reinjured. I want to have to use all the sweet minor league depth I have. I want to turn injuries up but I don’t want more long term injuries that come with that


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[slugga27]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

Is there a way to get more day to day and nagging injuries? I feel like when I turn injuries up I just get more long term injuries when i think it should be that there are more nagging injuries. I want to have to make the tough decision about whether or not to put my star on the IL for 10 days even though he can play through it but he might be worse and get reinjured. I want to have to use all the sweet minor league depth I have. I want to turn injuries up but I don’t want more long term injuries that come with that


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I’m experiencing more of the nagging type in 20. Since my OP, I’ve played about a week and had two long-term injuries, but generally, I’m seeing DtD stuff.


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[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Sweed

I may be wrong but I think the file was adjusted to have a more realistic split between pitchers and batters. P's are now more likely, as in real life, to have more injuries over all and more of those injuries will be severe. At least on my team I'm seeing fewer fielders on the IL, even those rated "fragile" while I had a workhorse 26 yr old P rated "durable" have his first injury that has him on the IL for a week.

Like you though I'm only about 2 months into my game in vXX.

Grant it, I was using Normal, not High, but I think the changes to the injury system really needs a look. I had a 13 year random going with 19 when 20 came out and one thing I was noticing was quite a few position players playing extended lengths without ever even the slightest of injuries. Two guys that come to mind are George Foster and Kent Hrbek. Both entered game as part of my random's inaugural draft. For 12 seasons, the only time these two missed was due to fatigue. I know if I delve into the history of that league, I can find quite a few more just like Hrbek and Foster. Mickey Mantle played 9 seasons of injury free ball. I think in ensuring pitchers get the brunt of the severe injuries, the game has went too far in limiting position player minor injuries. I feel position players need to experience more nagging type ailments that force them to miss a week or two here and there. One thing that might fix this, would be if instead of a player being able to play through a non dl type nagging injury, if he had to sit out a game or two or three, before returning with the nagging injury still in play. Just my two cents.

[slugga27]

I’m hoping Markus & co. can shed some light. Something still does not seem right.


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[slugga27]

Update: June 19th, and 16 of 17 players on the IL in my system are pitchers...


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[Dyzalot]

I play on "high" and just looked at my injured list to see what it was like. Throughout my organization on 6/4/2021 from a standard MLB quick start I have 16 guys on the injured list and 8 of them are pitchers.

[NoOne]

there's a text file (if not txt extension) that controls injuries and such.. we can edit it and affect proportions etc...

think it's in the "users\<your pc name>\ootp" type area (not a real path, lol, but you get the idea -- not he data or app path, but user path and related stuff ~where app.cfg resides or thereabouts.)..

could be wrong and it's in teh data directory too... it's there somehwere, lol.

[itsmb8]

Is it possible to copy and paste the OOTP 19 injury file into OOTP XX? I assume the argument is injuries were better in 19?

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by itsmb8

Is it possible to copy and paste the OOTP 19 injury file into OOTP XX? I assume the argument is injuries were better in 19?

I think it's completely blown out of portion.

You would needs thousands of simmed years to make any guess about injuries. Not part of 1 season.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I think it's completely blown out of portion.



You would needs thousands of simmed years to make any guess about injuries. Not part of 1 season.

This appears to be a league-wide issue, not just my team.


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[slugga27]

Originally Posted by NoOne

there's a text file (if not txt extension) that controls injuries and such.. we can edit it and affect proportions etc...

think it's in the "users\<your pc name>\ootp" type area (not a real path, lol, but you get the idea -- not he data or app path, but user path and related stuff ~where app.cfg resides or thereabouts.)..

could be wrong and it's in teh data directory too... it's there somehwere, lol.

I found it. 19 and 20 appear to have little or no change in that file.


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