Dual Players 101 (Or How to develop the Next Babe Ruth) - Page 2

Painmantle · 11-10-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

I'm going to ask again.

Dual outfielder/reliever. Any tips?

And I'll remind you of the #1 ground rule listed in the original post

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

Hello all,

First off a few ground rules.

1) It is for the most part impossible to do it with anything other than a Starting Pitcher. (You must have control of when the player pitches)

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MY only suggestion is use the Guy as a SP in the minors and pray he develops a 3rd Pitch (Provided that is his issue) or becomes good enough to be a 2 Pitch Starter.

Good Luck

Déjà Bru · 11-10-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

So that's how I became known as Painmantle to the point that my Friends even call me that or some derivative of the word "Pain" ...LOL

Thanks. Interesting derivative, although I prefer my interpretation!

Great thread, by the way. Fascinating stuff. I can't wait to try it out.

Painmantle · 11-10-2013, 11:37 PM

This is probably my most successful Player to date in an online league. He is basically part of the Starting rotation now and only used Offensively in emergency situations since his Hitting Ratings stopped short of being good enough to really be a viable option. But he is still very promising as a Pitcher and young enough that a growth spurt could put him over the top either way

The good news is I have over 20 guys I'm working with in 4 online leagues...so hopefully I'll hit the lottery eventually

da commish · 11-11-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

Could you take a screen shot of the player you have mentioned with his Batting and Pitching stats? I would very much like to see his accomplishments.

I would if I could figure out how to post a screenshot.

The Game · 11-12-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by da commish

I would if I could figure out how to post a screenshot.

This is what I use, but I believe if you hit prntscn and then ctrl-v into irfanview, paint or some other program of that type it will work also.
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bwburke94 · 11-12-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

1) It is for the most part impossible to do it with anything other than a Starting Pitcher. (You must have control of when the player pitches)

So I play him as a SP in the minors, then convert him to reliever in the majors? (I play out my major league games.)

Accipiter · 12-14-2013, 02:52 PM

I had posted a question about how to pull this off, you referred me to this thread..great read. I decided to look through my league and found another guy that also can pitch & hit....he projects around a 3.30 era / .241 opponent average.....and a .999 ops. I'm trying to trade for him right now. I think I could turn him into a superstar on both sides..

le receveur · 12-29-2013, 02:54 AM

thanks for the lesson. haven't found anyone yet. Did find an average reliever who actually who i am turning into a SS. I did however give him a start in September, and he went 6 inning 1ER 1BB 4K and got the win. he just doesn't have the stamina, but i will not hesitate to use him in case of need. now he needs to pick him SS stats. last guy i did this with, went from 20 errors in first year, to gold glove winner the next -(this is MY fun.... that and finding a knuckleballer out of the draft)

Hank1974 · 07-28-2017, 04:17 PM

This is awesome! Thanks for the guide.

I'm in an online league and I recently drafted two position players.
One is a CF with 5/5/3//5/5 potential (2-8 rating scale).
The other is a 1B/LF with 6/7/7/5/6 potential.

But the CF's pitching potential is 8/5/6 and the 1B/LF has 7/6/6, lefty and throws between 98-100.

Right now, I've made the CFer a full time SP and the 1B/LF is going to be a full time position player.

If his hitting potential wasn't so great, I'd have no problems making him a full time hurler.

I'm still getting familiar with the OOTP application and I only play in my online league (no offline at all - no time).
My question is, if I don't work on my LF/1B's pitching, will his potential eventually dry up?
I was thinking if he couldn't get to the pro's in 4 years, I'd convert him to a pitcher.

Painmantle · 07-28-2017, 05:21 PM

WOW, You are welcome!, You did some serious Searching for this thread! It laid dormant for over 3 1/2 years! Nice Find, wasn't expecting any more replies to this but I still had it subscribed to LOL

Hank1974 · 07-28-2017, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

WOW, You are welcome!, You did some serious Searching for this thread! It laid dormant for over 3 1/2 years! Nice Find, wasn't expecting any more replies to this but I still had it subscribed to LOL

LOL, thanks.
Yeah, it took a bit of digging to find some info on this.
There have been a few two-way players in our league and I'm not sure anyone has mastered it properly yet.
Your guide is a terrific piece of info.
Thank-you!

11-10-2013, 11:37 PM	#23
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	This is probably my most successful Player to date in an online league. He is basically part of the Starting rotation now and only used Offensively in emergency situations since his Hitting Ratings stopped short of being good enough to really be a viable option. But he is still very promising as a Pitcher and young enough that a growth spurt could put him over the top either way The good news is I have over 20 guys I'm working with in 4 online leagues...so hopefully I'll hit the lottery eventually __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino Last edited by Painmantle; 11-10-2013 at 11:44 PM.

07-28-2017, 05:21 PM	#30
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	WOW, You are welcome!, You did some serious Searching for this thread! It laid dormant for over 3 1/2 years! Nice Find, wasn't expecting any more replies to this but I still had it subscribed to LOL __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

12-14-2013, 02:52 PM	#27
Accipiter Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 43	I had posted a question about how to pull this off, you referred me to this thread..great read. I decided to look through my league and found another guy that also can pitch & hit....he projects around a 3.30 era / .241 opponent average.....and a .999 ops. I'm trying to trade for him right now. I think I could turn him into a superstar on both sides..

12-29-2013, 02:54 AM	#28
le receveur All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: canada Posts: 1,736	thanks for the lesson. haven't found anyone yet. Did find an average reliever who actually who i am turning into a SS. I did however give him a start in September, and he went 6 inning 1ER 1BB 4K and got the win. he just doesn't have the stamina, but i will not hesitate to use him in case of need. now he needs to pick him SS stats. last guy i did this with, went from 20 errors in first year, to gold glove winner the next -(this is MY fun.... that and finding a knuckleballer out of the draft)

07-28-2017, 04:17 PM	#29
Hank1974 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Kingsville, ONT Posts: 143	This is awesome! Thanks for the guide. I'm in an online league and I recently drafted two position players. One is a CF with 5/5/3//5/5 potential (2-8 rating scale). The other is a 1B/LF with 6/7/7/5/6 potential. But the CF's pitching potential is 8/5/6 and the 1B/LF has 7/6/6, lefty and throws between 98-100. Right now, I've made the CFer a full time SP and the 1B/LF is going to be a full time position player. If his hitting potential wasn't so great, I'd have no problems making him a full time hurler. I'm still getting familiar with the OOTP application and I only play in my online league (no offline at all - no time). My question is, if I don't work on my LF/1B's pitching, will his potential eventually dry up? I was thinking if he couldn't get to the pro's in 4 years, I'd convert him to a pitcher.