AI Managers and Messed up Lineups

[Charley575]

In '01 a combination of injuries to other players and my intentionally holding Anderson at AAA allowed him playing time. As you can see, when Anderson was up, he was starting.

[Matt Arnold]

Doesn't the manager say in his profile if he takes control of stuff? I thought it was in there. If not, yeah, we should likely be more upfront about what he'd let you do.

As for the above case, I'm a bit surprised at the lineup that's getting suggested. If it were my game, I'd be opening it up in the debugger to figure out why the manager was doing that. I can tell you that if I'd seen a lineup case like that while testing, I would likely have gone in and done something to fix that

[Charley575]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Doesn't the manager say in his profile if he takes control of stuff? I thought it was in there. If not, yeah, we should likely be more upfront about what he'd let you do.

As for the above case, I'm a bit surprised at the lineup that's getting suggested. If it were my game, I'd be opening it up in the debugger to figure out why the manager was doing that. I can tell you that if I'd seen a lineup case like that while testing, I would likely have gone in and done something to fix that

Yes, it does.

Now.

...but not when i hired him.

Your post prompted me to go in and look at his page again. I had not done so in a while. I think I now know what's going on. My manager prefers "defensive wizards and speedy, athletic players over slower players with more power." Ok, great, but my previous argument stands that Anderson is not a good enough hitter to ranked higher than Rubio on the depth chart, regardless. If the two players were closer in hitting talent it would make more sense, but the talent gap is too wide for speed alone to justify how they are being ranked.

That's something else I'd appreciate you guys looking into for v17. When you start a new game, all the managers' reputations are "unknown" and you can't tell anything about them from the stock descriptions. They all say the same thing. They might as well say nothing. You could, of course, cheat and jump into commish mode and "get under the hood", so to speak, but that doesn't feel right, you know? So you hire a guy and after a couple of seasons, seemingly overnight, their reputation becomes whatever it's going to be and that's when you find out that Mr. Walters doesn't like the GM to interfere, and he has seized total control of lineups and pitching staff, and oh by the way, he also prefers defensive wizards and speedy athletic players, blah, blah, blah. None of this was present in the beginning, it just popped up sometime between when I hired him and now.

[lwlion]

Here is the thing that frustrated me about it...well two things.

First, I would look at who was starting in the star's place, and then demote him to AAA, but I still wanted a backup at the position so that my star player can get a blow when he needs one. So I put in a different utility player that was ranked even lower than the first. I then go and ask the manager to reset the lineups. OMG, he starting that guy over my star as well.

I did this about 3 or 4 times and the utility guy, who is ranked lower than the star by far, starts over my ESTABLISHED star every time.

The only way I could get the lineup I wanted with my current manager was with no backups in the outfield at all. (My star is an outfielder) But now all three of my outfielders will have to play every game without a break. Tired? Too bad, take the field. I don't have anyone else.

The second frustrating thing is that there is no way I can communicate to my manager that he NEEDS to start the star player that I paying $20M+ to, that hits over 25 HR a year, has around 100 RBIs every season and hits around .330 to .350 over a rookie who barely makes the team and could actually be in AAA.

If a manager did this in the real world, (defied management) he would be out on his ear and ridiculed by the guys on MLB network and ESPN.

Sorry folks, it's a flaw in the game.

So, maybe the problem for me is to figure out how to set the ratings to get a clearer picture of who is better than whom.

What settings for ratings do most of you find works the best?

Thanks again.

[ScottM816]

Originally Posted by lwlion

Here is the thing that frustrated me about it...well two things.

First, I would look at who was starting in the star's place, and then demote him to AAA, but I still wanted a backup at the position so that my star player can get a blow when he needs one. So I put in a different utility player that was ranked even lower than the first. I then go and ask the manager to reset the lineups. OMG, he starting that guy over my star as well.

I did this about 3 or 4 times and the utility guy, who is ranked lower than the star by far, starts over my ESTABLISHED star every time.

The only way I could get the lineup I wanted with my current manager was with no backups in the outfield at all. (My star is an outfielder) But now all three of my outfielders will have to play every game without a break. Tired? Too bad, take the field. I don't have anyone else.

The second frustrating thing is that there is no way I can communicate to my manager that he NEEDS to start the star player that I paying $20M+ to, that hits over 25 HR a year, has around 100 RBIs every season and hits around .330 to .350 over a rookie who barely makes the team and could actually be in AAA.

If a manager did this in the real world, (defied management) he would be out on his ear and ridiculed by the guys on MLB network and ESPN.

Sorry folks, it's a flaw in the game.

So, maybe the problem for me is to figure out how to set the ratings to get a clearer picture of who is better than whom.

What settings for ratings do most of you find works the best?

Thanks again.

It's ok in my game the Angels prefer to start Adam LaRoche over Pujols...(Year 2)

[beatle]

There is something wrong was making a historical league and players with greater ratings were starting over lesser player on AI team set-ups menus. The AI is not that intelligent. These players have better hitting, fielding and pitching ratings. This makes the game less enjoyable to play and more frustrating to correct. I have ratings on 100% accuracy.

[Rain King]

Do you have Historical Transactions/Lineups turned on?

[beatle]

I can not turn it off. It is greyed out. Is there a work around?