OOTP 16 Patch #3, Version 16.3.16 Available! (Updated April 8th) - Page 2

CBLCardinals · 04-08-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Man73

Mac user here. Have downloaded and installed the patch twice, but am still getting the old rosters.

For example, playing with the Braves, but roster not only has Craig Kimbrel and Melvin Upton, but also James Russell and Wandy Rodriguez, who were released in spring training.

What might I be doing wrong? Would it be worth it to completely uninstall, then re-install with the patch?

(And yes, I did begin a new game).

Is this w the new patch from today for Mac?

C-Man73 · 04-08-2015, 07:47 PM

Yes.

JasonC23 · 04-08-2015, 07:48 PM

Just downloaded the Mac patch from today and started a standard game--rosters are fine for me.

phenom · 04-08-2015, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Man73

Yes.

Did you use a custom installation path? Is the game showing the correct version? 16.3.16 is correct on my Mac.

CBLCardinals · 04-08-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

Did you use a custom installation path? Is the game showing the correct version? 16.3.16 is correct on my Mac.

Yep same here - rosters are updated on mine as well.

C-Man73 · 04-08-2015, 09:12 PM

Downloaded 16.2 again and then downloaded 16.3 and patched it over and that worked.

Thanks for all the help.

MorseMoose · 04-08-2015, 10:17 PM

Any way to get the logo from the installer back? The blue/red/baseball icon doesn't fit the Dock like the baseball only icon did.

ashantewarrier · 04-08-2015, 11:37 PM

After more than 20+ years of being a PC user, I just converted to a <gasp!> MAC! Purchased a Mac Book Pro. Thanks for this release!

MorseMoose · 04-08-2015, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

After more than 20+ years of being a PC user, I just converted to a <gasp!> MAC! Purchased a Mac Book Pro. Thanks for this release!

You won't look back. Had a PC for 14 years of my computer life (10-24) always despising Macs after having them for the first few years of my computer life. Then, after realizing how much PCs suck...switched to Mac and haven't looked back. Have had one computer that has kept up since then.

ashantewarrier · 04-08-2015, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

You won't look back. Had a PC for 14 years of my computer life (10-24) always despising Macs after having them for the first few years of my computer life. Then, after realizing how much PCs suck...switched to Mac and haven't looked back. Have had one computer that has kept up since then.

How has your OOTP experience been using Mac?

mdthomp24 · 04-09-2015, 12:19 AM

So i downloaded the new patch and started a new quick start....the Kimbrel trade is there, but the Opening Day Rosters are still in correct. Is this how its supposed to be? Maybe I misunderstood something along the way?

mdthomp24 · 04-09-2015, 12:54 AM

I downloaded the game directly from the site, and I have build 16.3.16. Any help would be appreciated. Im dying to start playing, lol.

Habsfan18 · 04-09-2015, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mdthomp24

So i downloaded the new patch and started a new quick start....the Kimbrel trade is there, but the Opening Day Rosters are still in correct. Is this how its supposed to be? Maybe I misunderstood something along the way?

They are as accurate as possible. Sometimes the AI will send certain players down a level or two. For example, when I started the quickstart with the Jays, both Miguel Castro and Roberto Osuna were on the AA roster.

mdthomp24 · 04-09-2015, 01:48 AM

ugh, ohh ok. I've spent the last couple hours re-downloading everything and trying to get Opening Day Rosters...thats kind of disappointing. I can fix it myself, but they likely won't be where they should be. I haven't mastered all the nuances to editing stuff in the game yet.

Markus Heinsohn · 04-09-2015, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mdthomp24

ugh, ohh ok. I've spent the last couple hours re-downloading everything and trying to get Opening Day Rosters...thats kind of disappointing. I can fix it myself, but they likely won't be where they should be. I haven't mastered all the nuances to editing stuff in the game yet.

Some things are just impossible to do... we cannot "force" the AI to set up its rosters in a certain way, we just can fine tune player ratings and hope the AI uses the players as close to real life as possible.

seven · 04-09-2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mdthomp24

ugh, ohh ok. I've spent the last couple hours re-downloading everything and trying to get Opening Day Rosters...thats kind of disappointing. I can fix it myself, but they likely won't be where they should be. I haven't mastered all the nuances to editing stuff in the game yet.

You have to keep in mind that the philosophy behind using current season rosters in OOTP is to start as close as possible to real rosters, then let events and the AI in the program guide the outcome of the game. It should be expected that the AI is going to make some adjustments to rosters that will not match real life. Even if the game happened to get everything perfectly aligned with rosters as they stood in real life on opening day (or if you tweaked things to make it that way), the rosters would begin to diverge from real life because of specific events that happen within the game and that do not happen in real life (and vice versa). And the deeper into the season you go, the more the rosters in the game will diverge from real life rosters. That's the nature of this game.

You have the option of playing in commissioner mode and copying all roster moves and injuries that occur in real life and updating the game rosters accordingly, but that is a lot of work if you are tracking the full set of major league teams. If your goal is to run the game in that style, you'd be better off running historical seasons. For my part, I find it very interesting to watch the season unfold within the OOTP world from a starting point that is quite close to opening day rosters, recognizing that the simulated world will diverge more and more from real life outcomes as the season progresses.

seven · 04-09-2015, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

How has your OOTP experience been using Mac?

I'm not sure about MorseMoose, but my experience with OOTP on Mac has been terrific -- the speed with which this last patch business was resolved is an example of how committed OOTP developers are to the Mac platform. In fact, when the glitch was noted, I took it for granted that it would be fixed by the next day, and that's exactly what happened. That's one of the main reasons I'm an OOTP fan. Another is the great support provided by followers of this forum.

rpriske · 04-09-2015, 09:48 AM

I see that the injury effect when there was a diagnosis pending was 'fixed'.

It was much better when it was 'broken'.

When someone gets hurt we should know what was injured, even if we don't know the extent of it.

Matt Arnold · 04-09-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rpriske

I see that the injury effect when there was a diagnosis pending was 'fixed'.

It was much better when it was 'broken'.

When someone gets hurt we should know what was injured, even if we don't know the extent of it.

I agree and disagree. I think in pending state, we likely should mention the basics (ie. arm injury or elbow injury, for example). But it would be stupid to say, "pending injury - Tommy John surgery". Geez, I wonder how long he'll be hurt for?

Curve Ball Dave · 04-09-2015, 10:48 AM

I appreciate the updates and fixes, I just wish the patch wasn't a full 939mb download

04-08-2015, 11:37 PM	#28
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,305	After more than 20+ years of being a PC user, I just converted to a <gasp!> MAC! Purchased a Mac Book Pro. Thanks for this release! __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

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rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 26,559	I see that the injury effect when there was a diagnosis pending was 'fixed'. It was much better when it was 'broken'. When someone gets hurt we should know what was injured, even if we don't know the extent of it. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

04-09-2015, 10:48 AM	#40
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,359	I appreciate the updates and fixes, I just wish the patch wasn't a full 939mb download __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

04-08-2015, 07:47 PM	#22
C-Man73 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 54	Yes.

04-08-2015, 07:48 PM	#23
JasonC23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Huntley, IL Posts: 898	Just downloaded the Mac patch from today and started a standard game--rosters are fine for me.

04-08-2015, 09:12 PM	#26
C-Man73 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 54	Downloaded 16.2 again and then downloaded 16.3 and patched it over and that worked. Thanks for all the help.

04-08-2015, 10:17 PM	#27
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Any way to get the logo from the installer back? The blue/red/baseball icon doesn't fit the Dock like the baseball only icon did.

04-09-2015, 12:19 AM	#31
mdthomp24 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 62	So i downloaded the new patch and started a new quick start....the Kimbrel trade is there, but the Opening Day Rosters are still in correct. Is this how its supposed to be? Maybe I misunderstood something along the way?

04-09-2015, 12:54 AM	#32
mdthomp24 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 62	I downloaded the game directly from the site, and I have build 16.3.16. Any help would be appreciated. Im dying to start playing, lol.

04-09-2015, 01:48 AM	#34
mdthomp24 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 62	ugh, ohh ok. I've spent the last couple hours re-downloading everything and trying to get Opening Day Rosters...thats kind of disappointing. I can fix it myself, but they likely won't be where they should be. I haven't mastered all the nuances to editing stuff in the game yet.