question for those with jobs - Page 2

nebradska · 07-27-2014, 04:15 PM

This weirdly, and pleasantly, turned into a kind of "get to know the community" thread.

I'm 25 and single, like the OP, but I'm a third year medical student and the only protection of my time is they can't make us work more than 80 hours a week. You really do have to sacrifice something else to make time for OOTP and I don't make that decision every time, but occasionally it's well worth it.

dave1927p · 07-27-2014, 04:21 PM

I work about 55 hour weeks and have cut it back to around 48 recently. I don't have time for any games during the workweek and If I had kids I would have no time at all for any sort of games. We need to enjoy it while we can.

The Wolf · 07-27-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Failing this, and most of us do.

But don't fail at it. You will never make any serious money working for someone else. Get a degree that allows you to start your own business easily (engineering, accounting, geology, construction management, etc), get the experience and knowledge you need to have in order to run your own business by working for others after you graduate, and then jump out on your own as soon as you have it and never look back. Don't be a wage slave; be your own boss.

As football legend Wade Phillips unused to say, "Unless you're the lead sled dog, the view never changes."

Tram2Whitaker · 07-27-2014, 10:57 PM

If you have no other games to compete with, you should still have plenty of time.

I have a full time job, and 3 kids. I only work 5 days a week, the kids are in bed at 8, the wife by 9:30; that gives me an hour each night. If I have a weekday off, the kids are at school, and the wife at work; gives me 8 more hours (if I decide to dedicate that much time). Truth is, I have about 12 hours per week totally to myself; I don't spend nearly all of that on games, but imagine if I had to divide that time between 3 or 4 games, as well as other hobbies.

Rockfan616 · 07-28-2014, 02:09 AM

I have a full time job but I work nights, so I'm up late anyway....I work from 2-10pm and play OOTP when I come home from work normally. I'm up until around 4am most nights anyway so why not?? I'm not married and no kids either so it's easier for me to do this.

Lukas Berger · 07-28-2014, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockfan616

I'm not married and no kids either so it's easier for me to do this.

Same here. If I was married and/or had kids there's no way I could do everything I do with the roster and beta team unless Markus was to hire me and I could quit my regular job. That's not even including the actual playing of the game, which I don't always have time for now...

toxicavenger74 · 07-28-2014, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Then when you turn 40 you will realize that the Business of Life is a bunch of crap. At that point, you will realize that you can play video games as much as you like.

But for the next 20 years get out there and rock...and roll the bones.

This.

DFyvie · 07-28-2014, 05:53 AM

I'm married with a new-born and a full-time job (soon to be stay-at-home dad). Before I would play 2 hours a night and all weekend.. now it's every other weeknight for about 45 minutes to an hour and maybe a few hours on the weekend. The benefit is that you can play this game while away from it (deciding on next years pitching rotation, thinking of your organisational depth a second base, etc). On a good night - I can play out a series (3 games).. on a bad night I never get around to seeing my Manager screen. I still fall asleep thinking about my rookies, and wake-up in the morning thinking about my line-up changes. The game is crack.

DreamTeams · 07-28-2014, 06:04 AM

First, marry well. That's it. The rest will fall into place.

MarkInCincy · 07-28-2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamTeams

First, marry well. That's it. The rest will fall into place.

If marriage was baseball, I was 0-2 and hit a HR on the next pitch

ThatSeventiesGuy · 07-28-2014, 12:00 PM

I only work temp jobs at the moment, my girl's in the Navy now, 800 miles away, and I STILL can't find the time to actually play the games, just sim about 95% of 'em. I honestly don't see how people do it.

Of course, my OCD tendency to have/make actual uniforms, logos, etc. and have real rosters for historical teams might have something to do with that.

Gambo · 07-28-2014, 02:40 PM

I'm late 30s with 3 kids under 6 and work full time. Honestly, I find a lot less time than I used to. But you work it in when you have the chance. Gaming is my wind down time, generally a few hours when the house is quiet. Part of the reason I don't do nearly as much modding as I used to.

jpeters1734 · 07-28-2014, 02:54 PM

You will find time. I'm married with 2 little ones and I still manage to play a lot. I do spend a lot less time on other things like tv and ps4. OOTP has also replaced fantasy baseball for me.

Déjà Bru · 07-28-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Then when you turn 40 you will realize that the Business of Life is a bunch of crap. At that point, you will realize that you can play video games as much as you like.

But for the next 20 years get out there and rock...and roll the bones.

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Originally Posted by toxicavenger74

This.

I don't know what planet you guys are from - probably cohabitants with The Wolf who wants everyone to be independent business owners which, when you think of it, would mean millions of companies of one employee each - but it seems to me that people don't retire at 40 much. The don't retire as much at 60 as much anymore, either. You don't do that young guy (OP) a service mouthing macho platitudes like this.

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

You will find time. I'm married with 2 little ones and I still manage to play a lot. I do spend a lot less time on other things like tv and ps4. OOTP has also replaced fantasy baseball for me.

However, this is also true. After taking care of business, there's always some time for fun . . . unless you are a maniac. Business first, though, then fun. You don't want to be one of those 34-year-old parents' basement-living dudes, now do you?

Hockey13Playa · 07-28-2014, 03:19 PM

This thread is depressing.

Déjà Bru · 07-28-2014, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa

This thread is depressing.

True. Life can be that way sometimes, especially if you don't take care of what is important. Telling somebody that it's OK to party all the time, or whatever those guys were advocating, is not right. Life can be a lot of fun and games as long as one realizes that it's not all fun and games.

OP seemed to want to know how we balance playing OOTPB (and presumably other pursuits of happiness) with the requirements of life. It can be done; some people (children, retired folks) have more time for playing and some less (working folks) but we all enjoy playing OOTPB to some extent. As others have said, make time for it! You'll be glad you did.

But telling OP "Become your own boss. Then do whatever the Hell you want" and "when you turn 40 you will realize that the Business of Life is a bunch of crap. At that point, you will realize that you can play video games as much as you like" is nonsense and teaches him nothing. He wanted sound advice and I gave him some. It's the father in me.

JohnHoward · 07-28-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballLife322

my question is.. for those that have a full time job and a family of their own, how do you guys find a good amount of time to play OOTP? I've just been thinking about this lately because I'm applying for a full time job soon, and I'm just thinking how am i gonna fit OOTP in lol.

I got a divorce.

jpeters1734 · 07-28-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

True. Life can be that way sometimes, especially if you don't take care of what is important. Telling somebody that it's OK to party all the time, or whatever those guys were advocating, is not right. Life can be a lot of fun and games as long as one realizes that it's not all fun and games.

OP seemed to want to know how we balance playing OOTPB (and presumably other pursuits of happiness) with the requirements of life. It can be done; some people (children, retired folks) have more time for playing and some less (working folks) but we all enjoy playing OOTPB to some extent. As others have said, make time for it! You'll be glad you did.

But telling OP "Become your own boss. Then do whatever the Hell you want" and "when you turn 40 you will realize that the Business of Life is a bunch of crap. At that point, you will realize that you can play video games as much as you like" is nonsense and teaches him nothing. He wanted sound advice and I gave him some. It's the father in me.

good call

Westheim · 07-28-2014, 05:49 PM

I'm 28 at been working full time for seven years now. As much fun as gaming is, earning your own money and not being a burden to society comes first. I have always been gaming excessively, and have not stopped after starting to work. OOTP combines especially well with watching TV (although I can't stand TV anymore) or a baseball game. Or eating.

Most of the time I have no trouble to play out a week's worth of games in OOTP (something around three hours) in the evening.

Then again, though, I don't find joy in anything else, I don't read books, I don't have pets, and I don't have any friends, and I'm a hideous, ugly little troll that nobody could ever fall in love with, not even if I had any money.

So, well, yeah. Maybe you should post all your other interests and a few pictures of you so we can better gauge whether you should call a hit-and-run on marriage or rather play it safe and start your own fictional dynasty in OOTP.

The Wolf · 07-28-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I don't know what planet you guys are from - probably cohabitants with The Wolf who wants everyone to be independent business owners which, when you think of it, would mean millions of companies of one employee each - but it seems to me that people don't retire at 40 much. The don't retire as much at 60 as much anymore, either. You don't do that young guy (OP) a service mouthing macho platitudes like this.

However, this is also true. After taking care of business, there's always some time for fun . . . unless you are a maniac. Business first, though, then fun. You don't want to be one of those 34-year-old parents' basement-living dudes, now do you?

If I wasn't doing the work, it would go to one or more large corporations, who would charge more to do it while doing it not quite as well. If you prefer a world of only large corporations, in which I "knew my place" and worked for one, that's fine. But I don't.

There is an alternative in America (and in Germany, hello Markus) to being an employee. Too few people realize that.

07-27-2014, 04:21 PM	#22
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,906	I work about 55 hour weeks and have cut it back to around 48 recently. I don't have time for any games during the workweek and If I had kids I would have no time at all for any sort of games. We need to enjoy it while we can. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence? Last edited by dave1927p; 07-27-2014 at 04:22 PM.

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Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	If you have no other games to compete with, you should still have plenty of time. I have a full time job, and 3 kids. I only work 5 days a week, the kids are in bed at 8, the wife by 9:30; that gives me an hour each night. If I have a weekday off, the kids are at school, and the wife at work; gives me 8 more hours (if I decide to dedicate that much time). Truth is, I have about 12 hours per week totally to myself; I don't spend nearly all of that on games, but imagine if I had to divide that time between 3 or 4 games, as well as other hobbies. __________________ 404'd!

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ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	I only work temp jobs at the moment, my girl's in the Navy now, 800 miles away, and I STILL can't find the time to actually play the games, just sim about 95% of 'em. I honestly don't see how people do it. Of course, my OCD tendency to have/make actual uniforms, logos, etc. and have real rosters for historical teams might have something to do with that. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1 Last edited by ThatSeventiesGuy; 07-28-2014 at 03:26 PM.

07-28-2014, 02:40 PM	#32
Gambo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,388	I'm late 30s with 3 kids under 6 and work full time. Honestly, I find a lot less time than I used to. But you work it in when you have the chance. Gaming is my wind down time, generally a few hours when the house is quiet. Part of the reason I don't do nearly as much modding as I used to. __________________ *Give me league evolution with historical imports!!!* OOTP MODS: Historical Face Gen Project, Spritze/Gambo Database, OOTP Stadium Chart and Ballpark Images, MLB Compiled Uniform & Logo Pack available at... http://www.ootpmods.com

07-27-2014, 04:15 PM	#21
nebradska Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 229	This weirdly, and pleasantly, turned into a kind of "get to know the community" thread. I'm 25 and single, like the OP, but I'm a third year medical student and the only protection of my time is they can't make us work more than 80 hours a week. You really do have to sacrifice something else to make time for OOTP and I don't make that decision every time, but occasionally it's well worth it.

07-28-2014, 02:09 AM	#25
Rockfan616 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 275	I have a full time job but I work nights, so I'm up late anyway....I work from 2-10pm and play OOTP when I come home from work normally. I'm up until around 4am most nights anyway so why not?? I'm not married and no kids either so it's easier for me to do this.

07-28-2014, 05:53 AM	#28
DFyvie Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 387	I'm married with a new-born and a full-time job (soon to be stay-at-home dad). Before I would play 2 hours a night and all weekend.. now it's every other weeknight for about 45 minutes to an hour and maybe a few hours on the weekend. The benefit is that you can play this game while away from it (deciding on next years pitching rotation, thinking of your organisational depth a second base, etc). On a good night - I can play out a series (3 games).. on a bad night I never get around to seeing my Manager screen. I still fall asleep thinking about my rookies, and wake-up in the morning thinking about my line-up changes. The game is crack.

07-28-2014, 02:54 PM	#33
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,221	You will find time. I'm married with 2 little ones and I still manage to play a lot. I do spend a lot less time on other things like tv and ps4. OOTP has also replaced fantasy baseball for me.

07-28-2014, 03:19 PM	#35
Hockey13Playa Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,670	This thread is depressing. __________________ FHM NHL Complete Historical Jerseys & Logos

07-28-2014, 05:49 PM	#39
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,769	I'm 28 at been working full time for seven years now. As much fun as gaming is, earning your own money and not being a burden to society comes first. I have always been gaming excessively, and have not stopped after starting to work. OOTP combines especially well with watching TV (although I can't stand TV anymore) or a baseball game. Or eating. Most of the time I have no trouble to play out a week's worth of games in OOTP (something around three hours) in the evening. Then again, though, I don't find joy in anything else, I don't read books, I don't have pets, and I don't have any friends, and I'm a hideous, ugly little troll that nobody could ever fall in love with, not even if I had any money. So, well, yeah. Maybe you should post all your other interests and a few pictures of you so we can better gauge whether you should call a hit-and-run on marriage or rather play it safe and start your own fictional dynasty in OOTP. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.