Good argument for the mercy rule

joefromchicago · 06-06-2013, 09:48 PM

Granted, this was in an 1872 game, where lots of runs and errors are to be expected. But still ...

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Poor Harold Ochterlony committed 13 of New York's 31 errors, but he had an excuse: he was a catcher without any rating at short playing that position, presumably because of injuries. He ended up playing four games at shortstop during the season and registered 29 errors in 35 total chances for a fielding average of .171 - quite possibly the worst fielding average ever recorded in human history. It was left to outfielder Bill Penniman to pitch the final one-and-two-thirds innings.

Brooklyn, meanwhile, had 31 hits, only three of which were for extra bases, and ten walks. Brooklyn's wily manager lifted his starting pitcher for a pinch-hitter in the seventh when his team was only leading 26-13 (they proceeded to score ten runs with two outs in that inning).

I wonder if any of the 837 New York fans were still in the ballpark when the game ended over four hours after the first pitch. If I were them, I would have demanded my quarter back.

da commish · 06-06-2013, 10:19 PM

I like the stats of Chisolm, the Brooklyn catcher: 0 for 7 but scored 6 times.

rudel.dietrich · 06-06-2013, 10:28 PM

One player had 13 errors?

r0nster · 06-06-2013, 11:11 PM

I love the oddities in the game

those are the ones to keep a hard copy of the game.

JMDurron · 06-06-2013, 11:28 PM

Mr. Cassel is probably not terribly happy with his defense behind him.

tejdog1 · 06-07-2013, 11:08 AM

Jeeze

Bluenoser · 06-07-2013, 11:35 AM

That's making the most of your hits and opponents errors, 51 runs on 31 hits n 31 errors.

39 unearned runs - egads

Painmantle · 06-07-2013, 11:48 AM

I think the most telling stat is a 9 inning game that takes 4 hours and 21 minutes

How many of those 837 people were still there at the end?

Charlie Hough · 06-07-2013, 12:08 PM

Cassel gives up 21 runs in 4 innings, but none of them were earned. That's almost impossible to believe. I guess this is another reason why I've never bothered to play seasons before 1901.

joefromchicago · 06-07-2013, 12:51 PM

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HAROLD OCHTERLONY - NY HAWKS

"I got it! I got it! ... I ain't got it."

Mr. Baseball · 06-14-2013, 03:14 AM

I'm not sure which is more impressive. The amount of runs scored itself, or the fact that none of the 51 runs were homers.

You must be using some adjustment for the dead ball era I take it?

joefromchicago · 06-14-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

You must be using some adjustment for the dead ball era I take it?

1872 settings. No homers, few walks, lotsa' singles.

Bluenoser · 06-14-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joefromchicago

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HAROLD OCHTERLONY - NY HAWKS

"I got it! I got it! ... I ain't got it."

Distant relative of Bill Buckner?

Le Grande Orange · 06-14-2013, 01:55 PM

Tacoma beat Colorado Springs 25-6 back on May 29th of this year in a Pacific Coast League game. Here's the box score.

Bluenoser · 06-14-2013, 01:58 PM

I was messing with my league totals modifiers one time with a test league. I wanted to adjust hits % from .950 down to .900, only I accidently put 9.000.

I simmed a week and looked at the box-scores they were all like 52 - 46 or 48 - 31 scores. That was when I realized the mistake. Made me laugh

Shoulda seen the record book for 6 hits in a game.

06-06-2013, 09:48 PM	#1
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,726	Good argument for the mercy rule Granted, this was in an 1872 game, where lots of runs and errors are to be expected. But still ... Poor Harold Ochterlony committed 13 of New York's 31 errors, but he had an excuse: he was a catcher without any rating at short playing that position, presumably because of injuries. He ended up playing four games at shortstop during the season and registered 29 errors in 35 total chances for a fielding average of .171 - quite possibly the worst fielding average ever recorded in human history. It was left to outfielder Bill Penniman to pitch the final one-and-two-thirds innings. Brooklyn, meanwhile, had 31 hits, only three of which were for extra bases, and ten walks. Brooklyn's wily manager lifted his starting pitcher for a pinch-hitter in the seventh when his team was only leading 26-13 (they proceeded to score ten runs with two outs in that inning). I wonder if any of the 837 New York fans were still in the ballpark when the game ended over four hours after the first pitch. If I were them, I would have demanded my quarter back. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

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Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,496	That's making the most of your hits and opponents errors, 51 runs on 31 hits n 31 errors. 39 unearned runs - egads Last edited by Bluenoser; 06-07-2013 at 11:37 AM.

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Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	I think the most telling stat is a 9 inning game that takes 4 hours and 21 minutes How many of those 837 people were still there at the end? __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

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joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,726	HAROLD OCHTERLONY - NY HAWKS "I got it! I got it! ... I ain't got it." __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

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da commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 556	I like the stats of Chisolm, the Brooklyn catcher: 0 for 7 but scored 6 times.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	One player had 13 errors?

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r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	I love the oddities in the game those are the ones to keep a hard copy of the game.

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JMDurron All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,260	Mr. Cassel is probably not terribly happy with his defense behind him.

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Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,644	Cassel gives up 21 runs in 4 innings, but none of them were earned. That's almost impossible to believe. I guess this is another reason why I've never bothered to play seasons before 1901.

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Mr. Baseball All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mequon, Wisconsin Posts: 1,020	I'm not sure which is more impressive. The amount of runs scored itself, or the fact that none of the 51 runs were homers. You must be using some adjustment for the dead ball era I take it? __________________ Duluth Danger (HBL) Dynasty Report -- Online League Franchise Duluth - 1985/1989 North League Champions! Last edited by Mr. Baseball; 06-14-2013 at 03:16 AM.

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Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,642	Tacoma beat Colorado Springs 25-6 back on May 29th of this year in a Pacific Coast League game. Here's the box score.

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Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,496	I was messing with my league totals modifiers one time with a test league. I wanted to adjust hits % from .950 down to .900, only I accidently put 9.000. I simmed a week and looked at the box-scores they were all like 52 - 46 or 48 - 31 scores. That was when I realized the mistake. Made me laugh Shoulda seen the record book for 6 hits in a game. Last edited by Bluenoser; 06-14-2013 at 01:59 PM.