I didn't like the results of 3 innings so I'm done with this game

Ahil6 · 05-12-2013, 08:59 AM

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

r0nster · 05-12-2013, 09:04 AM

Verlander as you know has had his share of BAD to horrible games in real life. He has a few games to his credit where no strikeouts to perhaps one strikeout .... the most recent example of this would be the all-star game. He gave up something like 4 to 6 runs and I do not recall a strikeout. As you know some good and bad players have some career years and or a year that nothing goes right and yes Verlander had that kind of year as well where he couldnt buy a win.

Wouldnt critize the game over one simulated game. This game is really a remarkable game. I am impressed with what this game can do.

VanillaGorilla · 05-12-2013, 09:25 AM

That is so wrong. Don't mind the people here who talk jibberish about 'sample size'. It's always the same thing from them.

Still, I'd just sim through Mother's Day. If, by then, he is only one game over .500 and has zero complete games in 8 starts you will know for sure that the game is a waste of money and that you are fully entitled to a refund because of the completely bogus output.

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 05-12-2013, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

That is so wrong. Don't mind the people here who talk jibberish about 'sample size'. It's always the same thing from them.

Still, I'd just sim through Mother's Day. If, by then, he is only one game over .500 and has zero complete games in 8 starts you will know for sure that the game is a waste of money and that you are fully entitled to a refund because of the completely bogus output.

I see what you did there.

Tyler87898 · 05-12-2013, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahil6

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

You really can't judge the game over just one start! Give it some time.

Sweed · 05-12-2013, 10:08 AM

Took 5 minutes to find this box score at baseballreference August 26, 2006 Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com.

Check out Verlander's line for Detroit..

For those that don't click the link ..

4.2 IP, 10 H, 8 R, 8 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

Looks like Ahil6 has a point. With no K's he may want to adjust his league total modifiers

More unrealistic stats..

October 24, 2012 World Series Game 1, Tigers at Giants - Baseball-Reference.com
Game one world series.. 5 ER 4 innings

September 8, 2012 Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com
6 er, 6 innings, 3 k

June 22, 2010 Detroit Tigers at New York Mets Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com
2 IP, 5 ER, 3 BB, 2 k

Shall I go on?

Simmo13 · 05-12-2013, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahil6

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

There was a Verlander game last year where he gave up 12 hits and 8 earned in 5+innings (v K.C.).......

sjam613 · 05-12-2013, 10:18 AM

Try Up, Up, Left, Right, Down, Up, Down, Up for god mode.......I kid, I kid.

Craig Scarborough · 05-12-2013, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahil6

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

Yeah man, you should be able to take Verlander's stats from last year and divide it by the number of starts. That's what he should do every day otherwise this game is the stink. Sue everyone!

The Wolf · 05-12-2013, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahil6

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

Internet trolls are so cute.

Here, use these links to educate yourself. No charge.

Sample Size | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

Baseball Prospectus | Baseball Therapy: It's a Small Sample Size After All

Regulars: these articles might even interest you.

The Wolf · 05-12-2013, 10:54 AM

Also

Statistically Speaking | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » 525,600 minutes: How do you measure a player in a year?

Statistically Speaking | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » On the reliability of pitching stats

The Wolf · 05-12-2013, 11:09 AM

And you regulars should read this one:

Evaluating Pitcher Talent

MizzouRah · 05-12-2013, 11:19 AM

Maybe mogul is more his speed.

boshk · 05-12-2013, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahil6

Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings.
That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.

you do know he didnt pitch all that well IRL that game, right? twins were in that game all day. also, its the first game of the season, **** happens.

edit: down with censorship!

RchW · 05-12-2013, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizzourah

maybe mogul is more his speed.

aka pebkac?

GiantYankee · 05-12-2013, 11:28 AM

Can someone tell me where to click so I can block trolls? They seem to be jumping up from under the bridge more and more these days.

boshk · 05-12-2013, 11:30 AM

but this is a good example as to why i use ootp to play fictional leagues, you do not have to compare real life to a computer game. i remember in i think NHL 98, eric lindros had over 300 goals in one season. and i won every game with like 60 goals... its a video game.

though i did retire my fictional/historical player league. i was looking forward to getting to see players in the last 10-20 years, but i just dont have the time to continue it.

Sweed · 05-12-2013, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boshk

but this is a good example as to why i use ootp to play fictional leagues, you do not have to compare real life to a computer game.

It is also a good example as to why one can use OOTP to play with real players. Only thing is the player in question has to have some understanding on how real life works

phenom · 05-12-2013, 11:44 AM

Tower or laptop?

boshk · 05-12-2013, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweed

It is also a good example as to why one can use OOTP to play with real players. Only thing is the player in question has to have some understanding on how real life works

i just mean that you do not have to worry about verlander starting the season 0-1

because Zalamnov Zipnitiopshov, Sly Bargain, Stanley Bostitch, etc are not real people.

05-12-2013, 08:59 AM	#1
Ahil6 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1	I didn't like the results of 3 innings so I'm done with this game Start first MLB league, simulating first game, Detroit vs Minnesota. Verlander has given up 8 runs with no strikeouts in 3 innings. That is just totally wrong, what a waste of money, if that the best "simulation" this software can do, I think I am done with buying any more versions.
	$Received Infraction$

05-12-2013, 10:18 AM	#8
sjam613 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Milford, CT Posts: 125	Try Up, Up, Left, Right, Down, Up, Down, Up for god mode.......I kid, I kid. __________________ Sjam613 on Twitter

05-12-2013, 11:30 AM	#17
boshk All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 532	but this is a good example as to why i use ootp to play fictional leagues, you do not have to compare real life to a computer game. i remember in i think NHL 98, eric lindros had over 300 goals in one season. and i won every game with like 60 goals... its a video game. though i did retire my fictional/historical player league. i was looking forward to getting to see players in the last 10-20 years, but i just dont have the time to continue it. Last edited by boshk; 05-12-2013 at 11:32 AM.

05-12-2013, 11:44 AM	#19
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	Tower or laptop? __________________ reported

05-12-2013, 09:04 AM	#2
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	Verlander as you know has had his share of BAD to horrible games in real life. He has a few games to his credit where no strikeouts to perhaps one strikeout .... the most recent example of this would be the all-star game. He gave up something like 4 to 6 runs and I do not recall a strikeout. As you know some good and bad players have some career years and or a year that nothing goes right and yes Verlander had that kind of year as well where he couldnt buy a win. Wouldnt critize the game over one simulated game. This game is really a remarkable game. I am impressed with what this game can do.

05-12-2013, 09:25 AM	#3
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	That is so wrong. Don't mind the people here who talk jibberish about 'sample size'. It's always the same thing from them. Still, I'd just sim through Mother's Day. If, by then, he is only one game over .500 and has zero complete games in 8 starts you will know for sure that the game is a waste of money and that you are fully entitled to a refund because of the completely bogus output.

05-12-2013, 10:08 AM	#6
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 7,082	Took 5 minutes to find this box score at baseballreference August 26, 2006 Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com. Check out Verlander's line for Detroit.. For those that don't click the link .. 4.2 IP, 10 H, 8 R, 8 ER, 1 BB, 6 K Looks like Ahil6 has a point. With no K's he may want to adjust his league total modifiers More unrealistic stats.. October 24, 2012 World Series Game 1, Tigers at Giants - Baseball-Reference.com Game one world series.. 5 ER 4 innings September 8, 2012 Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com 6 er, 6 innings, 3 k June 22, 2010 Detroit Tigers at New York Mets Play by Play and Box Score - Baseball-Reference.com 2 IP, 5 ER, 3 BB, 2 k Shall I go on?

05-12-2013, 11:19 AM	#13
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	Maybe mogul is more his speed.

05-12-2013, 11:28 AM	#16
GiantYankee All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,105	Can someone tell me where to click so I can block trolls? They seem to be jumping up from under the bridge more and more these days.