Very Disappointed/In-game sub AI

[kackle85]

Thanks Markus, the way you guys listen to the community and support this game is truly appreciated.

[Cowboys3356]

This post also touches on another major issue which is that a player who plays their entire career at one position suddenly has NO rating at that position anymore. I understand that certain positions such as middle infield can decline over time but to say that a guy can suddenly not even carry a 1 rating in a position they played their whole life seems off. The drop off just seems a little too dramatic in my opinion.

Love OOTP just wishing this part was slightly different.

[Pacoheadley]

Since this has to do with subbing, do the game's managers pay attention to hitting streaks at all? In my game, in the 1st year, Shin-Soo Choo was on a 33 game hitting streak, and he lost it because he struck out pinch hitting in the bottom of the 8th inning.

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Pacoheadley

Since this has to do with subbing, do the game's managers pay attention to hitting streaks at all? In my game, in the 1st year, Shin-Soo Choo was on a 33 game hitting streak, and he lost it because he struck out pinch hitting in the bottom of the 8th inning.

I highly doubt managers IRL pay any attention to it at all.

[Pacoheadley]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

I highly doubt managers IRL pay any attention to it at all.

Can you seriously see a real life manager pinch hitting in a player with a 33 game hitting streak?

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Pacoheadley

Can you seriously see a real life manager pinch hitting in a player with a 33 game hitting streak?

I know it might come as a shock to people but I'm generally of the mind managers don't pay much attention to single achievements. That is almost entirely on the business/public relations side of things.

[Pacoheadley]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

I know it might come as a shock to people but I'm generally of the mind managers don't pay much attention to single achievements. That is almost entirely on the business/public relations side of things.

That's what would make sense, but I don't think any real life manager would do that because of the **** storm that would arise afterwords. I could see it happening at maybe 20, but at 33? No way.

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Pacoheadley

That's what would make sense, but I don't think any real life manager would do that because of the **** storm that would arise afterwords. I could see it happening at maybe 20, but at 33? No way.

If it meant winning a game you bet your ass they would.

[reds1869]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

If it meant winning a game you bet your ass they would.

Depends on the manager. Dusty Baker would never do such a thing. Joe Maddon would. There are as many different styles of management as there are managers.

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by reds1869

Depends on the manager. Dusty Baker would never do such a thing. Joe Maddon would. There are as many different styles of management as there are managers.

Well ya got me there.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

If it meant winning a game you bet your ass they would.

Along that line, hell, I would want a guy with a 33-game hitting streak in the lineup!

That said, I would think that a "player's" manager would not pinch-hit the guy unless the guy were an old-school player and agreed he needed a day off and made it clear he didn't care about the streak if his services were needed as a PH.

Different sport and different scenario, but in pro hoops earlier this season, Doc Rivers re-inserted Rajon Rondo late into a blowout just so Rondo could get an assist or two to keep his 10+ streak alive.

[JC769]

It seems that while yes, Cano was available to play 2B, even if he wasn't and Molina was the only one available - shouldn't he have been inserted to play 2B and Wong moved to SS?

On another "sub" note, just out of curiosity, if an injury happens in the field on the third out or happens on a batter/running being out and thus not being on the field, why do you have to make a sub instantly?

In the top of the 8th inning of a 3-3 game, your second basemen gets injured throwing to first base on the third out of the inning. He is due up to bat leadoff in the 8th and the other team has a lefty on the mound. If he cannot bat I'd rather bring in a RH PH and then use my backup second basemen who bats left handed for defensive reasons when I go back on the field.

Should I just chalk this up to "The game just only recognizes injury - not situation of the injury"?

[RchW]

Great stuff. Even though I criticize the game, I figured that the complexity of these lineup decisions is high and it is tough to account for all the variables. Things like this may not be flashy new features but the AI gets better every version which is one of the reasons I buy every version.