OOTP 13 - Discussion of the new Features & Screenshots... - Page 12

Jontler · 01-22-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ktulu

It's not always a question of "difficulty" more often than not its a question of time.

This is another way of saying "it's not a priority for us". I get that, but just be straightforward. It's persistent bugs like this that stop many of my online leagues from pre-ordering and converting. It jades us.

Ktulu · 01-22-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jontler

This is another way of saying "it's not a priority for us". I get that, but just be straightforward. It's persistent bugs like this that stop many of my online leagues from pre-ordering and converting. It jades us.

Everything gets prioritized, that should be obvious. Like it or not Markus is one man and he has to divide his time between fixing issues (of which there are hundreds of varying degrees of seriousness) and coding new features so that people will be interested in the next version.

It's not that Markus doesn't care about the problem as you imply ("it's not a priority for us"), he just can't fix everything at once. No matter what he does someone will be pissed off because their pet issue isn't fixed.

BlitzburghBucco · 01-22-2012, 05:57 PM

Will owners be facegenned in suits or are they still going to be in uniforms? OOTP 12 was supposed to have it, but never made it in.

Spindel · 01-22-2012, 06:34 PM

Oh yeah, suits would be so cool. And manager baseball cards too with w-l record, etc.

olivertheorem · 01-22-2012, 06:50 PM

I am very much looking forward to pre-ordering, just as soon as I'm sure I can swing the $35 between bills and baby expenses. I already know exactly what I'm going to do with the associations.

Cornelius McGillicuddy · 01-22-2012, 06:59 PM

And after going back and forth, I'm also going to preorder when I get my next ss check. Mostly interested in some of the core features being improved and still thankful for the pbp save feature in ver12.

Jontler · 01-22-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ktulu

Everything gets prioritized, that should be obvious. Like it or not Markus is one man and he has to divide his time between fixing issues (of which there are hundreds of varying degrees of seriousness) and coding new features so that people will be interested in the next version.

It's not that Markus doesn't care about the problem as you imply ("it's not a priority for us"), he just can't fix everything at once. No matter what he does someone will be pissed off because their pet issue isn't fixed.

Make no mistake, I meant no maliciousness. I perfectly well understand that some issues are more important than others, and to say that something is not a priority for the dev team is not the same thing as saying that the dev team does not care. Please don't assume that I believe that because an issue is not addressed, the dev team doesn't care about it.

The player sorting bug is clearly not a priority, though, or it would've already been fixed. Other issues take priority over it. I get that. And that's fine.

LeiterFanatic · 01-22-2012, 09:17 PM

The blue and the Bars below the player values remind me of OOTP4, and that is a GOOD thing!

hfield007 · 01-22-2012, 11:54 PM

Still waiting for an answer on this

If I have a tournament with league champions inside my association after their respective seasons do any stats accumuklated get added to the players post season stats in their history?

Markus Heinsohn · 01-23-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jontler

It's possible we have different definitions of "run environment". I'm referring to the necessary calculations to properly determine wOBA, for starters.

Yes, that is true. The co-efficients in wOBA are not adjusted in OOTP, they are hard coded. That does not apply to all the other stats though, like WAR or VORP, they use proper league averages.

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Set your league to use anything but 1-250 ratings. Go to the player search screen. Sort by contact in all batters. If you choose 1-10, for example, the very best '10' will be at the top, and they'll be sorted in order after that - thus removing the ambiguity of non 1-250 ratings in the first place.

The most egregrious thing here is that, in a talent-only league, you can still sort by actual ratings. It doesn't show the ratings, but it sorts properly. The best players are listed at the top.

This is a trivially easy bug to fix. When sorting by ratings or potential, sort the individual tiers (10s, 9s, etc) alphabetically instead of by ratings.

Ah, that one. Yes, that is fixed in OOTP 13.

Markus Heinsohn · 01-23-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spindel

Any chance of H2H?

*lol*

Markus Heinsohn · 01-23-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hfield007

Still waiting for an answer on this

If I have a tournament with league champions inside my association after their respective seasons do any stats accumuklated get added to the players post season stats in their history?

Not sure. Should they be added to the postseason stats of players? It's easy to do.

Markus Heinsohn · 01-23-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jontler

The player sorting bug is clearly not a priority, though, or it would've already been fixed. Other issues take priority over it. I get that. And that's fine.

Actually it was a priority. But sometimes I want to fix something, and simply forget about it because I forgot to mark it properly in the bug database. I'm no machine and thus imperfect

Markus Heinsohn · 01-23-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BlitzburghBucco

Will owners be facegenned in suits or are they still going to be in uniforms? OOTP 12 was supposed to have it, but never made it in.

Uniforms. I like it that way to be honest.

hfield007 · 01-23-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Not sure. Should they be added to the postseason stats of players? It's easy to do.

I'm not sure how others feel but I am hoping it doesn't get mixed. It would be like the MLB counting WBC stats toward a players totals or something.

kq76 · 01-23-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jontler

The player sorting bug is clearly not a priority, though, or it would've already been fixed. Other issues take priority over it. I get that. And that's fine.

I liked how it was. I can see how those who want fog of war would dislike it, but not everyone disliked it. 1-250, 1-10, 1-5, stats-only, everyone has their own preferences. That we might not be able to sort from best to worst, in an online league or a solo league, tiers or not, would frankly suck IMO. I'm sure it sucks for stats-only online leagues now though so obviously a drop-down of what kind of sorting you want to allow would be better.

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Uniforms. I like it that way to be honest.

How many owners have you seen in their team's jersey? I can only think of one (out of who knows how many): Mark Cuban. And Cuban's a clown if you ask me. Not that I think it's necessarily bad to have a clown owner or two (Bill Veeck certainly made the history of baseball more interesting), but I can't imagine (nor would I want to imagine) a world where all the owners in a league are clowns.

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Originally Posted by hfield007

I'm not sure how others feel but I am hoping it doesn't get mixed. It would be like the MLB counting WBC stats toward a players totals or something.

Not that I've ever really cared about post-season stats, but not adding them to post-season stats would also be like not counting the World Series stats to players' post-season stats. Again, I myself don't really care, but maybe there should be an association stats grouping (like the post-season and spring training groupings etc).

cephasjames · 01-23-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Not sure. Should they be added to the postseason stats of players? It's easy to do.

Yes, please.

Eephus Swift · 01-23-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hfield007

I'm not sure how others feel but I am hoping it doesn't get mixed. It would be like the MLB counting WBC stats toward a players totals or something.

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Originally Posted by kq76

Not that I've ever really cared about post-season stats, but not adding them to post-season stats would also be like not counting the World Series stats to players' post-season stats. Again, I myself don't really care, but maybe there should be an association stats grouping (like the post-season and spring training groupings etc).

I think Kieran's approach would solve the problem, if it's an easy addition.

BusterKing · 01-23-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Actually it was a priority. But sometimes I want to fix something, and simply forget about it because I forgot to mark it properly in the bug database. I'm no machine and thus imperfect

What are you talking about? YOU are the OOTP GOD!

silvam14 · 01-23-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Uniforms. I like it that way to be honest.

I think Owners/GMs having a suit with the team cap on is a nice compromise

01-22-2012, 06:34 PM	#224
Spindel All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 763	Oh yeah, suits would be so cool. And manager baseball cards too with w-l record, etc. __________________ Union League Baseball Commissioner

01-22-2012, 05:57 PM	#223
BlitzburghBucco Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Steel City Posts: 217	Will owners be facegenned in suits or are they still going to be in uniforms? OOTP 12 was supposed to have it, but never made it in.

01-22-2012, 06:50 PM	#225
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	I am very much looking forward to pre-ordering, just as soon as I'm sure I can swing the $35 between bills and baby expenses. I already know exactly what I'm going to do with the associations.

01-22-2012, 06:59 PM	#226
Cornelius McGillicuddy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Playing the inside game Posts: 763 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	And after going back and forth, I'm also going to preorder when I get my next ss check. Mostly interested in some of the core features being improved and still thankful for the pbp save feature in ver12.

01-22-2012, 09:17 PM	#228
LeiterFanatic All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,348	The blue and the Bars below the player values remind me of OOTP4, and that is a GOOD thing!

01-22-2012, 11:54 PM	#229
hfield007 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,713	Still waiting for an answer on this If I have a tournament with league champions inside my association after their respective seasons do any stats accumuklated get added to the players post season stats in their history?