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MizzouRah · 08-28-2011, 10:27 PM

Maybe I can go into the editor and give each team 10 million?

MizzouRah · 08-28-2011, 10:33 PM

This is my default financials.. importing the 2010 settings when I started.

Not sure why cash maximum is $1,420,000?

MizzouRah · 08-28-2011, 10:45 PM

This is really odd.. I loaded a MLB QS from v12 and these settings are much different than mine were for v11.

I'll change mine to match these and see if that fixes this issue.

robc · 08-28-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HH20xx convert

And the silence from Markus and Co is deafening. This is my big hot button issue, but other long-time customers have others--just peruse the message boards, yet not a word from OOTP as to whether these issues will be addressed in the last big patch. It takes very little time to compose a brief post, but apparently its too much time for the OOTP brain trust. Very disappointing, in my opinion.

The only way to improve your odds that the issue makes its way to Markus is to put in a support ticket. I have no idea what percentage of posts Markus reads on this forum, but my guess is that it is pretty low, specially while he is still in work mode.

MizzouRah · 08-28-2011, 11:58 PM

Good news!

I changed my settings to those listed above and gave each team $10 million in cash. Good FA's are now being snatched up and I hope from here on out, the financials will get back on track.

Time will tell...

PSUColonel · 08-29-2011, 12:41 AM

Is this problem only with version 11 imports?, or is it also with fictional leagues using 2011 financial settings?

Chicagofan76 · 08-29-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I'm seeing this in my first offseason with v12. I've never had this issue in v11.. so I'm thinking it has to do with the player development budget.

Anyone have a fix for this yet?

I'm on 11 and i have the issue but not sure if 450 FA's is natural or not.

Markus Heinsohn · 08-29-2011, 04:11 AM

We're looking into this. In my tests in OOTP 12-generated leagues this happened very rarely, not enough to be an issue. I am testing OOTP 11-imported leagues right now, maybe I can tweak the importer.

Markus Heinsohn · 08-29-2011, 04:27 AM

Okay, there was indeed an issue that caused imported OOTP 11 league to not have enough revenue in future seasons. It was okay for the first year if imported right at the beginning of the offseason, as advised. However, in subsequent years Teams were running out of money.

You can fix this stuff in your league right now. Simply increase the average local & national media contract by about 30% each and then either use the function to assign fictional financials to each team or edit teams manually to reflect the changes.

The next patch will fix the importer.

thbroman · 08-29-2011, 06:02 AM

Markus, do templates suffer from the same glitch? It wasn't just imorted leagues from OOTP11 that were having this problem, but it appeared to me that league templates were doing the same. At least, that's what I thought I was seeing.

rdomico · 08-29-2011, 07:41 AM

I never imported a ootp 11 league. It doesn't happen rarely in ootp 12. It happens all the time. It might not happen after the first year, but if you sim a few years, it will happen every time. You will see all-star calibar players that don't sign. Some will retire in the prime of their careers because of this.

MizzouRah · 08-29-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Okay, there was indeed an issue that caused imported OOTP 11 league to not have enough revenue in future seasons. It was okay for the first year if imported right at the beginning of the offseason, as advised. However, in subsequent years Teams were running out of money.

You can fix this stuff in your league right now. Simply increase the average local & national media contract by about 30% each and then either use the function to assign fictional financials to each team or edit teams manually to reflect the changes.

The next patch will fix the importer.

Markus, I did this already and gave each team $10 million - I'm assuming next offseason, this will now just fix itself since I changed the settings?

Thank you!

endgame · 08-29-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Markus, I did this already and gave each team $10 million - I'm assuming next offseason, this will now just fix itself since I changed the settings?

Thank you!

Admittedly, I'm a little confused about the caveat to "then either use the function to assign fictional financials to each team or edit teams manually to reflect the changes." I'm not certain just what the step entails in terms of effect. Is it just budget adjustments? I'd want to reflect the increase in 'team/league' related areas, but don't want to find salaries have been adjusted, etc... May run a test league to explore.

I'm sure Markus is right, but I'm just not catching the full implication of an additional step.

MizzouRah · 08-29-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by endgame

Admittedly, I'm a little confused about the caveat to "then either use the function to assign fictional financials to each team or edit teams manually to reflect the changes." I'm not certain just what the step entails in terms of effect. Is it just budget adjustments? I'd want to reflect the increase in 'team/league' related areas, but don't want to find salaries have been adjusted, etc... May run a test league to explore.

I'm sure Markus is right, but I'm just not catching the full implication of an additional step.

My belief is that it changes the teams budgets to reflect the changes that you made to what Markus is suggested, thus they now have more money to spend.

I changed the settings to match the 2nd screenshot I posted and then instead of using the "assign to fictional teams button" I just gave each team $10 million so the good FA's would start to get signed.

When this season is over, I would assume going forward, the financials would be fixed.

thbroman · 08-29-2011, 12:25 PM

Any comments about rdomico's claim that it's not just imported leagues that are having this problem?

Jav · 08-29-2011, 01:33 PM

I have also seen this issue in every league I have created in 12 no matter what financial settings I have tried. So it doesn't seem to just be imported leagues that have this problem.

luger · 08-29-2011, 03:51 PM

I agree. I have not imported any leagues but also encounter the problem every time. FWIW, I create a fictional universe and generally run from 2011 financials.

PSUColonel · 08-29-2011, 06:00 PM

Okay, so this is a problem with all leagues. I hope this gets fixed very soon, as I do not want to be fooling around with settings all of the time.

Nick0508 · 08-29-2011, 10:36 PM

In all seriousness, this is a game-breaker for me. There is no reason that the 27 year old defending MVP (Segura) should be sitting in the FA's at any point after the season starts. This league, and every league that I have ran, are generated from OOTP 12 and in 5-10 years have all-star caliber players waiting for teams to sign them in midseason.

MizzouRah · 08-29-2011, 10:53 PM

What do your financial settings look like? Are they the default MLB settings?

A temporary fix would be to give each team $10 million like I did, but I should be good to go from there as my financial settings were really jacked up.

08-29-2011, 04:11 AM	#48
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	We're looking into this. In my tests in OOTP 12-generated leagues this happened very rarely, not enough to be an issue. I am testing OOTP 11-imported leagues right now, maybe I can tweak the importer. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

08-29-2011, 04:27 AM	#49
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	Okay, there was indeed an issue that caused imported OOTP 11 league to not have enough revenue in future seasons. It was okay for the first year if imported right at the beginning of the offseason, as advised. However, in subsequent years Teams were running out of money. You can fix this stuff in your league right now. Simply increase the average local & national media contract by about 30% each and then either use the function to assign fictional financials to each team or edit teams manually to reflect the changes. The next patch will fix the importer. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

08-29-2011, 10:36 PM	#59
Nick0508 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 37	In all seriousness, this is a game-breaker for me. There is no reason that the 27 year old defending MVP (Segura) should be sitting in the FA's at any point after the season starts. This league, and every league that I have ran, are generated from OOTP 12 and in 5-10 years have all-star caliber players waiting for teams to sign them in midseason. Attached Images Last edited by Nick0508; 08-29-2011 at 10:41 PM.

08-28-2011, 10:27 PM	#41
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	Maybe I can go into the editor and give each team 10 million?

08-28-2011, 10:33 PM	#42
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	This is my default financials.. importing the 2010 settings when I started. Not sure why cash maximum is $1,420,000?

08-28-2011, 10:45 PM	#43
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	This is really odd.. I loaded a MLB QS from v12 and these settings are much different than mine were for v11. I'll change mine to match these and see if that fixes this issue.

08-28-2011, 11:58 PM	#45
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	Good news! I changed my settings to those listed above and gave each team $10 million in cash. Good FA's are now being snatched up and I hope from here on out, the financials will get back on track. Time will tell...

08-29-2011, 12:41 AM	#46
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	Is this problem only with version 11 imports?, or is it also with fictional leagues using 2011 financial settings?

08-29-2011, 06:02 AM	#50
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	Markus, do templates suffer from the same glitch? It wasn't just imorted leagues from OOTP11 that were having this problem, but it appeared to me that league templates were doing the same. At least, that's what I thought I was seeing.

08-29-2011, 07:41 AM	#51
rdomico All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Monaca, PA Posts: 829	I never imported a ootp 11 league. It doesn't happen rarely in ootp 12. It happens all the time. It might not happen after the first year, but if you sim a few years, it will happen every time. You will see all-star calibar players that don't sign. Some will retire in the prime of their careers because of this.

08-29-2011, 12:25 PM	#55
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	Any comments about rdomico's claim that it's not just imported leagues that are having this problem?

08-29-2011, 01:33 PM	#56
Jav Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 28	I have also seen this issue in every league I have created in 12 no matter what financial settings I have tried. So it doesn't seem to just be imported leagues that have this problem.

08-29-2011, 03:51 PM	#57
luger Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 221	I agree. I have not imported any leagues but also encounter the problem every time. FWIW, I create a fictional universe and generally run from 2011 financials.

08-29-2011, 06:00 PM	#58
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	Okay, so this is a problem with all leagues. I hope this gets fixed very soon, as I do not want to be fooling around with settings all of the time.

08-29-2011, 10:53 PM	#60
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	What do your financial settings look like? Are they the default MLB settings? A temporary fix would be to give each team $10 million like I did, but I should be good to go from there as my financial settings were really jacked up.