Wow - rookie league offense way out of wack

[gord]

Converted my OOTPX league in the offseason and I'm in the middle of my first season. Had my draft and everything went according to plan. Set up my rookie league rosters as usual and after the first day, I get this...

[NYY #23]

I don't know what else to say other than wow!

[Charlie Hough]

Obviously a league conversion and/or settings problem. This is why I would never attempt to convert a league from a past version of OOTP. I've never converted any leagues myself, but this seems to be one of the most common problem areas with each new release.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

Obviously a league conversion and/or settings problem. This is why I would never attempt to convert a league from a past version of OOTP. I've never converted any leagues myself, but this seems to be one of the most common problem areas with each new release.

I've converted my league from version 4 all the way to version 11 and never had any issues other than very minor stat fluctuation. Certainly nothing like the Gord has posted here. The key is to make a "test" copy of your imported league and then take 10 minutes to simulate a season. I ignore standings, individual stats, etc and go immediately to the reports and write down all stats needed to tweak league totals. Make my tweaks and then load my "playing" copy of my league and move on. In one hour I can have my MLB output stats within 1% of whats expected.

Minors I don't watch as closely but I haven't had to reset anything with them in either 9, 10, or now 11. Nothing has been totally out of line. There is also the setting for minor leagues that you can check that "helps" minor leagues perform near your target league total settings.

Yeah, something got hosed here in some way. Could be some corruption, league total issue, or maybe bad park data where that game was played (ie HR setting at 110.00 instead of 1.10?). Nothing that wouldn't have been caught with a quick test run of the league. Any of these are easily fixable and certainly not a reason to stay away from importing leagues into newer versions of the game.

[gord]

I went ahead and simmed to the next day just to see what would happen and the game has frozen up. Might just kill it and go back to the day after the draft and start anew and run some tests. I scanned through the league totals and modifiers and didn't notice anything really weird but I didn't look too hard.

[gpellis]

I laughed a lot at this. I know it sucks for you, but I found it pretty hilarious. Those guys need to learn how to pitch.

[MimesisBTG]

Originally Posted by gord

Converted my OOTPX league in the offseason and I'm in the middle of my first season. Had my draft and everything went according to plan. Set up my rookie league rosters as usual and after the first day, I get this...

I'm sorry that you are experiencing this problem, and I'm not sure that I can help. I hope that you are able to get it figured out though.

M. Yoshida sure did have a rough day for Danville

[ShermLollar]

Based on the number of homers, it must have been "Every Fan Gets A Baseball" Night!

[gord]

Not sure if this is connected, but from another issue I have (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...nto-draft.html) which means the draft pool might be missing some major players it is counting on. I've scanned through the feeder leagues and there are many over-aged players still in the league that haven't gotten to the draft.

[gord]

I looked a little harder at the HR modifiers and it seems that mine are off for all leagues, but drastically so at the bottom. The "league totals" are the same for all levels, but the modifiers are different:

Pioneer: 539.737
GCL: 516.181
Arizona: 296.973
Appy: 191.130
NW: 34.653
NYP: 56.543
Sally: 3.706
MW: 2.710
FSL: 3.086
CAR: 4.226
CAL: 2.979
TX: 1.279
SL: 1.236
EL: 1.566
PCL: 1.045
IL: 1.195
MLB: .816

Should I reset them all to 1.000? Or is there a better way to adjust?

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by gord

Pioneer: 539.737

The Pioneer League, now with 100 foot fences and aluminium bats!

[RchW]

Originally Posted by gord

I looked a little harder at the HR modifiers and it seems that mine are off for all leagues, but drastically so at the bottom. The "league totals" are the same for all levels, but the modifiers are different:

Pioneer: 539.737
GCL: 516.181
Arizona: 296.973
Appy: 191.130
NW: 34.653
NYP: 56.543
Sally: 3.706
MW: 2.710
FSL: 3.086
CAR: 4.226
CAL: 2.979
TX: 1.279
SL: 1.236
EL: 1.566
PCL: 1.045
IL: 1.195
MLB: .816

Should I reset them all to 1.000? Or is there a better way to adjust?

Set them to what your vX league was. Also do what Sweed suggested.

That definitely explains the home run issues.

[gord]

I guess this is my first import so I'm unfamiliar with these issues. Wish I had known to run a test year before I started. Oh well. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: Can I just import the leagues.csv file I exported or should I type in the modifiers myself?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by gord

I guess this is my first import so I'm unfamiliar with these issues. Wish I had known to run a test year before I started. Oh well. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: Can I just import the leagues.csv file I exported or should I type in the modifiers myself?

Type them in yourself. You should start a ticket in Tech support as this may be a bug.

FWIW my vX league imported fine and the first thing I checked was the LTM's.

Edit

Your vX league is still intact why don't you re-import then back it up or save as a template and run a couple of test seasons.

[DaveJstice]

You see, I'm actually having the opposite issues. I imported Cubby's Rosters for the '10 season from OOTPX to 11, and in my lower/rookie leagues I'm having hitters hit from .080 to .200 as a high, and pitchers just dominating. It seems that it's also affecting my hitter's development as well.

I'll try to post some screen shots later, but I have just the opposite problem. None of my A ball or rookie league players can hit at all.

[gord]

I have historically had the same problems. Rookie league teams routinely had ERAs below 3.00 and hitters were horrible. In one of the RTRs it said that draftees will be better coming out of the draft than before, but I'm not sure if the LTMs I have been using will allow for this. Does anyone know?

[BMW]

On a frivolous note, someone needs to fire J. Akers.

[gord]

I have gone back and checked the LTMs for my vX league and put them in the v11 league and the results are still crazy. I have the following modifiers for HRs in my vX league and the leaders in rookie league were at the most 15 across all four leagues:

APP: 86.938
AZ: 135.364
GCL: 225.882
PIO: 239.351

If I reset the LTMs all to 1.000 the totals are fine. Should I just stick with that?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by gord

I have gone back and checked the LTMs for my vX league and put them in the v11 league and the results are still crazy. I have the following modifiers for HRs in my vX league and the leaders in rookie league were at the most 15 across all four leagues:

APP: 86.938
AZ: 135.364
GCL: 225.882
PIO: 239.351

If I reset the LTMs all to 1.000 the totals are fine. Should I just stick with that?

Absolutely. May I ask how you got such weird LTM's in vX? Were your stats off in that league too? Sorry I gave you bad advice, but I can't imagine the LTM's being that high in any league.

[gord]

I honestly don't remember how they got that way. Maybe I used some custom LTMs? The stats in my vX leagues were fine, other than rookie leagues being pitching-dominant. I imported into v11 and that's when things went screwy. I noticed that the A-level HRs were really high but nothing like the rookie leagues.