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injury log · 04-13-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KySteveH

Nooo!!!....Please do not cave in to this foolishness requested by a few who don't understand opening day rosters. Otherwise, where do you stop?

Well, I know where we'd stop - with those guys who were on the waiver wire to start the year. The thing with those guys was they were sort of in limbo - they were waived and designated for assignment, and we can't replicate that in the file. Anything that happened after that, no chance we update in the file - if Jarrod Washburn signs somewhere next week, for example, we're not going to do anything about it.

Now all of that said, I'm 100% indifferent about moving those waived guys to their new teams - if most people wanted it, we can do it, but otherwise we'll likely leave things as is. It's easy enough to move those three players in commish mode anyway.

SlyBelle · 04-13-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KySteveH

Nooo!!!....Please do not cave in to this foolishness requested by a few who don't understand opening day rosters. Otherwise, where do you stop? The goal should be to have the correct players in the correct organizations (of as free agents) as of opening day. If you start making exceptions, you'll end up with people posting every day asking why the latest free agent pickup hasn't been reflected.

As you said, the Acosta thing happened pre-opening day, so it should be reflected.

I really agree with this. The opening day rosters should only reflect the day the season started. Those are the rosters I want to use and have been advertised (i.e. Opening Day Rosters). If other people want to keep them current, then they should do that on their own or at the very least please keep one set of purely opening day rosters and another that is modified as the season goes.

KySteveH · 04-13-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by injury log

Well, I know where we'd stop - with those guys who were on the waiver wire to start the year. The thing with those guys was they were sort of in limbo - they were waived and designated for assignment, and we can't replicate that in the file. Anything that happened after that, no chance we update in the file - if Jarrod Washburn signs somewhere next week, for example, we're not going to do anything about it.

Now all of that said, I'm 100% indifferent about moving those waived guys to their new teams - if most people wanted it, we can do it, but otherwise we'll likely leave things as is. It's easy enough to move those three players in commish mode anyway.

Agree, sir! I see what you mean about the waiver wire...

KySteveH · 04-13-2010, 08:19 AM

Weird, and kinda funny...Cincy owner Bob Castellini was apparently born in some place called "Comendador (Elias Pina), Dominican Republic".

I don't even know what to make of that...Pretty sure he is from Cincinnati, or at the very least, not Dominican.

reds1869 · 04-13-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KySteveH

Weird, and kinda funny...Cincy owner Bob Castellini was apparently born in some place called "Comendador (Elias Pina), Dominican Republic".

I don't even know what to make of that...Pretty sure he is from Cincinnati, or at the very least, not Dominican.

BCast is born and bred Ohio (born in Findlay, grew his produce business in Cincinnati). I was very amused by his "Dominican" roots.

tward13 · 04-13-2010, 09:41 AM

With scouting off I have to say the ratings are well done. I don't have the urge to go changing. So that's good.

I MIGHT up Francoeur's arm a bit. I'd submit the video from Sunday's game as evidence. He simply has one of the strongest, most accurate OF arms in the game. But that's easy enough to change if I want to.

Good work all around.

Thanks

mike2228 · 04-13-2010, 11:40 AM

c.c sabathias stats always plumet during his second or third season with the yanks. his pitches vgo from 94-96 to 86-88 for no reason. Also i think arod should be bumped up a notch in contact. He consistently hits around 300.

tehwholeworld · 04-13-2010, 11:45 AM

Matt Thornton is projected to have a 8.8 K/9 with the default roster set, despite sitting at 10.3 and 10.8 K/9 in each of the last two years. He's also projected to give up 1 HR/9, despite posting HR/9 of .6, .7 and .6 in the last three years. Thornton has been one of the best relievers in baseball the past few seasons (and arguably the best lefties reliever), but in OOTP he's roughly the same pitcher as Kyle Farnsworth, which is very far from the truth.

I'd also dispute Mark Buehrle's ratings, but his K/9, BB/9 and HR/9 all seem about right. He's obviously a better pitcher than the results OOTP gives him (considering he's only had an ERA of his projected 4.36 once in his career), but bumping his ratings would make his rate stats unrealistic. I imagine he's in the same situation as Blackburn, who was mentioned previously in the thread.

Raidergoo · 04-13-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by reds1869

BCast is born and bred Ohio (born in Findlay, grew his produce business in Cincinnati). I was very amused by his "Dominican" roots.

Lettuce not worry about such trivialities.

phenom · 04-13-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

Yes, not everyone has a FaceGen (yet - as I understand, it takes a while to put these together). For those who don't, you'll get a photo - there was some discussion about how to handle this, but I think the majority opinion was that a photo was better than nothing.

Indubitably!

wicks22 · 04-13-2010, 04:21 PM

First, I see people talking about stat projections. How do you view these in OOTP 11? I've played OOTP 10 and don't remember them at all.....

In terms of roster stuff Carlos Monasterios is a Rule 5 draftee and is on the real Dodgers roster but is in AA on the game.

Thanks!

Raidergoo · 04-13-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wicks22

First, I see people talking about stat projections. How do you view these in OOTP 11? I've played OOTP 10 and don't remember them at all.....

In terms of roster stuff Carlos Monasterios is a Rule 5 draftee and is on the real Dodgers roster but is in AA on the game.

Thanks!

They might be talking about stat projections like Zips, Marcel, Pecota, and others.

Here is a good place to start:

2010 Projections Marcel Batters | FanGraphs Baseball

mgom27 · 04-13-2010, 05:58 PM

One at the Trade Deadline would be good. Also after the Draft is over but have the people not signed yet. I would take all Retired people not in the Hall Fame yet and put them on the Free-Agent Market to see if anybody signs them or just retire.

SirDrexl · 04-13-2010, 06:16 PM

Jamie Garcia is the (major league) Cardinals' fifth starter. He was given that job before opening day.

gpm22 · 04-13-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blayze

Skimmed the thread so sorry if the following has already been mentioned.

Jai Miller, from Florida to Oakland
Manny Acosta, from Atlanta to NY Mets
Cristhian Martinez, from Florida to Atlanta
Nelson Figueroa, from NY Mets to Philadelphia

Acosta was claimed before OD, but the others occurred afterwards.

turdfurgeson · 04-13-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wicks22

First, I see people talking about stat projections. How do you view these in OOTP 11? I've played OOTP 10 and don't remember them at all.....

In terms of roster stuff Carlos Monasterios is a Rule 5 draftee and is on the real Dodgers roster but is in AA on the game.

Thanks!

I believe they are talking about the projections they see in the player editor ( while in commish mode). It shows a projected stat line for the players ratings if I remember right.

mused2B · 04-13-2010, 08:30 PM

Tim Lincecum, after his first two full seasons earned him two Cy Youngs, and ootp has him at 65 of his potential 78. Seems like he might be closer to his potential already.

And not that it matters in game, but the only way he weighs 170lb is while he's holding a sack of potatoes!

injury log · 04-13-2010, 09:07 PM

Guys, be aware if you have scouting on, you aren't seeing a player's true ratings; your scout might be wrong. Lincecum is certainly an 80 OVR in the game!

KySteveH · 04-13-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Lettuce not worry about such trivialities.

Well, I can try, but it will drive me bananas...

PhillieFever · 04-13-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

As he's rated, if he reaches his potential he'll be a league average hitter with plus OBP and about 35 HRs a year - that is, he'll make a capable big league first baseman. Neither BA nor BP consider him to be among the top 50 prospects in baseball (BA has him at 62, BP at 89), and we're not going to rate him like a superstar because he had a good Spring Training. His current ratings are certainly too low for the AI to assign him to AAA; thanks for pointing that out, and we'll adjust them.

HeHe, reminds me of Mike Anderson, an old Phillies Outfielder, every year he would bat .400 in spring training and look like Babe Ruth, once the team moved north *poof* .225

04-13-2010, 11:40 AM	#87
mike2228 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 491	c.c sabathias stats always plumet during his second or third season with the yanks. his pitches vgo from 94-96 to 86-88 for no reason. Also i think arod should be bumped up a notch in contact. He consistently hits around 300. Last edited by mike2228; 04-13-2010 at 11:48 AM.

04-13-2010, 11:45 AM	#88
tehwholeworld Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 43	Matt Thornton is projected to have a 8.8 K/9 with the default roster set, despite sitting at 10.3 and 10.8 K/9 in each of the last two years. He's also projected to give up 1 HR/9, despite posting HR/9 of .6, .7 and .6 in the last three years. Thornton has been one of the best relievers in baseball the past few seasons (and arguably the best lefties reliever), but in OOTP he's roughly the same pitcher as Kyle Farnsworth, which is very far from the truth. I'd also dispute Mark Buehrle's ratings, but his K/9, BB/9 and HR/9 all seem about right. He's obviously a better pitcher than the results OOTP gives him (considering he's only had an ERA of his projected 4.36 once in his career), but bumping his ratings would make his rate stats unrealistic. I imagine he's in the same situation as Blackburn, who was mentioned previously in the thread. __________________ "I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird." -- Frank Zappa Last edited by tehwholeworld; 04-13-2010 at 11:50 AM.

04-13-2010, 04:21 PM	#91
wicks22 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4	A few observations..... First, I see people talking about stat projections. How do you view these in OOTP 11? I've played OOTP 10 and don't remember them at all..... In terms of roster stuff Carlos Monasterios is a Rule 5 draftee and is on the real Dodgers roster but is in AA on the game. Thanks!

04-13-2010, 05:58 PM	#93
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,531	One at the Trade Deadline would be good. Also after the Draft is over but have the people not signed yet. I would take all Retired people not in the Hall Fame yet and put them on the Free-Agent Market to see if anybody signs them or just retire. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

04-13-2010, 08:19 AM	#84
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Weird, and kinda funny...Cincy owner Bob Castellini was apparently born in some place called "Comendador (Elias Pina), Dominican Republic". I don't even know what to make of that...Pretty sure he is from Cincinnati, or at the very least, not Dominican.

04-13-2010, 09:41 AM	#86
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	With scouting off I have to say the ratings are well done. I don't have the urge to go changing. So that's good. I MIGHT up Francoeur's arm a bit. I'd submit the video from Sunday's game as evidence. He simply has one of the strongest, most accurate OF arms in the game. But that's easy enough to change if I want to. Good work all around. Thanks

04-13-2010, 06:16 PM	#94
SirDrexl Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 35	Jamie Garcia is the (major league) Cardinals' fifth starter. He was given that job before opening day.

04-13-2010, 08:30 PM	#97
mused2B Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15	Tim Lincecum, after his first two full seasons earned him two Cy Youngs, and ootp has him at 65 of his potential 78. Seems like he might be closer to his potential already. And not that it matters in game, but the only way he weighs 170lb is while he's holding a sack of potatoes!

04-13-2010, 09:07 PM	#98
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,162	Guys, be aware if you have scouting on, you aren't seeing a player's true ratings; your scout might be wrong. Lincecum is certainly an 80 OVR in the game!