17 yr old 2B?

jasonn29tn14 · 07-03-2009, 03:09 PM

In my universe I'm currently playing I noticed St Louis had a 17 year old second basemen. He's currently 3/3 in stars and starting. Has anyone else noticed the AI bringing up a guy this young? And will his being in the majors hurt his potential developement?

dsvitak · 07-03-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonn29tn14

In my universe I'm currently playing I noticed St Louis had a 17 year old second basemen. He's currently 3/3 in stars and starting. Has anyone else noticed the AI bringing up a guy this young? And will his being in the majors hurt his potential developement?

Ty Cobb was an established star in his late teens.

A-Rod was a starter at 18.

Al Kaline won a batting title at aged 20.

Albert Pujols went from AA to All-Star in one year.

The truly great players find a way to get the majors very fast indeed.

fredandres · 07-03-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonn29tn14

In my universe I'm currently playing I noticed St Louis had a 17 year old second basemen. He's currently 3/3 in stars and starting. Has anyone else noticed the AI bringing up a guy this young? And will his being in the majors hurt his potential developement?

What era are you playing in?

Joe Nuxhall broke into the majors at age 15 in 1944 during the war.

Cryomaniac · 07-03-2009, 06:30 PM

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What era are you playing in?

Joe Nuxhall broke into the majors at age 15 in 1944 during the war.

Emphasis on "During the war", and since OOTP doesn't handle that, it shouldn't happen, or it should happen VERY rarely.

fredandres · 07-03-2009, 07:05 PM

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Emphasis on "During the war", and since OOTP doesn't handle that, it shouldn't happen, or it should happen VERY rarely.

Right, because in my original post I had asked the era of his simulation. This is information you cannot provide, so your comment is of no value.

According to baseball-reference.com, 134 players have debuted between the ages of 15-17 throughout the history of baseball. Is it likely? Absolutely, depending on the era. It was far more common between the years of 1900 through 1950, than it is today. This may have been an anomaly as related to his High School Feeder league, if he has one.

Cryomaniac · 07-03-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fredandres

Right, because in my original post I had asked the era of his simulation. This is information you cannot provide, so your comment is of no value.

According to baseball-reference.com, 134 players have debuted between the ages of 15-17 throughout the history of baseball. Is it likely? Absolutely, depending on the era. It was far more common between the years of 1900 through 1950, than it is today. This may have been an anomaly as related to his High School Feeder league, if he has one.

I never claimed my comment was of any value lol. Yes, it matters very much what his settings are.

Mainly I was being facetious.

Left-handed Badger · 07-04-2009, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fredandres

Right, because in my original post I had asked the era of his simulation. This is information you cannot provide, so your comment is of no value.

According to baseball-reference.com, 134 players have debuted between the ages of 15-17 throughout the history of baseball. Is it likely? Absolutely, depending on the era. It was far more common between the years of 1900 through 1950, than it is today. This may have been an anomaly as related to his High School Feeder league, if he has one.

I am sure a lot of those 134 were also pre-1900. With it being a bit more "disorganized" it was probably quite a bit easier to go from cornfield to major league field in short order.

jasonn29tn14 · 07-07-2009, 09:49 AM

My league is a fictional modern MLB-like league. I am using feeders - so that probably has something to do with it. I'll check his HS stats when I get home. He was probably dominant there.

sfaustin3 · 07-09-2009, 12:53 PM

In an ootp9 league where the database got screwed up somehow (numerous non-fatal issues including one of the minor-league teams in my org playing twice as many games as they should have) there was a pitcher who was 3 years old. He was on another team but when I saw him on their roster I just had to trade for him. He developed into a pretty good pitcher (great endurance - consistently led the league in IP) and when I stopped playing that league about 12 seasons later he was still going strong, and only 15 years old. Must have been something to be an All-Star before you turn 10 years old...

As for non-buggy-database young players, a few times I saw an "undiscovered" player show up as a 17 or 18 year old from some foreign country, but usually as a pitcher. They tended to flame out early, though.

--sfa3

jasonn29tn14 · 07-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Now that he's turned 18 his numbers seem to have dropped off a bit. But according to the reports he's actually improved. I'm going to track his career since he's such an unusual case.

toxicavenger74 · 07-09-2009, 02:14 PM

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Now that he's turned 18 his numbers seem to have dropped off a bit. But according to the reports he's actually improved. I'm going to track his career since he's such an unusual case.

Are you using feeder leagues? There was an issue that I believe still exists where you will get the occasional feeder league player that has close to 250/250 Contact and everything else less than 20 if not near zero.

jasonn29tn14 · 07-09-2009, 02:59 PM

I'm not at home atm so I can't give his exact numbers. But he's not bugged like that. Seems like everything is ok with him. I'm just wondering if he's gonna become Joe Morgan - or Greg Jeffries.

07-03-2009, 03:09 PM	#1
jasonn29tn14 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 320	17 yr old 2B? In my universe I'm currently playing I noticed St Louis had a 17 year old second basemen. He's currently 3/3 in stars and starting. Has anyone else noticed the AI bringing up a guy this young? And will his being in the majors hurt his potential developement?

07-07-2009, 09:49 AM	#8
jasonn29tn14 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 320	My league is a fictional modern MLB-like league. I am using feeders - so that probably has something to do with it. I'll check his HS stats when I get home. He was probably dominant there.

07-09-2009, 12:53 PM	#9
sfaustin3 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2007 Location: St. Louis Posts: 22	In an ootp9 league where the database got screwed up somehow (numerous non-fatal issues including one of the minor-league teams in my org playing twice as many games as they should have) there was a pitcher who was 3 years old. He was on another team but when I saw him on their roster I just had to trade for him. He developed into a pretty good pitcher (great endurance - consistently led the league in IP) and when I stopped playing that league about 12 seasons later he was still going strong, and only 15 years old. Must have been something to be an All-Star before you turn 10 years old... As for non-buggy-database young players, a few times I saw an "undiscovered" player show up as a 17 or 18 year old from some foreign country, but usually as a pitcher. They tended to flame out early, though. --sfa3

07-09-2009, 01:40 PM	#10
jasonn29tn14 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 320	Now that he's turned 18 his numbers seem to have dropped off a bit. But according to the reports he's actually improved. I'm going to track his career since he's such an unusual case.

07-09-2009, 02:59 PM	#12
jasonn29tn14 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 320	I'm not at home atm so I can't give his exact numbers. But he's not bugged like that. Seems like everything is ok with him. I'm just wondering if he's gonna become Joe Morgan - or Greg Jeffries.