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Old 07-16-2007, 08:47 AM   #21
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I've had it happen plenty of times in leagues modeled on history, but it's rare with modern settings. I did have a recent one take place, though. Oddly, the guy had a career BA just over .300 and never hit above something like .320 again.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:07 AM   #22
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Here's Vendel's player card - he is the league's all-time leader in average, hits and stolen bases - a bit of a down year last year, the first time in his career he failed to crack .300 (and his extra-base power seemed to have completely disappeared)...he's rebounded nicely so far this year, however.

Great numbers, HOF career for sure. Shocking on his SB % though. The guy sure is aggressive.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:18 PM   #23
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Great numbers, HOF career for sure. Shocking on his SB % though. The guy sure is aggressive.
??? 67.6% ??? Granted I'd rather see someone at 70+, but it's not bad.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:53 PM   #24
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For a 1,000 steal guy with a .404 OBP, I'll take 67.6% any day of the week.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:05 PM   #25
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For a 1,000 steal guy with a .404 OBP, I'll take 67.6% any day of the week.
The more steals a guy has, the more a low SB% hurts him. I'd rather have a guy with 100 steals and a 67% rate than a guy with 1000 steals and a 67% rate.
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Granted - he's making more outs. But he's still a pretty good leadoff hitter.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:52 PM   #27
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Granted - he's making more outs. But he's still a pretty good leadoff hitter.
Given his high batting average, moderate OBP, low BBs and fairly low SB% (but evidence of speed), I'd probably bat this guy 2nd or even 3rd, opting to use a speedy, higher OBP guy with a better steal success rate in the leadoff spot.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:24 PM   #28
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3rd, definitely not. I'd want more of a slugger there. Second would work if you had a better leadoff hitter, yes.
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3rd, definitely not. I'd want more of a slugger there. Second would work if you had a better leadoff hitter, yes.
In real life, I'd want a guy who strikes out less hitting second so he could take some pitches when necessary if I want the leadoff guy to steal a base.
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:39 PM   #30
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In the Greenland Winter Ice Baseball League we've had guys hit .700.

In the Continental League, using more typical league totals, I've had three .400 seasons, two by the same guy, both pre-OOTP2007.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:15 PM   #31
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I ran a 30-year test league...based on 1955 stats.

I thought the stats were overall very realistic.

These were the league highs:

Single Year (Career) Batting:

BA: .383 (.338 career)
Runs: 132 (2048)
Hits: 229 (3714)
Doubles: 61 (729)
Triples: 16 (173)
HR: 55 (575)
RBI: 149 (1704)
SB: 111 (1156)
BB: 153 (2014)
SO: 158 (1969)

Single Year (Career) Pitching:
(with 4-man pitching rotation)

ERA: 1.61 (2.18 career)
Wins: 35 (338)
Saves: 45 (356)
Games: 88 (1133)
CG: 34 (488)
SHO: 14 (56)
IP: 351 (6476)
SO: 382 (4925)

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Old 07-17-2007, 07:42 PM   #32
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In real life, I'd want a guy who strikes out less hitting second so he could take some pitches when necessary if I want the leadoff guy to steal a base.
Man, are you two going to dissect everything I say on this guy?

In real life I'd prefer 9 guys who hit like Barry Bonds in 2002 but had Rickey Henderson speed and base stealing ability from 1983. There, that better? And yes you can probably find better steal percentages than Rickey that year, but for a combination of the sheer number of extra bases he got... not many.

But....this random generation of code was clearly a superior random generation of code who had some very good strengths and a few weaknesses that, if improved, could have made him one of the best players ever if translated to real life. I would hit him first or second in my lineup any day of the week, as he is more than likely going to be better than any other options I'd have. In fact, I'd probably hit him leadoff even with the CS just to take advantage of the 67% he does steal.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:38 PM   #33
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I ran a historical sim 1901-2007, with fictional players alongside the historical ones, and with an annual amateur draft for non-historical distribution of players.

When it was over and I generated the League's Leaderboards, and I was pleasantly surprised (shocked, actually) that the highest single-season batting average wasn't Hugh Duffy's .440 in 1894, but Tony Gwynn's .445 in 1994!

.445! And exactly 100 years later.

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Curiously enough, by this point in his career Gwynn had arrived in San Diego (traded from California in 1990) so he had his best season as a Padre. And it's nice that he got to 3000 hits before he retired.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:06 AM   #34
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Wow, Gwynn was either really, really injury prone or constantly platooned.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:05 AM   #35
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Amazing that he got to 3,000 hits with all of those sub 500AB season's.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:18 AM   #36
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I would hit him first or second in my lineup any day of the week, as he is more than likely going to be better than any other options I'd have. In fact, I'd probably hit him leadoff even with the CS just to take advantage of the 67% he does steal.
I would hit him lead-off or second, but turn down his steals slider so that he wasn't losing so much of his offensive production to his poorish steals rating.
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