Did Rogers Cheat

dsvitak · 10-22-2006, 11:52 PM

Hmm...never tried a poll before.

jaxmagicman · 10-22-2006, 11:54 PM

Where is the poll?

Jordan · 10-22-2006, 11:55 PM

and you still havent apparently.

I would say yeah. A couple of years back he had a shot at a 2nd perfect game which eventually got broken up, but Milton Bradley I believe said he saw a cut/scratch in the ball he was using.

The camera angle provided is pretty clear too. Nobody is saying what it was yet, though.

EDIT: you edited in the poll, thus making my attempt at wit null-and void

dsvitak · 10-22-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

and you still havent apparently.

I would say yeah. A couple of years back he had a shot at a 2nd perfect game which eventually got broken up, but Milton Bradley I believe said he saw a cut/scratch in the ball he was using.

The camera angle provided is pretty clear too. Nobody is saying what it was yet, though.

EDIT: you edited in the poll, thus making my attempt at wit null-and void

Had to figure out the mechanics of it...you need to create the thread, THEN edit in the poll info.

Bay Area Bob · 10-22-2006, 11:59 PM

This should have been a public poll.

Bay Area Bob · 10-23-2006, 12:05 AM

dola, where is the monkey rodeo option?

dsvitak · 10-23-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Bob

This should have been a public poll.

Why would you have made it a public poll?

dsvitak · 10-23-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Bob

dola, where is the monkey rodeo option?

Yeah...I couldn't remember the monkey rodeo option...had to settle for llama steaks.

I will try to remember for the next time Rogers cheats.

kq76 · 10-23-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

Why would you have made it a public poll?

So we can know who's lying through their teeth!

Seriously, private polls suck unless you're asking personal questions.

Jason · 10-23-2006, 12:47 AM

I think he cheated at first but to be fair he wasn't in innings 2-8 when he controlled the Cardinals just as much as inning 1.

Raderick · 10-23-2006, 12:54 AM

Can someone tell me what happened?

kq76 · 10-23-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

I think he cheated at first but to be fair he wasn't in innings 2-8 when he controlled the Cardinals just as much as inning 1.

I'm confused. Are you saying he was better in innings 2-8 or inning 1? I'm not sure when he was better, but 7 innings vs 1 says something to me.

Jason · 10-23-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

I'm confused. Are you saying he was better in innings 2-8 or inning 1? I'm not sure when he was better, but 7 innings vs 1 says something to me.

I'm saying I think he cheated in the first inning but not in the innings after that. So you could say he cheated and it helped in inning 1 but you can't say his efforts in the other 7 were enhanced at all.

MuertoDesagradecido · 10-23-2006, 01:22 AM

IIRC, he went aside and talked to the home plate umpire about something after the second inning. Either way, there's no way to tell for sure, but that speaks that he may have been trying to clear it up if it was something accidental or innocuous. We'll never know, I suppose.

MuertoDesagradecido · 10-23-2006, 01:27 AM

dola,

According to the umps it was dirt.

rudel.dietrich · 10-23-2006, 01:35 AM

Maybe, but the Cards have no excuse for the other 7 innings

Asshat · 10-23-2006, 01:47 AM

You guys believe what you have fed to you by the talking heads too much. Just watch the game with no sound and this conversation would not be happening. The mark on his hand was exactly where dirt would be from steadying yourself in a stretch for warming up. It was obvious that tar would not be placed on the inner palm next to the thumb for pitching. The Hat is totally blown away by the gullibility.

mikev · 10-23-2006, 01:56 AM

I don't know if this is dirt or not, but it's about as clear a picture as I've found so far. It *is* kinda fishy that he washed it off before he could get looked at by the umpires, but nevertheless he dominated all game even after the handwashing.

MuertoDesagradecido · 10-23-2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

I don't know if this is dirt or not, but it's about as clear a picture as I've found so far. It *is* kinda fishy that he washed it off before he could get looked at by the umpires, but nevertheless he dominated all game even after the handwashing.

The quote from the MLB official in the article seemed to indicate that the umps had got a look at it and determined it to not be a foreign substance.

mikev · 10-23-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MuertoDesagradecido

The quote from the MLB official in the article seemed to indicate that the umps had got a look at it and determined it to not be a foreign substance.

Umpire supervisor's quote: "There was no formal request made about [Rogers] being inspected," Palermo said after the game. "There was a noticeable dirt mark on his pitching hand, and after the first inning, Alfonso Marquez, the home-plate umpire, asked him to remove the dirt so there wouldn't be any question about any controversy. And I think if you see the following innings, he pitched fine without the dirt."

There was no request for an inspection. They speculated that it was dirt. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that LaRussa would have had to request an inspection, but it had already been removed from Rogers' hand before that could happen.

I dunno, but it's sure fun to talk about :P

View Poll Results: Did Kenny Rogers Cheat During the Game Today?
Heck yeah! Nailed by the Camera!	25	28.41%
Insufficient Evidence to Convict...Probably Yes	34	38.64%
Dude, it was a GRASS STAIN!!! WOOT!!!!11!!!	20	22.73%
Llama Steaks are Quite Tasty!	9	10.23%
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10-22-2006, 11:52 PM	#1
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,345	Did Rogers Cheat Hmm...never tried a poll before.

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Raderick Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,737	Can someone tell me what happened? __________________

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mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I don't know if this is dirt or not, but it's about as clear a picture as I've found so far. It is kinda fishy that he washed it off before he could get looked at by the umpires, but nevertheless he dominated all game even after the handwashing. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

10-22-2006, 11:55 PM	#3
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,991	and you still havent apparently. I would say yeah. A couple of years back he had a shot at a 2nd perfect game which eventually got broken up, but Milton Bradley I believe said he saw a cut/scratch in the ball he was using. The camera angle provided is pretty clear too. Nobody is saying what it was yet, though. EDIT: you edited in the poll, thus making my attempt at wit null-and void

10-22-2006, 11:59 PM	#5
Bay Area Bob Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama via Oregon via Alabama Posts: 14,268 Posts: 276	This should have been a public poll.

10-23-2006, 12:05 AM	#6
Bay Area Bob Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama via Oregon via Alabama Posts: 14,268 Posts: 276	dola, where is the monkey rodeo option?

10-23-2006, 12:47 AM	#10
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,845	I think he cheated at first but to be fair he wasn't in innings 2-8 when he controlled the Cardinals just as much as inning 1.

10-23-2006, 01:22 AM	#14
MuertoDesagradecido Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Saint Francisco Posts: 436 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	IIRC, he went aside and talked to the home plate umpire about something after the second inning. Either way, there's no way to tell for sure, but that speaks that he may have been trying to clear it up if it was something accidental or innocuous. We'll never know, I suppose.

10-23-2006, 01:27 AM	#15
MuertoDesagradecido Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Saint Francisco Posts: 436 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	dola, According to the umps it was dirt.

10-23-2006, 01:35 AM	#16
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Maybe, but the Cards have no excuse for the other 7 innings

10-23-2006, 01:47 AM	#17
Asshat Bat Boy Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14	You guys believe what you have fed to you by the talking heads too much. Just watch the game with no sound and this conversation would not be happening. The mark on his hand was exactly where dirt would be from steadying yourself in a stretch for warming up. It was obvious that tar would not be placed on the inner palm next to the thumb for pitching. The Hat is totally blown away by the gullibility.