One Moderator's Warning

[Guidokid]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Frankly, I'm surprised you're still here.

does this post merit a warning??.....i find it offensive that someone with a yankees logo is rooting for my removal from this forum.
1998 yankees should receive a warning....i find my post and his to be synonymous......

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

Nazi Germany? Please ... the hyperbole never ends ... at least it makes for amusement.

if your'e going ot go to extremes, you might as well go all the way.....

[Hellion9]

Precisely the sort of exchange such subjectivism brings.

Understand, however, as I stated in my LONG reply, we must be willing to accept potentially harsh, subjective or disputable decisions from the moderators if we post something that might be interpreted as rude, disrespectful or inappropriate.

My advice would be to either avoid controversy or accept that this is an internet forum and you may not be here forever.

Option 2 is my choice, for, as someone else said, I probably won't bother ensuring I offend no one and I will subsequently elect to take personal responsibility by accepting that I may be warned and eventually banned.

Interesting dilemma, however, as your interpretation could be accepted as valid - it is a dangerous game deciding when to be righteous, when to be offended and when to be controversial.

Guess we should all mind our P's, Q's, R's, S's and such - one never knows.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by Guidokid

oh...one more thing.....how many warnings does it take before you're banned from the boards???

4

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

4

well, 3 more for guidokid, sorry to split hairs here...hehe

[Zitofan75]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

if your'e going ot go to extremes, you might as well go all the way.....

I always get a chuckle when people start calling some folks "Nazis" whenever they mention a rule or go on about the "persecution" they're suffering from. Most of us, particularly those of us from wealthy, indistrialized democracies have rarely if ever had to deal with a regime or set of circumstances like what the Nazis brought about. They also rarely if ever had to deal with much in the way of persecution or censorship. It is true that some ethnic minorities have suffered some of these things, the majority of the population have rarely been so troubled. Perspective (which is strongly influenced by one's experiences or lack thereof) is a strong thing.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

I always get a chuckle when people start calling some folks "Nazis" whenever they mention a rule or go on about the "persecution" they're suffering from. Most of us, particularly those of us from wealthy, indistrialized democracies have rarely if ever had to deal with a regime or set of circumstances like what the Nazis brought about. They also rarely if ever had to deal with much in the way of persecution or censorship. It is true that some ethnic minorities have suffered some of these things, the majority of the population have rarely been so troubled. Perspective (which is strongly influenced by one's experiences or lack thereof) is a strong thing.

Good point. If I may add my own little perspective:

Bringing over experience from political discussions I have been in. Being called or referred to as a Nazi to me is something that is done when the person doing that has nothing more intelligent or well thought out to offer.

I just brush those comments aside now

[Hellion9]

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

I always get a chuckle when people start calling some folks "Nazis" whenever they mention a rule or go on about the "persecution" they're suffering from. Most of us, particularly those of us from wealthy, indistrialized democracies have rarely if ever had to deal with a regime or set of circumstances like what the Nazis brought about. They also rarely if ever had to deal with much in the way of persecution or censorship. It is true that some ethnic minorities have suffered some of these things, the majority of the population have rarely been so troubled. Perspective (which is strongly influenced by one's experiences or lack thereof) is a strong thing.

Disclaimer: the following post reflects only the opinions of Hellion9 and no other member of this or any other forum, either foreign or domestic. It is not intended to be hurtful, spiteful, rude, cruel, reflect a personal bias or imply any specific disrespect to the reader, the OP or the wider universe, real or imagined. It is, however, utterly without merit, point or sense and is intended only to entertain. Any offense thus inferred should be considered to be wholy in the mind of the reader.

^^ my new standard disclaimer.

Awww, c'mon, at least credit that Nazism is in the eye of the beholder. Some Armericans may argue that any censorship is too much.

Similarly, I've never seen a real Nazi, but certainly the Taliban is a close, contemporary comparison, yes?

Your point, however, is taken - I'm just feeling feisty.

Edit: typo

[D Love]

Amen!!! Finally, something I can agree with.

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

Reading this thread reminds me why I don't bother with this board anymore. Too many people on the one hand defending everything about the game ad nauseum and too many people on the other who can't deal with the game moving on from 6.51. And too many people of all persuasions who can't let go of the fight or drop an argument. Yawn. Not that I've given up, the game is excellent and I can't stop playing the new versions but this place? Bahhh.

[D Love]

If someone compares Battistsi to Hitler, I'm quitting and switching my allegiance to High Heat Baseball.

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

Nazi Germany? Please ... the hyperbole never ends ... at least it makes for amusement.

[D Love]

As a quarter-Italian American, I'm 25% offended by the use of the term Guido in your ID. Since you're already 25% banned, I'll lay off further calls for your banning for now.

Originally Posted by Guidokid

does this post merit a warning??.....i find it offensive that someone with a yankees logo is rooting for my removal from this forum.
1998 yankees should receive a warning....i find my post and his to be synonymous......

[Hellion9]

Originally Posted by D Love

As a quarter-Italian American, I'm 25% offended by the use of the term Guido in your ID. Since you're already 25% banned, I'll lay off further calls for your banning for now.

But could I not interpret your name as a thinly veiled reference to the size mammary gland you prefer (I'm assuming it's not, just pointing out the problems of PC)? Dodgy territory here.

[Guidokid]

This post has been deleted because it did not follow the forum rules.

[Hellion9]

Originally Posted by Guidokid

Being that you are only 25% italian & i am 100%.....i overule you & should be allowed to call myself guidokid......sort of like how african americans can call each other *word censored by quoting poster* but nobody else can......oops, i hope i don't get a warning for using the n word

youch - pretty sure this crosses another line. PC is dangerous, but ceratin phrases are simply always inappropriate, as well I think you know.

[Guidokid]

my point was....i can choose to call myself guidokid because i am 100% italian & d love who is only 25% italian and is offended by the term guido.... shouldn't have anything to say about it because 100% beats 25% every time

[treedom]

Originally Posted by Guidokid

does this post merit a warning??.....i find it offensive that someone with a yankees logo is rooting for my removal from this forum.
1998 yankees should receive a warning....i find my post and his to be synonymous......

This is exactly the kind of finger-pointing that happened in OT. This is a can of worms you really don't want to open.

[Zitofan75]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Good point. If I may add my own little perspective:

Bringing over experience from political discussions I have been in. Being called or referred to as a Nazi to me is something that is done when the person doing that has nothing more intelligent or well thought out to offer.

I just brush those comments aside now

Off topic here but since we're headed that way anyhow ...

I have a friend who's Albanian. Well, he's really from Kosovo but considers himself Albanian. He was never all that political or religious or anything, just wanted to live his life and meet girls. Well one day in 1999 a death squad came into his town and grabbed as many Albanian men as they could find and took them into the woods to be shot. Just for being Albanian. Well my friend is a talker and charming and likes flashy things (he does like the ladies after all) and somehow was able to give one of the gunmen all his goods in exchange for being allowed to "slip off" while everyone else was killed (he still has no idea why they simply didn't kill him and loot his corpse the way they did all the other victims but he must've found a human being). So when I'm on a board or really just anywhere in life I try not to throw about words like "nazis" or wail about being "persecuted" too much; I know folks who have seen some of the real stuff.

[Guidokid]

the problem is sort of like the beanball problem in baseball.....the first team to hit an opposing batter is not punished, but any subsequent hit batsmen results in automatic rejection.....yankees 1998 called for my ouster and was not warned.....but when i made MY post i was sent a warning.....even though i did not use any profanity.....i think battists either owes me an apology or needs to issue yankees 1998 a warning as well

[Hellion9]

Originally Posted by treedom

This is exactly the kind of finger-pointing that happened in OT. This is a can of worms you really don't want to open.

Exactly my point - or the one I was trying to make. It's too easy to cry "foul". GuidoKid received a warning and felt it was unjust, and (rightly or wrongly) feels like he was in turn made fun of by another user (I'm speculating). He had a point, though, as it is mean-spirited to imply that he should already ahve been banned for his transgression.

Easiest to simpy accept that most anything has the potential to have you removed if the moderator feels so inclined. Why worry about it? Pandora's box, however, has been opened with the first warning issued for "inappropriate behavior". To do any less than enforce it (and I may well be enforced as well) is to invite outcries of favoritism that will, no matter how thick skinned, invariably hurt the moderator as well as damaging credibility.

Pretty soon, everyone is in PC-land - worried that their online enemy will accuse them of some sleight and get them banned, and eventually, many people will be. No real winners here.

Did all of this start because a handful of us disagreed with each other? I suppose I must hang my head in shame for my part in the affair.

[Hellion9]

Originally Posted by Zitofan75

Off topic here but since we're headed that way anyhow ...

I have a friend who's Albanian. Well, he's really from Kosovo but considers himself Albanian. He was never all that political or religious or anything, just wanted to live his life and meet girls. Well one day in 1999 a death squad came into his town and grabbed as many Albanian men as they could find and took them into the woods to be shot. Just for being Albanian. Well my friend is a talker and charming and likes flashy things (he does like the ladies after all) and somehow was able to give one of the gunmen all his goods in exchange for being allowed to "slip off" while everyone else was killed (he still has no idea why they simply didn't kill him and loot his corpse the way they did all the other victims but he must've found a human being). So when I'm on a board or really just anywhere in life I try not to throw about words like "nazis" or wail about being "persecuted" too much; I know folks who have seen some of the real stuff.

Ditto, reference Taliban-Afghanistan. But I'll let my previous post stand - being American means accepting different definitions of 'nazism'.