Should a pitcher with 10 stuff 10 control 10 movement dominate?

UtahGamecockFan · 05-15-2005, 11:53 PM

I have a AAA pitcher who has actual ratings of 10 stuff 10 control 10 movement and either 9 or 10 stamina with a 100+ mph velocity. He was 23-5 with a 2.08 era in AAA this year. I am considering trading a veteran pitcher who wins 17-20 games every year for me, and bringing him up. Should be dominate right away with maxed out actual ratings even though he's a rookie? I brought Jered Weaver up to start the 2006 season and his ratings were 10 9 10 and he was 25-3 with a 2.19 ERA with 271 K's in his rookie season. He won the ROY and CY Young award. He repeated this season with a 25-1 record with a 1.91 ERA. Should I expect these kinds of immediate results with this 10 10 10 pitcher?

Side Note: My pitchers are all 20+ game winners, so I have to lose one to bring this AAA SP up.

TotalEnd98 · 05-16-2005, 12:05 AM

Um, yes, bring him up immediately. Trade away the oldest pitcher with the lowest ratings.

GoCubsAndJays · 05-16-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahGamecockFan

I have a AAA pitcher who has actual ratings of 10 stuff 10 control 10 movement and either 9 or 10 stamina with a 100+ mph velocity. He was 23-5 with a 2.08 era in AAA this year. I am considering trading a veteran pitcher who wins 17-20 games every year for me, and bringing him up. Should be dominate right away with maxed out actual ratings even though he's a rookie? I brought Jered Weaver up to start the 2006 season and his ratings were 10 9 10 and he was 25-3 with a 2.19 ERA with 271 K's in his rookie season. He won the ROY and CY Young award. He repeated this season with a 25-1 record with a 1.91 ERA. Should I expect these kinds of immediate results with this 10 10 10 pitcher?

Side Note: My pitchers are all 20+ game winners, so I have to lose one to bring this AAA SP up.

I'd do it. Get rid of your oldest, most expensive pitcher and replace him with this guy.

Dan Theman · 05-16-2005, 12:08 AM

The game is ratings-driven, so yes your young pitcher should do well on your insanely overpowered team

andymac · 05-16-2005, 12:48 AM

I think he should turn this guy into a hitter, it worked for Babe Ruth.

UtahGamecockFan · 05-16-2005, 01:05 AM

Well here are my current pitchers.

Johan Santana 28 yrs 28-2 1.96 ERA 9 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Jered Weaver 26 yrs 25-2 1.91 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Brian Lawrence 31 yrs 26-3 2.70 ERA 9 Stuff 10 Control 9 Movement
Adam Loewen 27 yrs 23-4 2.56 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 8 Movement
Jeff Neiman 25 yrs 15-3 3.43 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 9 Movement

Johnny Slick · 05-16-2005, 01:08 AM

I would bring this guy up and move your worst vet. Now, by "worst", I don't necessarily mean the guy who isn't winning as many games, for Joe Morgan I am not. I would entreat you to take a look at each players' ERA or, even better, K/9, BB/9, and HR/9 when making that decision. Or heck... throw darts at a board. If you've got a kid on your team who just went 25-1, you replacing one ace with another probably won't cost you a ticket to the World Series every year for the next 10 years.

endgame · 05-16-2005, 01:39 AM

How old is your AAA pitcher?

sebastian0622 · 05-16-2005, 01:45 AM

Since you're asking for advice: I'd probably quit the league and start over with some stricter house rules or a smaller-market team.

As for the AAA pitcher, he should be in the bigs. Either bring him up or trade him for something that you need.

torzh · 05-16-2005, 02:30 AM

Play talent only it would make the decision and the game a bit harder.

ramses · 05-16-2005, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahGamecockFan

Well here are my current pitchers.

Johan Santana 28 yrs 28-2 1.96 ERA 9 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Jered Weaver 26 yrs 25-2 1.91 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Brian Lawrence 31 yrs 26-3 2.70 ERA 9 Stuff 10 Control 9 Movement
Adam Loewen 27 yrs 23-4 2.56 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 8 Movement
Jeff Neiman 25 yrs 15-3 3.43 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 9 Movement

um, christ!

thomamon · 05-16-2005, 06:17 AM

Get rid of the 31 year old :-) He's over the hill!

Matteo · 05-16-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian0622

Since you're asking for advice: I'd probably quit the league and start over with some stricter house rules or a smaller-market team.

^^^ gets it

Since you are such a brilliant GM I would advice you to look for harder competition

Melo · 05-16-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahGamecockFan

Well here are my current pitchers.

Johan Santana 28 yrs 28-2 1.96 ERA 9 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Jered Weaver 26 yrs 25-2 1.91 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Brian Lawrence 31 yrs 26-3 2.70 ERA 9 Stuff 10 Control 9 Movement
Adam Loewen 27 yrs 23-4 2.56 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 8 Movement
Jeff Neiman 25 yrs 15-3 3.43 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 9 Movement

I would deal away Neiman. He's just killing your team ERA!

ctorg · 05-16-2005, 09:58 AM

That's a pretty nice pitching staff there.

I would have brought up a guy like that a while before he reached those ratings. Now that he's there, he should be quite dominant and a top contender for Rookie of the Year. Trade your most overpriced/worst starter.

jaxmagicman · 05-16-2005, 10:08 AM

It depends on if the ratings are on a scale of 1-10 or 1-100. Because if it is 1-100 then he will not be any good.

KurtBevacqua · 05-16-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahGamecockFan

Well here are my current pitchers.

Johan Santana 28 yrs 28-2 1.96 ERA 9 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Jered Weaver 26 yrs 25-2 1.91 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement
Brian Lawrence 31 yrs 26-3 2.70 ERA 9 Stuff 10 Control 9 Movement
Adam Loewen 27 yrs 23-4 2.56 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 8 Movement
Jeff Neiman 25 yrs 15-3 3.43 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 9 Movement

Um, doesn't the game get boring for you like this?

Sandman7103 · 05-16-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matteo

^^^ gets it

Since you are such a brilliant GM I would advice you to look for harder competition

What these guys said. Get a new roster set or some new GMs.

Rainey · 05-16-2005, 06:23 PM

I believe he asked if he should bring the pitcher up. He didn't ask to be barraged by people telling him that his league is far too easy for their definition of "fun".

dsvitak · 05-16-2005, 08:18 PM

If the relievers on your team win the same percentage as your starters, then your team will win 144 games.

Who the **** cares?

05-15-2005, 11:53 PM	#1
UtahGamecockFan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 79	Should a pitcher with 10 stuff 10 control 10 movement dominate? I have a AAA pitcher who has actual ratings of 10 stuff 10 control 10 movement and either 9 or 10 stamina with a 100+ mph velocity. He was 23-5 with a 2.08 era in AAA this year. I am considering trading a veteran pitcher who wins 17-20 games every year for me, and bringing him up. Should be dominate right away with maxed out actual ratings even though he's a rookie? I brought Jered Weaver up to start the 2006 season and his ratings were 10 9 10 and he was 25-3 with a 2.19 ERA with 271 K's in his rookie season. He won the ROY and CY Young award. He repeated this season with a 25-1 record with a 1.91 ERA. Should I expect these kinds of immediate results with this 10 10 10 pitcher? Side Note: My pitchers are all 20+ game winners, so I have to lose one to bring this AAA SP up.

05-16-2005, 12:05 AM	#2
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	Um, yes, bring him up immediately. Trade away the oldest pitcher with the lowest ratings. __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

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andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	I think he should turn this guy into a hitter, it worked for Babe Ruth. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

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05-16-2005, 01:05 AM	#6
UtahGamecockFan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 79	Well here are my current pitchers. Johan Santana 28 yrs 28-2 1.96 ERA 9 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement Jered Weaver 26 yrs 25-2 1.91 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 10 Movement Brian Lawrence 31 yrs 26-3 2.70 ERA 9 Stuff 10 Control 9 Movement Adam Loewen 27 yrs 23-4 2.56 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 8 Movement Jeff Neiman 25 yrs 15-3 3.43 ERA 10 Stuff 9 Control 9 Movement

05-16-2005, 01:08 AM	#7
Johnny Slick Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,012	I would bring this guy up and move your worst vet. Now, by "worst", I don't necessarily mean the guy who isn't winning as many games, for Joe Morgan I am not. I would entreat you to take a look at each players' ERA or, even better, K/9, BB/9, and HR/9 when making that decision. Or heck... throw darts at a board. If you've got a kid on your team who just went 25-1, you replacing one ace with another probably won't cost you a ticket to the World Series every year for the next 10 years.

05-16-2005, 01:45 AM	#9
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	Since you're asking for advice: I'd probably quit the league and start over with some stricter house rules or a smaller-market team. As for the AAA pitcher, he should be in the bigs. Either bring him up or trade him for something that you need.

05-16-2005, 02:30 AM	#10
torzh Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 27	Play talent only it would make the decision and the game a bit harder.

05-16-2005, 09:58 AM	#15
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	That's a pretty nice pitching staff there. I would have brought up a guy like that a while before he reached those ratings. Now that he's there, he should be quite dominant and a top contender for Rookie of the Year. Trade your most overpriced/worst starter. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

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jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	It depends on if the ratings are on a scale of 1-10 or 1-100. Because if it is 1-100 then he will not be any good. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

05-16-2005, 06:23 PM	#19
Rainey Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 138	I believe he asked if he should bring the pitcher up. He didn't ask to be barraged by people telling him that his league is far too easy for their definition of "fun".

05-16-2005, 08:18 PM	#20
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,346	If the relievers on your team win the same percentage as your starters, then your team will win 144 games. Who the **** cares?