Lag when playing games in 4.0c

JML · 04-04-2002, 05:57 AM

This topic started in OOTP4 comments, I just wanted to start a thread in this forum so it gets the proper attention. It's not happening to everyone so it is probably system-specific. Hopefully with diverse input, we can figure out what the problem is.

<a href="http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001715" target="_blank">Here's the original thread</a>.

So we know it's not related to the 100% usage thing, since some people aren't experiencing problems. Could it be related to directx? I wouldn't know why, just brainstorming here. I'm runing dx 7.0.

My system:
PII 400
256MB RAM
Win98SE
716MB/10Gig freespace.

I will try freeing up some HD space first, but I doubt that's the problem since others have lots of free space and still experience the lag.

[ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: JML ]

Jason Moyer · 04-04-2002, 07:14 AM

Directx is an interesting idea. I don't know how much OOTP relies on DX aside from the hardware accelerated graphical mode.

I'm _not_ experiencing lag using 4.0c beta.

Athlon Thunderbird 1.4gHz
Abit KT7A Mboard
PNY 256mb PC133 RAM
20GB Seagate 5600 RPM ATA 66 HD
PNY GeForce 4 Ti4400 128mb DDR RAM
Turtle Beach A3DStream

Windows 98 First Edition
Directx 8.1
1GB static swapfile on same partition as game
Detonator 27.42
1024x768x16 Resolution

No problems in full screen/window or D3D/software graphical modes. I also run SecureCRT, IE 6, multiple instances of 606Tab's spreadsheet program and the latest version of Winamp. No slowdown at any time, I'd estimate that it takes less than 3 minutes to simulate an entire season without human intervention. I would expect some slowdown with how little system RAM I have and all of those applications open, especially in Win98, but everything is smooth.

Also, as of 4.0c I'm seeing a 15 degree drop in my CPU temperature which is a good thing (140F in OOTP 4.0b even when the program is idle vs. 125F when doing serious number crunching now).

Edit: added HD/swapfile information

Jason

[ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: Jason Moyer ]

JML · 04-04-2002, 07:33 AM

Well, I just installed Dx 8.1 and the lag remains.

Next?

SSG Troyer · 04-04-2002, 09:55 AM

I have slow down:

P3/866 Win98SE 256MB RAM running Dx8.1
1.5gig free on HD | ATI Radeon 32MB DDR
Running OOTP4.0c (but had slowdown with ver 4.0b as well) with Dx and full screen OFF.

Edit: Clean Taskbar, except for screen saver client (Seti@Home), an HP printer driver, and Norton AV. 77% free resourses now.

[ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: SSG Troyer ]

Jason Moyer · 04-04-2002, 11:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by JML:
Well, I just installed Dx 8.1 and the lag remains.

Next?<hr></blockquote>

Suck. Does this only seem to be happening on intel systems? Trying to find a common thread here.

Jason

LCS213 · 04-04-2002, 11:21 AM

No, as stated in the original thread, i have:
An AMD 900MHz Thunderbird CPU, with DX 8.1,
a GeForce 3 Ti200 Video card,
over 20 Gigs Free HD space, and 512 MB RAM,
running Win XP Home Edition.
-Lenny S.

CMH · 04-04-2002, 02:15 PM

does anybody know where i could find my original system settings? All i know is:

Dell Dimension L733r Computer
GenuineIntel
Pentium(r)III processor
127 MB RAM
Microsoft Windows Me
20 GB Harddrive (even though i only have 5GB free right now)

edit: i just noticed that my RAM is much slower than others BUT that cant be the problem b/c you guys are also experiencing problems with more RAM. I dont think any of the info i offered could help

[ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: YankeePride ]

joshuaaaaaa · 04-04-2002, 04:35 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Jason Moyer:


Suck. Does this only seem to be happening on intel systems? Trying to find a common thread here.

Jason<hr></blockquote>

I use Athlon 1.4 (or 1.6) GHz processor, and I've experienced minor lag. Essentially, I'm sometimes victim of the hitting '1' twice and having the program react slowly. Its possible I'm just hitting the keys too quickly, however with all the reported incidents that looks unlikely.

04-04-2002, 05:57 AM	#1
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Lag when playing games in 4.0c This topic started in OOTP4 comments, I just wanted to start a thread in this forum so it gets the proper attention. It's not happening to everyone so it is probably system-specific. Hopefully with diverse input, we can figure out what the problem is. <a href="http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001715" target="_blank">Here's the original thread</a>. So we know it's not related to the 100% usage thing, since some people aren't experiencing problems. Could it be related to directx? I wouldn't know why, just brainstorming here. I'm runing dx 7.0. My system: PII 400 256MB RAM Win98SE 716MB/10Gig freespace. I will try freeing up some HD space first, but I doubt that's the problem since others have lots of free space and still experience the lag. [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

04-04-2002, 07:14 AM	#2
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,108	Directx is an interesting idea. I don't know how much OOTP relies on DX aside from the hardware accelerated graphical mode. I'm _not_ experiencing lag using 4.0c beta. Athlon Thunderbird 1.4gHz Abit KT7A Mboard PNY 256mb PC133 RAM 20GB Seagate 5600 RPM ATA 66 HD PNY GeForce 4 Ti4400 128mb DDR RAM Turtle Beach A3DStream Windows 98 First Edition Directx 8.1 1GB static swapfile on same partition as game Detonator 27.42 1024x768x16 Resolution No problems in full screen/window or D3D/software graphical modes. I also run SecureCRT, IE 6, multiple instances of 606Tab's spreadsheet program and the latest version of Winamp. No slowdown at any time, I'd estimate that it takes less than 3 minutes to simulate an entire season without human intervention. I would expect some slowdown with how little system RAM I have and all of those applications open, especially in Win98, but everything is smooth. Also, as of 4.0c I'm seeing a 15 degree drop in my CPU temperature which is a good thing (140F in OOTP 4.0b even when the program is idle vs. 125F when doing serious number crunching now). Edit: added HD/swapfile information Jason [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: Jason Moyer ]</p> __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

04-04-2002, 09:55 AM	#4
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	I have slow down: P3/866 Win98SE 256MB RAM running Dx8.1 1.5gig free on HD \| ATI Radeon 32MB DDR Running OOTP4.0c (but had slowdown with ver 4.0b as well) with Dx and full screen OFF. Edit: Clean Taskbar, except for screen saver client (Seti@Home), an HP printer driver, and Norton AV. 77% free resourses now. [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: SSG Troyer ]</p> __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

04-04-2002, 11:04 AM	#5
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,108	[quote]Originally posted by JML: <strong>Well, I just installed Dx 8.1 and the lag remains. Next?</strong><hr></blockquote> Suck. Does this only seem to be happening on intel systems? Trying to find a common thread here. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

04-04-2002, 02:15 PM	#7
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	does anybody know where i could find my original system settings? All i know is: Dell Dimension L733r Computer GenuineIntel Pentium(r)III processor 127 MB RAM Microsoft Windows Me 20 GB Harddrive (even though i only have 5GB free right now) edit: i just noticed that my RAM is much slower than others BUT that cant be the problem b/c you guys are also experiencing problems with more RAM. I dont think any of the info i offered could help [ 04-04-2002: Message edited by: YankeePride ]</p>

04-04-2002, 07:33 AM	#3
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Well, I just installed Dx 8.1 and the lag remains. Next?

04-04-2002, 11:21 AM	#6
LCS213 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 170	No, as stated in the original thread, i have: An AMD 900MHz Thunderbird CPU, with DX 8.1, a GeForce 3 Ti200 Video card, over 20 Gigs Free HD space, and 512 MB RAM, running Win XP Home Edition. -Lenny S.

04-04-2002, 04:35 PM	#8
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	[quote]Originally posted by Jason Moyer: <strong> Suck. Does this only seem to be happening on intel systems? Trying to find a common thread here. Jason</strong><hr></blockquote> I use Athlon 1.4 (or 1.6) GHz processor, and I've experienced minor lag. Essentially, I'm sometimes victim of the hitting '1' twice and having the program react slowly. Its possible I'm just hitting the keys too quickly, however with all the reported incidents that looks unlikely. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~