4th column in reliever web stats

scprideandms · 04-24-2003, 04:13 PM

from html pages, it can't be WHIP cause numbers are all too high, what is it?

Steve Kuffrey · 04-24-2003, 04:18 PM

Looks like that maybe a display error.

scprideandms · 04-24-2003, 04:21 PM

Its like this for all my leagues

http://nwbl.homeip.net/Baseball/NW/team20.html

Springtime_for_Hunter · 04-24-2003, 04:23 PM

Appearances?

Edit: nope. Stumped.

scprideandms · 04-24-2003, 04:24 PM

nope Micajah Harpe been in 6 games and the WHIP column shows 14...they are always whole numbers though?

Qrusher14242 · 04-24-2003, 04:56 PM

Holds?

scprideandms · 04-24-2003, 04:59 PM

doubt it team would then have total 45 holds in only 18 games?

statfreak · 04-24-2003, 05:04 PM

Yeah, that would be highly unlikely, that's 2.5 holds per game.

I think it is some kind of error, but don't know for sure.

WLight · 04-24-2003, 07:34 PM

2.5 holds isn't that far out of the question if you had a deep pen and really wussy starters (and some luck)(and a lot of wins)(okay, it's pretty implausible). But the Micajah Harpe case disproves that theory as well.

Love the names though. But where are Jack, Jim, and Jose?

WLight · 04-24-2003, 07:43 PM

Well, I've figured it out, but it's really too bizarre.

It's the guy's (HA+BB)/2, rounded randomly up or down to the nearest integer.

No, really, I swear. Add it up:

Code:

                    HA  BB (HA+BB)  XX
Crown Royal         17  7    24     12
Glen Livet           6  3     9      4
Jesse Pippins       14  7    21     10
Micajah Harpe       33  6    39     19
Elizabeth Bathony    9  4    13      6
Joe Mattern         17  2    19      9

('XX' is the mystery number displayed in the 4th column there)

I pulled all those stats straight from the page linked by scprideandms. I don't know what it all points to, but there you go. Anybody have any other data points we can compare and see if my theory holds true?

*edit: smart enough to type it out in notepad first, dumb enough to get the alignment wrong anyway.

zeroIQ · 04-24-2003, 09:12 PM

Good job. I looked at those figures for five minutes and couldn't figure anything logical. Now I can sleep easier, thanks

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WLight · 04-24-2003, 09:36 PM

But WHY???

Henry · 04-24-2003, 09:46 PM

Looks like an incomplete calculation... heading toward some kind of an on base average or something ?

Henry

ghulten · 04-24-2003, 10:00 PM

It's almost WHIP:

(HA+BB)/2 = XX

or (HA+BB)/IP = WHIP

Just change the 2 to IP, and it'll display WHIP just like for the starters, right?

dougk62 · 04-25-2003, 03:03 AM

I think ghulten has it. Maybe it will get on the things to fix for the next patch list. I'm sure it was just a simple oversite.

koohead · 04-25-2003, 03:26 AM

My question is how long did it take Wlight to figure that one out! That's amazing stuff. I'm truly impressed.

scprideandms · 04-25-2003, 07:47 AM

FYI: Jack Daniels is in AAA (OF) , I had a Jim Beam and a Jose Cuervo once but they have since been traded and I think renamed. Also in the Majors are P Stoli Absolut, OF Hava Beer and SP Bud Wiser. Many more in the minors

WLight · 04-25-2003, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ghulten
Just change the 2 to IP, and it'll display WHIP just like for the starters, right?

It also seems to round to integers, which obviously isn't desirable for a WHIP calculation.

Thanks koohead

04-24-2003, 04:13 PM	#1
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	4th column in reliever web stats from html pages, it can't be WHIP cause numbers are all too high, what is it? __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

04-24-2003, 04:18 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,035	Looks like that maybe a display error. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-24-2003, 04:21 PM	#3
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Its like this for all my leagues http://nwbl.homeip.net/Baseball/NW/team20.html __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

04-24-2003, 04:23 PM	#4
Springtime_for_Hunter All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 846	Appearances? Edit: nope. Stumped. __________________ "Only the utterly impossible, the inexpressibly fantastic, can ever be plausible again" Red Smith, New York Herald-Tribune, October 4, 1951 Last edited by Springtime_for_Hunter; 04-24-2003 at 04:27 PM.

04-24-2003, 04:24 PM	#5
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	nope Micajah Harpe been in 6 games and the WHIP column shows 14...they are always whole numbers though? __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

04-24-2003, 04:56 PM	#6
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,253	Holds?

04-24-2003, 04:59 PM	#7
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	doubt it team would then have total 45 holds in only 18 games? __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

04-24-2003, 05:04 PM	#8
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	Yeah, that would be highly unlikely, that's 2.5 holds per game. I think it is some kind of error, but don't know for sure. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

04-24-2003, 07:34 PM	#9
WLight Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 314	2.5 holds isn't that far out of the question if you had a deep pen and really wussy starters (and some luck)(and a lot of wins)(okay, it's pretty implausible). But the Micajah Harpe case disproves that theory as well. Love the names though. But where are Jack, Jim, and Jose?

04-24-2003, 07:43 PM	#10
WLight Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 314	Well, I've figured it out, but it's really too bizarre. It's the guy's (HA+BB)/2, rounded randomly up or down to the nearest integer. No, really, I swear. Add it up: Code: HA BB (HA+BB) XX Crown Royal 17 7 24 12 Glen Livet 6 3 9 4 Jesse Pippins 14 7 21 10 Micajah Harpe 33 6 39 19 Elizabeth Bathony 9 4 13 6 Joe Mattern 17 2 19 9 ('XX' is the mystery number displayed in the 4th column there) I pulled all those stats straight from the page linked by scprideandms. I don't know what it all points to, but there you go. Anybody have any other data points we can compare and see if my theory holds true? edit: smart enough to type it out in notepad first, dumb enough to get the alignment wrong anyway. Last edited by WLight; 04-24-2003 at 07:45 PM.*

04-24-2003, 09:12 PM	#11
zeroIQ Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 143	Good job. I looked at those figures for five minutes and couldn't figure anything logical. Now I can sleep easier, thanks . __________________ <p>Lambs & Legends - Your path to stardom... or oblivion.

04-24-2003, 09:36 PM	#12
WLight Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 314	But WHY???

04-24-2003, 09:46 PM	#13
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Looks like an incomplete calculation... heading toward some kind of an on base average or something ? Henry

04-24-2003, 10:00 PM	#14
ghulten Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	It's almost WHIP: (HA+BB)/2 = XX or (HA+BB)/IP = WHIP Just change the 2 to IP, and it'll display WHIP just like for the starters, right?

04-25-2003, 03:03 AM	#15
dougk62 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tonganoxie, KS Posts: 304	I think ghulten has it. Maybe it will get on the things to fix for the next patch list. I'm sure it was just a simple oversite. __________________ NABA - Calgary Wolfpack JOBL - Jacksonville Express Creator of Offensive Value Rating Reports

04-25-2003, 03:26 AM	#16
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,229	My question is how long did it take Wlight to figure that one out! That's amazing stuff. I'm truly impressed. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

04-25-2003, 07:47 AM	#17
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	FYI: Jack Daniels is in AAA (OF) , I had a Jim Beam and a Jose Cuervo once but they have since been traded and I think renamed. Also in the Majors are P Stoli Absolut, OF Hava Beer and SP Bud Wiser. Many more in the minors __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.