I Never Did Understand This

james17 · 07-07-2018, 04:57 PM

I've even been to the manual which further confused me:

What is the difference between 'Position Rating' and the 'Defensive Ratings"?I've seen many players have dramatically different ratings between the 2. For example, I have a SS who is 100 Error Rating and Over 80 for all the other ratings like range, etc.defensively but only has a 40 Position Rating? So which one do i use to evaluate the player? What kind of defense should I expect from the guy?

This has been bugging me for years so any help is appreciated.

Leo_The_Lip · 07-07-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

I've even been to the manual which further confused me:

What is the difference between 'Position Rating' and the 'Defensive Ratings"?I've seen many players have dramatically different ratings between the 2. For example, I have a SS who is 100 Error Rating and Over 80 for all the other ratings like range, etc.defensively but only has a 40 Position Rating? So which one do i use to evaluate the player? What kind of defense should I expect from the guy?

This has been bugging me for years so any help is appreciated.

This is actually quite easy to explain. Position ratings are for the positions a guy actually plays--that is, his experience at the spot. So a great RFer may not have a rating at CF, even though he might be decent there. By playing a man at a position, he accrues experience at the spot and gains a rating. This rating will increase over time until it maxes out.

Basically it takes about 200 games played to max out a rating. Spring Training games count more than regular season games, so playing a guy at a new position in ST is the way to go.

You can check games played by going to the EDITOR and scrolling all the way to the bottom of the right column. This will show how many games a guy has at any given position.

jimmysthebestcop · 07-07-2018, 05:34 PM

The position rating is made up of defensive ratings plus experience. Games and innings played at that position.

You could have an 80 in every defense rating but the AI dh'ed him so low rating at each position because no experience.

Once they log time the position rating will go up.

james17 · 07-07-2018, 06:39 PM

OK. Got it.

I wish they had called 'Position Rating', 'Position Experience', then

jimmysthebestcop · 07-08-2018, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by james17

OK. Got it.

I wish they had called 'Position Rating', 'Position Experience', then

Well it is still based upon the overall defensive ratings which can go down with age and no amount of experience will help keep a player rated high at their positions once age eats their underlying skills away.

battists · 07-08-2018, 03:51 PM

If you want to think of it in terms of more "real" examples, if you play a player in RF for the first time, he might have a great arm, great range, etc., but might play balls poorly or take poor angles, because he's not experienced at RF. That's an example of someone with high defensive ratings but low positional rating.

james17 · 07-08-2018, 04:06 PM

OK. I think I get it now. :-)

Whoofe · 07-09-2018, 04:26 PM

yeah, I think the position rating relies upon the defensive ratings, such that if the underlying defensive ratings are not good then the position rating will never be good no matter how much experience at that position

third baseman can be solid defensively with great arm and mediocre range/error/turn dp, but if he has great turn dp and error but a weak arm and range, I don't think he can be a good third baseman (defensively)

The_Offspring187 · 07-09-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo_The_Lip

This is actually quite easy to explain. Position ratings are for the positions a guy actually plays--that is, his experience at the spot. So a great RFer may not have a rating at CF, even though he might be decent there. By playing a man at a position, he accrues experience at the spot and gains a rating. This rating will increase over time until it maxes out.

Basically it takes about 200 games played to max out a rating. Spring Training games count more than regular season games, so playing a guy at a new position in ST is the way to go.

You can check games played by going to the EDITOR and scrolling all the way to the bottom of the right column. This will show how many games a guy has at any given position.

I didn't know this after so many years of playing smh (I still remember an old option on a previous game to be able to "teach" a player a new position but I haven't seen that in years). I'll definitely be using this information in spring trainings in the future. Thanks!

jimmysthebestcop · 07-09-2018, 06:17 PM

You really want to get the players when they are in the minors. Force start them at multiple positions.

Make them learn as many spots as possible.

07-07-2018, 04:57 PM	#1
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	I Never Did Understand This I've even been to the manual which further confused me: What is the difference between 'Position Rating' and the 'Defensive Ratings"?I've seen many players have dramatically different ratings between the 2. For example, I have a SS who is 100 Error Rating and Over 80 for all the other ratings like range, etc.defensively but only has a 40 Position Rating? So which one do i use to evaluate the player? What kind of defense should I expect from the guy? This has been bugging me for years so any help is appreciated.

07-08-2018, 03:51 PM	#6
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	If you want to think of it in terms of more "real" examples, if you play a player in RF for the first time, he might have a great arm, great range, etc., but might play balls poorly or take poor angles, because he's not experienced at RF. That's an example of someone with high defensive ratings but low positional rating. __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!

07-08-2018, 04:06 PM	#7
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	OK. I think I get it now. :-) Last edited by james17; 07-08-2018 at 04:22 PM.

07-07-2018, 05:34 PM	#3
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	The position rating is made up of defensive ratings plus experience. Games and innings played at that position. You could have an 80 in every defense rating but the AI dh'ed him so low rating at each position because no experience. Once they log time the position rating will go up.

07-07-2018, 06:39 PM	#4
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	OK. Got it. I wish they had called 'Position Rating', 'Position Experience', then

07-09-2018, 04:26 PM	#8
Whoofe All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 590	yeah, I think the position rating relies upon the defensive ratings, such that if the underlying defensive ratings are not good then the position rating will never be good no matter how much experience at that position third baseman can be solid defensively with great arm and mediocre range/error/turn dp, but if he has great turn dp and error but a weak arm and range, I don't think he can be a good third baseman (defensively)

07-09-2018, 06:17 PM	#10
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	You really want to get the players when they are in the minors. Force start them at multiple positions. Make them learn as many spots as possible.