Why did this happen to this Reliever?

[PoopyJoe69]

A reliever in my game, 2nd all time in saves, didn't play last season. And that's despite signing 5 (!!) contracts over the course of last season, all over $1000000 dollars. My question is, why on earth did that happen? Is this just bizarre, or is it a common thing?

[adamj]

Originally Posted by PoopyJoe69

A reliever in my game, 2nd all time in saves, didn't play last season. And that's despite signing 5 (!!) contracts over the course of last season, all over $1000000 dollars. My question is, why on earth did that happen? Is this just bizarre, or is it a common thing?
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Apparently, a bug was introduced with the latest patch that causes players to get stuck on DFA, then released 10 days later.


See this thread:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ailable-3.html


In that thread, it was thought to only occur after trades during the offseason, but it looks like it's happening to your player after signing an FA contract during the season.


I guess the bug is worse than currently thought!

[OldFatGuy]

Wow, so instead of striking out a gazillion times, Adam Dunn decided to be a pitcher and strike someone else out for a change.... lol... he did take the mound once while with White Sox IIRC.

Fun fact: Guess which left handed pitcher Adam Dunn TOTALLY OWNED during his career. I mean serious ownage.....

Answer: Clayton Kershaw, Los Angeles Dodgers. As that famous man once said.... "You can look it up" lol

EDIT: I looked it up for you... 13 at bats, only struck out 3 times against Kershaw (which is low, believe me I watched him everyday during his tenure in Washington as that's how I knew about his ownage of Kershaw).... 8 hits including 2 doubles and 4HR's for a slash line of: .615/.643/1.692/2.335

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by adamj

I guess the bug is worse than currently thought!

I'm playing a very long game in OOTP 16 and see this all over my league. Which doesn't make it good, but anyway.

[OldFatGuy]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

I'm playing a very long game in OOTP 16 and see this all over my league. Which doesn't make it good, but anyway.

Wait... you mean this bug is a leftover from 16? Now I know I must not pay close enough attention to other teams transactions because I don't remember seeing this.

Oh wait, nm. I bet it has something to do with the DFA since it's always 10 days after some sort of transaction that they get released. I ALWAYS turn off DFA (and options, and rule 5, and 40 man roster, and player personality and morale and whatever else because every single option that is turned on provides an advantage to me because the AI doesn't handle ANY of them as well as a human player). So, since I had the DFA disabled I guess that's why I never noticed it. It probably didn't happen to me. I also haven't seen it in 17.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Wait... you mean this bug is a leftover from 16? Now I know I must not pay close enough attention to other teams transactions because I don't remember seeing this.

Oh wait, nm. I bet it has something to do with the DFA since it's always 10 days after some sort of transaction that they get released. I ALWAYS turn off DFA (and options, and rule 5, and 40 man roster, and player personality and morale and whatever else because every single option that is turned on provides an advantage to me because the AI doesn't handle ANY of them as well as a human player). So, since I had the DFA disabled I guess that's why I never noticed it. It probably didn't happen to me. I also haven't seen it in 17.

No, I have waivers/DFA off too. Fortunately it's not a big deal for me, I don't mind making up stories to explain it, but it is definitely consistent. Some of these guys are first round draft picks then are cut before the season starts (I do the draft in early spring) or are good international discoveries who don't play for a year then get cut, and signed and cut and signed and...

[OldFatGuy]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

No, I have waivers/DFA off too. Fortunately it's not a big deal for me, I don't mind making up stories to explain it, but it is definitely consistent. Some of these guys are first round draft picks then are cut before the season starts (I do the draft in early spring) or are good international discoveries who don't play for a year then get cut, and signed and cut and signed and...

I'm not sure then you're talking about the same issue as what's in this thread. It "sounds" like (though I may be wrong) that you're basically talking about an AI issue where the AI signs and releases players for no apparent reason and yes, this has been around... forever... but doesn't usually involve top notch, superstar type players.

The bug being discussed in this thread (and others) is regarding players that are aquired (either through trade or free agent signing), including top of the line players, that are released EXACTLY 10 days after being acquired... thus leading me to surmise it's something to do with the DFA list. Either upon acquisition they're being placed on the DFA instead of the regular roster or the AI "thinks" they've been placed on the DFA instead of the regular roster... note how this reliever DIDN'T PLAY despite being signed five times, which is an indication he wasn't placed on the active roster... and thus at the end of the 10 day DFA period they're being released.

Or, you know, I've totally misunderstood what's been discussed regarding this particular bug. Which, to be honest, is the most likely answer.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Yes, that is a bug which will be fixed with todays hotfix patch

[Markus Heinsohn]

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...available.html

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

It "sounds" like (though I may be wrong) that you're basically talking about an AI issue where the AI signs and releases players for no apparent reason and yes, this has been around... forever... but doesn't usually involve top notch, superstar type players.

Yep, that's the bug, and no, it's not just marginal players. 1st round picks and 5 star signings.

[OldFatGuy]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

Yep, that's the bug, and no, it's not just marginal players. 1st round picks and 5 star signings.

Interesting. I don't see it with high quality players in my games. Although to be fair, 1st round picks can be duds and if you're talking 5 stars that's dependent upon a lot things and in my experience the only 4 or 5 start players that I've seen it happen to are middle relievers... which are a dime a dozen in most games.... and vastly over-rated IMO.

But yeah, this has been here forever. I'll see if I can find an old post that will show you how long it's been around and give you a good laugh at the same time. I'll search and see if I can find it. (might be gone now I dunno).

EDIT: Found it! Same sort of issue, in this case players being called up and down from the minors.

[BBGiovanni]

Thanks... I remember that thread, but it's a lot less funny now The up-and-down from the minors thing I remember, but these are guys that are signed, released, sit for a year not playing, etc., etc. I have seen other threads about it but as I say this is the first time it's been really noticeable (I usually play all games, this is the first time I've simmed out a long history first).

Anyway thanks for commiserating.

[NoOne]

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Interesting. I don't see it with high quality players in my games.

i think it was a matter of order... e.g. first or last player included in the trade? last player signed? etc.

the trade i noticed it on kept the crappy throw-in SP and dumped the soon-to-be all-star quality SP.