Two-Way Player

ovccsteve · 08-16-2013, 02:14 PM

I just drafted a guy with amazing potential (and pretty far along) as both a pitcher and an outfielder. I'm wanting him to be in the rotation in AA and DH anytime he's available. As a complication, I'm trying to let the AI manage my minor leagues. I can't think of any way to get the AI to play along with my plan, so I've taken control. Does anyone know of a way to trick the AI into using a player in this way? And even if not, does anyone have a story of developing a two-way player? (I know I'll have to choose eventually. I'd just like to have some more data before I make the call.)

kuma78 · 08-16-2013, 03:08 PM

Just thinking out loud, but I would think the only way to do it is to manage it yourself. You could use 7 day lineups for the DH part.

If you used the Force Start feature, you would only be able to choose either P or OF.

JMDurron · 08-16-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ovccsteve

I just drafted a guy with amazing potential (and pretty far along) as both a pitcher and an outfielder. I'm wanting him to be in the rotation in AA and DH anytime he's available. As a complication, I'm trying to let the AI manage my minor leagues. I can't think of any way to get the AI to play along with my plan, so I've taken control. Does anyone know of a way to trick the AI into using a player in this way? And even if not, does anyone have a story of developing a two-way player? (I know I'll have to choose eventually. I'd just like to have some more data before I make the call.)

I've developed a Starting Pitcher with great hitting ability in one of my leagues. I just kept letting him pitch in the minors, and his hitting ability developed despite getting little to no time at the plate in the minors. He wasn't enough of a fielder that the lack of playing time at one of the 8 non-P defensive positions was an issue for me, so this might work for you if you just want to use him as a DH occasionally. From what I've seen, there is no need to do so.

This may have been changed in a recent patch (not that I recall seeing anything to that effect), and it may not work with position players developing pitching ratings (it probably shouldn't), but it's worked for me with pitchers still developing their hitting talents.

ovccsteve · 08-16-2013, 04:18 PM

Thanks. I think I'll manage him for at least this season using 7-day lineups. If his hitting is what my scout predicts, he's a Hall of Famer. If not, he's a solid starting pitcher. Or, he flames out and never reaches the majors as either. ; )

Nunyer · 08-16-2013, 04:34 PM

I have only just started my first fictional league in OOTP14... but it does appear that a good amount of pitchers naturally develop hitting ability. In fact, my current starting 2B was a former pitcher. He's 31 years old and spent about 7 years as a ML starter and parts of two other seasons as a swingman. He was acquired in the offseason for bullpen help... one of those situations where a team in financial trouble will trade away overpriced MR's for a bag of balls.

Then during spring training I sorted my entire roster by contact... and he had an 11/20... was pretty shocked. His infield attributes were above average, so I converted him to 2B... as I needed infield help more than bullpen arms. He's playing way over his head at the moment, hitting .335 over his first 50 games... But taking a quick peak at the editor, he would be a .276 hitter in the 'neutral environment'.

Doing some quick sorts in the player search, the best overall hitting pitcher I can find in my current fictional league would hit .267 with 36 HRs in the neutral environment.

RonP · 08-17-2013, 06:38 AM

I had Babe Ruth and couldn't do it with him.

08-16-2013, 02:14 PM	#1
ovccsteve All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sanford, NC Posts: 571	Two-Way Player I just drafted a guy with amazing potential (and pretty far along) as both a pitcher and an outfielder. I'm wanting him to be in the rotation in AA and DH anytime he's available. As a complication, I'm trying to let the AI manage my minor leagues. I can't think of any way to get the AI to play along with my plan, so I've taken control. Does anyone know of a way to trick the AI into using a player in this way? And even if not, does anyone have a story of developing a two-way player? (I know I'll have to choose eventually. I'd just like to have some more data before I make the call.)

08-16-2013, 03:08 PM	#2
kuma78 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 437	Just thinking out loud, but I would think the only way to do it is to manage it yourself. You could use 7 day lineups for the DH part. If you used the Force Start feature, you would only be able to choose either P or OF. __________________ Looking for informative and entertaining Cubs baseball talk? Check out The View From The Bleachers

08-16-2013, 04:18 PM	#4
ovccsteve All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sanford, NC Posts: 571	Thanks. I think I'll manage him for at least this season using 7-day lineups. If his hitting is what my scout predicts, he's a Hall of Famer. If not, he's a solid starting pitcher. Or, he flames out and never reaches the majors as either. ; )

08-16-2013, 04:34 PM	#5
Nunyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Baseball Ned Flanders stares into your soul... Posts: 594	I have only just started my first fictional league in OOTP14... but it does appear that a good amount of pitchers naturally develop hitting ability. In fact, my current starting 2B was a former pitcher. He's 31 years old and spent about 7 years as a ML starter and parts of two other seasons as a swingman. He was acquired in the offseason for bullpen help... one of those situations where a team in financial trouble will trade away overpriced MR's for a bag of balls. Then during spring training I sorted my entire roster by contact... and he had an 11/20... was pretty shocked. His infield attributes were above average, so I converted him to 2B... as I needed infield help more than bullpen arms. He's playing way over his head at the moment, hitting .335 over his first 50 games... But taking a quick peak at the editor, he would be a .276 hitter in the 'neutral environment'. Doing some quick sorts in the player search, the best overall hitting pitcher I can find in my current fictional league would hit .267 with 36 HRs in the neutral environment.

08-17-2013, 06:38 AM	#6
RonP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 226	I had Babe Ruth and couldn't do it with him.