Official Rolen/Cubby Roster Thread

[bgstmetfan]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

That would only affect one org, the Mets...and screw them!

Brave or Skankee fan?

[adichiara]

It seems that pitchers dont get nicked up enough. The leaders in my season had 40 starts, the low out fo the top 10 was like 37.

[Erich Ingram]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

You mean the game won't sim even before June? When those teams don't have any games scheduled? Because once games get scheduled, they will have the drafted players, right?

It would be nice to have this fixed, if it really does work that way. Having to keep those teams full of players all year round kinda defeats the purpose of having them, you know?

Actually the game will sim right up until the first game of any team that does not have enough players to play. And then it will stop at that day until that team has enough players on it to field a team

[Erich Ingram]

Originally Posted by adichiara

It seems that pitchers dont get nicked up enough. The leaders in my season had 40 starts, the low out fo the top 10 was like 37.

Did you set it up so that the AI is making transactions for their team?

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

You mean the game won't sim even before June? When those teams don't have any games scheduled? Because once games get scheduled, they will have the drafted players, right?

It would be nice to have this fixed, if it really does work that way. Having to keep those teams full of players all year round kinda defeats the purpose of having them, you know?

You won't find anyone who agrees with me more than you. Unfortunately, under the parameters we're operating under, this is the only viable solution I can see.

[dukeg]

These are some differences I found between your opening day rosters and USA Today’s list. Below are transactions to be made. I believe some of the DL guys are minor leaguers anyway, and some injured guys are in minors but not on DL.

National League
Arizona
Medders missing (belongs on DL)
Atlanta
McBride missing (belongs on DL)
Cincinnati
Abad missing
P. Wilson missing (belongs on DL)
Balfour missing (belongs on DL)
Colorado
Cerda missing
Hawpe should not be on roster
Dohmann missing (belongs on DL)
Florida
Messenger missing
Megrew missing (belongs on DL)
German should not be on roster
Houston
Nieve should not be on roster
Los Angeles
Garciaparra should not be on DL
Loney should not be on roster
New York
Matsui missing (belongs on DL)
Philadelphia
Booker (belongs on DL)
Pittsburgh
VanBenschoten missing (belongs on DL)
San Diego
Cassidy missing
St. Louis
Spivey missing
Ankiel missing (belongs on DL)
Spezio should not be on roster
Washington
Fick (belongs on DL)
Guzman (belongs on DL)

[CubbyFan23]

Not sure USA Today's were right, because I know off the top of my head that Spivey wasn't on the Opening Day roster. We're using BaseballAmerica's which I trust a bit more I think. I appreciate the post though, I forgot to put a few guys listed there on the DL, I'll fix that now.

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Not sure USA Today's were right, because I know off the top of my head that Spivey wasn't on the Opening Day roster. We're using BaseballAmerica's which I trust a bit more I think. I appreciate the post though, I forgot to put a few guys listed there on the DL, I'll fix that now.

Yep...the BA list is always accurate as of opening day.

[ozziethesaint]

Spivey actually was on the Cards 25 man roster on MLB's true opening Night. but then before the Cards had their first game he was DFA'ed and Spiezio's contract was purchased

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by ozziethesaint

Spivey actually was on the Cards 25 man roster on MLB's true opening Night. but then before the Cards had their first game he was DFA'ed and Spiezio's contract was purchased

Weird situation...But the way the MLB CBA defines it, the season begins for all teams the day the first team plays. So I would say Spivey was on the OD roster for StL.

[ozziethesaint]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

Weird situation...But the way the MLB CBA defines it, the season begins for all teams the day the first team plays. So I would say Spivey was on the OD roster for StL.

Cards have done it 2 Years in a row now... They seem to prefer moving the player in question, Spivey this year, Ankiel the year before, through waivers once the other teams have the rosters set

[Bears5122]

If you guys need some help with the minors, let me know. Not in the ratings part, but if you need a little program written to help speed things up. I'm not sure if you are just lowering the ratings by a percentage to match up with the major leaguers or just completely re-doing them.

[DRaysGoRocco]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

You won't find anyone who agrees with me more than you. Unfortunately, under the parameters we're operating under, this is the only viable solution I can see.

Here is my potential solution...

There are a number of minor leaguers on each team that aren't on a roster on opening day and stay at extended spring training until June when the two short season levels begin play. A lot of these players are High School draftees (18/19 y/o) from a year or two ago that aren't advanced enough to play at Low A yet. There are also some prior college draftees and injured/rehabbing players at extended spring training.

I'm sure we could come up with a good 20-30 players, if not more, per team that were at extended spring training to make up the 2 levels prior to June. In fact, if you look at the rosters of the two short season levels, the majority of the players arent' 2006 draftees.

Now, I definately wouldn't expect you or Erich to have to go through each team and figure out which players these are, but I'm sure we could get a couple of people here to gather lists together for each team. I for one, could come up with plenty in the Devil Rays Organization.

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by Erich Ingram

Actually the game will sim right up until the first game of any team that does not have enough players to play. And then it will stop at that day until that team has enough players on it to field a team

So, then, I don't see an issue. Leave the teams empty until June. When the draft comes, the draftees will fill those two teams. By Mid-June, when the first games occur, the teams will be fine.

Did I miss something in that logic?

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by bgstmetfan

Brave or Skankee fan?

Reds!

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by KySteveH

So, then, I don't see an issue. Leave the teams empty until June. When the draft comes, the draftees will fill those two teams. By Mid-June, when the first games occur, the teams will be fine.

Did I miss something in that logic?

Yes, when the first game (MLB April 2) is simmed, if the teams aren't filled, I'm almost 99 percent sure NO games will sim, not just the short season ones. That's the issue we're dealing with I'm pretty sure when me and Erich were messing around with it earlier.

[aphoward]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Yes, when the first game (MLB April 2) is simmed, if the teams aren't filled, I'm almost 99 percent sure NO games will sim, not just the short season ones. That's the issue we're dealing with I'm pretty sure when me and Erich were messing around with it earlier.

That's not true. It doesn't stop you until you get to the first day of scheduled games for said league, exactly as Erich said. But, like he said, the problem is that even with the max # of draft rounds, all of the levels don't fill up. So you will get to that first day of scheduled games, and not have enough players.

But yes, you can have empty rosters until the first day of scheduled games for THAT LEAGUE only. It's the same way if you have leagues that start BEFORE the major league level, they have to be filled first, or you will get stopped.

[KySteveH]

Originally Posted by aphoward

That's not true. It doesn't stop you until you get to the first day of scheduled games for said league, exactly as Erich said. But, like he said, the problem is that even with the max # of draft rounds, all of the levels don't fill up. So you will get to that first day of scheduled games, and not have enough players.

But yes, you can have empty rosters until the first day of scheduled games for THAT LEAGUE only. It's the same way if you have leagues that start BEFORE the major league level, they have to be filled first, or you will get stopped.

Thanks for the info, but I still don't understand. If I have 50 rounds in the draft, and two teams to fill, that seems to work out perfectly. In fact, if I did have players at Rookie or Short-A, I wouldn't have any place for my draftees.

What am I missing here?

[DCHepler25]

If I have 50 rounds in the draft, and two teams to fill, that seems to work out perfectly. In fact, if I did have players at Rookie or Short-A, I wouldn't have any place for my draftees.

Yes, in theory this should work. However, as DRaysGoRocco pointed out earlier, in the real MLB these rosters have players assigned to them before they begin play in June. Many of these players are young high school guys from previous drafts and foreign free agent signees (ie - the Yankees 16 y.o catching prospect). These players may have already played a season in Rookie ball or even short-season, but they still are not advanced enough to move up to low-A. In addition, no major league team ever signs all of the players they draft in a given year. They usually only sign 20-30 players out of any given draft class. I know that doesn't matter for OOTP because everyone drafted automatically gets signed and that is another reason for fewer rounds.

I am in favor of placing players on these rosters. I am also willing to help research the MLB rosters to find out who these players actually should be. The more realistic the roster set is the better it will be 5-6 simmed seasons from now!

[CubbyFan23]

Who knows? I'm pretty sure that's the way it used to work but perhaps it doesn't anymore, I'll check it out later.