The Cooperstown League

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Good picks for the Angels, as far as I can currently tell, although I'll have to check out Bobby Bonds and/or Bartolo Colon, who might be better for other teams here with your scenario, before I can properly comment on those picks here. I can't actually remember Colon as an Angel, I think, though. Baylor could play first? And what about the Dick Schofield who played in the 1980's, I believe, for the Angels? Or Juan Beniquez? I've always thought of Baylor here as an outfielder or DH-type player, though, generally, I believe. CD out.

P.S. What about Jose Mendez for the Monarchs, if he's available somehow? He could quite possibly then help them here, I think. CD out.

[WooBallFan43]

Yeah I see no problems here! Other than not calling them Anaheim.

[Nick Soulis]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Good picks for the Angels, as far as I can currently tell, although I'll have to check out Bobby Bonds and/or Bartolo Colon, who might be better for other teams here with your scenario, before I can properly comment on those picks here. I can't actually remember Colon as an Angel, I think, though. Baylor could play first? And what about the Dick Schofield who played in the 1980's, I believe, for the Angels? Or Juan Beniquez? I've always thought of Baylor here as an outfielder or DH-type player, though, generally, I believe. CD out.

P.S. What about Jose Mendez for the Monarchs, if he's available somehow? He could quite possibly then help them here, I think. CD out.

Colon won the Cy Young Award in 2005 with the Angels.

[WooBallFan43]

I would assume Chili Davis (SF) and Chone Figgins (SEA) are on other teams?

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Probably no room on Cleveland, at least, for Colon, then? Even if that's the case, there's probably still better places than the Angels for him here, like the Mets, I think. But it's still your scenario, of course, Nick. And I think the Angels should be California, but again, not my scenario, obviously, here. As for Tanana, no room for him on the Tigers? Bonds might be better with Barry, or not, but the Giants are probably stacked with high-quality outfielders, come to think of it. And Barry probably wouldn't fit in Pittsburgh as well as New York/San Francisco with Stargell and others like the Waners, for instance, in Pittsburgh, I suspect.

As for managers for the Angels, why not use Gene Mauch for them instead of Scioscia? Seeing as the Dodgers should probably have Campanella and one or both of Scioscia and/or Piazza. Unless you want Piazza on the Marlins or Mets instead, for instance, that is. CD out.

[WooBallFan43]

Tanana's known as an Angel, Barry "Cheater" Bonds never played for Anaheim, and Scioscia's the best Angels manager by far. Piazza would be fire for Miami, and with Pudge backing him up, Miggy at the hot corner the Marlins are lowkey insane.

C: Piazza, Pudge
1B: IDK. Garrett Cooper? Justin Bour?
2B: Dee Gordon?
SS: Hanley
3B: Miggy Cabrera, Lowell
OF: Stanton, Ozuna, Yelich, etc.
SP: Fernandez, Sandy, Willis, Beckett
6S: Henderson Alvarez?
RP: Nen, Conley, Ramos, IDK

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I was referring to Bobby, Barry's father, WBF43. Pudge is clearly a Ranger, in my view. I'd probably have Miguel Cabrera either on the Tigers or Marlins, and Lowell on the Marlins. Conine, for his part, if not in this scenario as a Royal, should be on the Marlins, seeing as he's Mr. Marlin, after all, in essence. As for the Astros, how about adding Hunter Pence, potentially, to the roster, if I remember him best as such. Or Justin Bourn, if not, and if Bourn was an Astro at some point in time? As a player, Scioscia fits the Dodgers well, I believe, no matter if the Dodgers are under Wilbert Robinson, Leo Durocher, Walter Alston, or Tommy Lasorda. Dave Roberts would probably be better as a player in this scenario, I think, though. And I believe Tanana was with the Tigers at least in 1984, for that matter. CD out.

[WooBallFan43]

Yeah but refer to Nick's rule of thumb,

"A reminder about the rules and objective of this league. Even if player has played one day with a franchise he is eligible to be on their roster. The goal is to build competitive balance across this league so that ALL teams have a chance and not a league dominated by the Yankees, Red Sox, and Cardinals."

Without that rule, the Marlins are gonna pull a 2024 White Sox and go like 30-130. And I already tried to get Miggy as a Tiger but understood Nick's reasoning. Lasorda probably is going to be the Dodgers manager anyway, and they already have some great catchers in Will Smith and Roy Campanella. Scioscia would be a seldom used third-string and wouldn't deserve a roster spot compared to the other Dodger legends on the team.
And again. Scioscia is the best Angels manager by far, so for you to throw all that away so he can sit on the bench for all 162 games is laughable.

[WooBallFan43]

Conine's a good shout, forgot he existed! And I think you're referring to Michael Bourne, not Justin Bour. Pence in my mind will always be a Giant, + the Stros have enough good outfielders.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

WBF43, I'd still suggest having Scioscia on the Dodgers as a player. I don't know Smith, so I favor Scioscia as Campanella's most likely backup here.

And Gene Mauch, I think, would be a good fit for the Angels, if not the Phillies, for that matter. If not as the manager, Guillen would be a good fit for the White Sox, too, in my view. I'd favor Robinson, Alston, or Durocher as the Dodgers manager, over Roberts or Lasorda, personally, if it were me creating this scenario, most likely, if I knew how to do it easily enough in any version of the game up through 22, at least.

I'm not throwing Scioscia's tenure with the Angels away. Not at all, for sure. But I still think he'd be a better fit in this scenario, given that I don't know much, if anything, about Will Smith yet, as a Dodgers catcher backing up Campanella, who's the clear starter for the Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers here, by far, especially if Piazza ends up on the Mets or the Marlins. About the only Will Smith I know about here right now is the actor, you see.

To be completely honest here with you, I really don't know much about most of the more recent players, or at least not as of yet, WBF43. I'm much more familiar with the pre-2020 MLB players than those many MLB players who debuted after 2019 or so here, I believe. And I still think that most, if not all, other players should generally have at least three productive seasons with their prospective teams here for this certain scenario before they each then get considered for those teams here. That's all. Of course, you and Nick and everyone else can certainly disagree here, but I still say that Mike Scioscia belongs most on the Dodgers here as a player, just the same. CD out.

[Nick Soulis]

Originally Posted by WooBallFan43

I would assume Chili Davis (SF) and Chone Figgins (SEA) are on other teams?

Yes Chili Davis will likely be on the Giants. We will see about Figgins.

Also someone mentioned Omar Vizquel earlier, he will also be on the Mariners likely as the back up and late innings defensive help behind ARod.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I don't know a Sandy on the Marlins. Care to enlighten me, or do you mean Randy Arozena or whatever his name is who came over from the Cardinals in that trade a few years back? Don't know some of those other names you mentioned for the Marlins, but Nen should perhaps be on the Giants, I believe, if there's room for him there. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I think I mentioned Vizquel, Nick. If he's not on the Indians, I'd most likely recommend him for the Mariners, given he meets the suggested minimum service time with them that I recommended for teams and their relevant players here earlier. Sutter barely qualifies for my beloved Cardinals by that yardstick, to be fair, because he had at least three productive years with them. Maybe Isringhausen might be a good pick for the Cards, the Angels, the Mets, and/or the Royals, at least, if memory serves me correctly, by that minimum standard. If I had to choose, I'd probably put him on the Angels, if he's not there already by now. CD out.

[WooBallFan43]

Sandy Alcantara
8 Seasons with MIA
Came over in the Ozuna trade 2018
2022 NL Cy Young
8 WAR season in 2022
First team All MLB 2022
2 Time All-Star
3.60 ERA 1.17 WHIP
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...lcansa01.shtml

Will Smith
8 Seasons with LAD
23 WAR
3 Time All Star
3 Time World Series Champ
2 Time Second Team All MLB
Postseason Hero multiple times including the Game Winning 11th Inning Home Run in Game 7 of the 2025 World Series, one of the best baseball games ever played.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...mithwi05.shtml

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

He's the one the Cardinals let get away, if I remember correctly, or was that Arozena or whatever his name is, the first player? As for the more recent seasons, I've kind of lost track of most of them, at least, over the last few years, at least, under Manfred, if not also under Selig. Who are both probably two of the worst Commissioners, if not the worst two, for MLB in history, as far as I'm concerned, and I believe many others might feel similarly to me here and now.

Baseball should never have gone to three divisions or resorted to Wild Cards, even if by doing so, that actually then allowed my favorite team to win at least one World Series, and/or other teams to do the same, in my view. Or instituted the DH, for example, in truth. But the rather unfortunate reality is that the universal DH is likely to stay present under the current inept leadership of Manfred and others here, in any case. Most, if not all, of the changes in baseball for the last 30-plus years have most likely been terrible ones, such as the ghost runner, the pitch clock, the general unwillingness of teams to let their starters go deeper into games, the increased numbers of pitchers on team rosters, when most of the players on those rosters should generally be position players, in actual reality, it seems to me. For 25-man rosters, I'd generally recommend no more than ten pitchers on an active roster at any time, if even that many. And let the starters pitch as long as they're doing so effectively, no matter how many pitches they may throw in a game, while we're at it. Just like the best players played nearly all the time in baseball history up through the beginnings of modern-day bullpen usage here like it's been developing over the past few years, if not decades, at that. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

How about Mike Hampton for the Astros, seeing as the Rockies aren't likely part of this scenario, along with Qualls, if they're not already on the team here? Or Enos Cabell or Geoff Blum or Morgan Ensberg? And George Springer in the outfield. Just throwing out some names of people who spent several years with the Astros here to perhaps consider, that's all.

Triandos would possibly be a much better pick for Baltimore than for Houston, seeing as he only played for the Astros in 1965. Especially if Hoyt Wilhelm was his teammate. In Triandos's place on the Astros, might I recommend Tony Eusebio or Humberto Quintero, for instance, instead? CD out.

[Tiger1022]

Originally Posted by WooBallFan43

Yeah I see no problems here! Other than not calling them Anaheim.

You spelled California wrong.

[WooBallFan43]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

How about Mike Hampton for the Astros, seeing as the Rockies aren't likely part of this scenario, along with Qualls, if they're not already on the team here? Or Enos Cabell or Geoff Blum or Morgan Ensberg? And George Springer in the outfield. Just throwing out some names of people who spent several years with the Astros here to perhaps consider, that's all.

Triandos would possibly be a much better pick for Baltimore than for Houston, seeing as he only played for the Astros in 1965. Especially if Hoyt Wilhelm was his teammate. In Triandos's place on the Astros, might I recommend Tony Eusebio or Humberto Quintero, for instance, instead? CD out.

Springer would be a good add but I think the Astros have a good collection of outfielders as of right now.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

How about Springer in place of Yordan Alvarez, perhaps, WBF43? Just a thought here, that's all. CD out.

[WooBallFan43]

I don't hate it but with what Springer's done for Toronto this last playoff run, he should be a Blue Jay for this exercise. Any other sim I probably would put him in Houston, but owing to the parameters for this challenge, Toronto makes the most sense for him. Springer, McGriff, Joey Bats, Joe Carter, Pillar potentially?