Combinator Cards 101: A Primer on How Combinators Work - Page 3

TwinsFan · 07-09-2024, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

I also feel this way. End the gimmick and let us quick sale those suckers.

Infinite dittos!

HRBaker · 07-10-2024, 09:00 AM

At this point flash selling all those cards would probably cause other issues like Whales buying them all up and using them to create super cards which would widen the gap between us and them even further.

As I said before, it seems the idea was implemented without all the possible issues fleshed-out beforehand. Simply a bad idea.

And I won't even start again on Future Legends...

LeeD · 07-10-2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBaker

At this point flash selling all those cards would probably cause other issues like Whales buying them all up and using them to create super cards which would widen the gap between us and them even further.

As I said before, it seems the idea was implemented without all the possible issues fleshed-out beforehand. Simply a bad idea.

And I won't even start again on Future Legends...

...as long as we're long gone into the land of superhero cards, how about some completely fictional superheroes?

Spiderman (CF). Defense 256. A web gem every night.

The Hulk (1B/DH). Power 256. Speed 1. Who needs speed when you're trotting around the bases after launching another bomb?

Batman (SP). Spitball 256. New features for the bat utility belt.

Superman (all positions, super-sub). Speed 256. Power 256. Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive.

Judge Dredd (C). Catcher Arm 256. Don't even think about stealing on this guy.

Luke Cage (SS). All ratings 192. The most well-rounded player on the roster. Makes Ozzie Smith look like Don "Bootin'" Buddin.

HRBaker · 07-10-2024, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

...as long as we're long gone into the land of superhero cards, how about some completely fictional superheroes?

Spiderman (CF). Defense 256. A web gem every night.

The Hulk (1B/DH). Power 256. Speed 1. Who needs speed when you're trotting around the bases after launching another bomb?

Batman (SP). Spitball 256. New features for the bat utility belt.

Superman (all positions, super-sub). Speed 256. Power 256. Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive.

Judge Dredd (C). Catcher Arm 256. Don't even think about stealing on this guy.

Luke Cage (SS). All ratings 192. The most well-rounded player on the roster. Makes Ozzie Smith look like Don "Bootin'" Buddin.

ROFL

BusterKing · 07-11-2024, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HRBaker

At this point flash selling all those cards would probably cause other issues like Whales buying them all up and using them to create super cards which would widen the gap between us and them even further.

I see your point and it makes sense. Don't forget that they might like the idea since the whales will spend more money.

Do the cards go on the market if they are sold by quick sale?

dishnet34 · 07-11-2024, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

I see your point and it makes sense. Don't forget that they might like the idea since the whales will spend more money.

Do the cards go on the market if they are sold by quick sale?

Quick selling means they're gone forever. They do not show up on the Card Shop.

Kushiel · 07-11-2024, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD

...as long as we're long gone into the land of superhero cards, how about some completely fictional superheroes?

Spiderman (CF). Defense 256. A web gem every night.

The Hulk (1B/DH). Power 256. Speed 1. Who needs speed when you're trotting around the bases after launching another bomb?

Batman (SP). Spitball 256. New features for the bat utility belt.

Superman (all positions, super-sub). Speed 256. Power 256. Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive.

Judge Dredd (C). Catcher Arm 256. Don't even think about stealing on this guy.

Luke Cage (SS). All ratings 192. The most well-rounded player on the roster. Makes Ozzie Smith look like Don "Bootin'" Buddin.

This is hilarious. Too bad that it is the present game description. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

Kushiel · 07-11-2024, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dishnet34

Quick selling means they're gone forever. They do not show up on the Card Shop.

They need to be gone forever.

HRBaker · 07-11-2024, 12:12 PM

It's easy to get caught up in what terms we use; "flash sale" versus "quick sell" probably means the same thing, but what I was describing was "IF" the cards were sold based on their OVR minimums in the card shop, the Whales would eat them up. If they were "quick sold" then what Dish said - they would disappear.

And I have to agree with Kushiel; they need to be gone altogether unless some significant changes are made;

1) "fixed" amount of points to upgrade (no gambling)
2) card shop sale at upgraded value
3) "quick sale" value of base cards at OVR value plus 10%

That said, I would rather see them gone forever. We simply don't need more "superman cards" unless your going to change the entire game to fictional players.

biggerme · 07-23-2024, 01:10 AM

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This result of the point value is then multiplied with a factor based on the OVR and whether or not the card is a Live one.

What is the factor value? And formula would be also great

erad677 · 07-23-2024, 09:23 PM

Came to the forums to see if anyone had positive things to say about these. Not seeing it. LOL. In my opinion, interesting idea, but the choice of cards you can upgrade seems to mostly suck and the amount of resources you need to burn to upgrade them doesn't seem worth it. Am I missing something?

biggerme · 07-24-2024, 01:45 AM

Why is that Chance % at all used here? Its not like I will try to do an upgrade without 100% anyway, cost and time it takes to acquire Combi Food which is just lost when you try 30%, 50%, 88%. Just keep it as points required to upgrade and that is all.

Would be transparent and clearly understandable at least

Fabtron7 · 07-24-2024, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by erad677

Came to the forums to see if anyone had positive things to say about these. Not seeing it. LOL. In my opinion, interesting idea, but the choice of cards you can upgrade seems to mostly suck and the amount of resources you need to burn to upgrade them doesn't seem worth it. Am I missing something?

I think your first mistake was going to an Internet forum and expecting to see anything positive about anything ever

99LVAces · 07-25-2024, 01:00 AM

Does anyone know what the "T4 Ep. 2" in front of a combinator card is?

biggerme · 07-25-2024, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 99LVAces

Does anyone know what the "T4 Ep. 2" in front of a combinator card is?

There is nothing, its just a prefix to Card Name, an annoying one in that.

biggerme · 07-25-2024, 02:23 AM

So
its official, Bronze Combinators are the worst, to extent that minimum price compared to Iron, Silver, Gold tier guarantee that those will not attract in Market any interest as Combi Food. When possible just use them yourself, market is not going to get attracted to premium prices for dismal Combinator Points, I did round it down to exact thousands, usually minimum price ends with "001" but who cares about that
There are cards with minor synergies increase in Combi Points for Bronze Cards but its so small that it has no positive impact to Price Performance

99LVAces · 07-25-2024, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by biggerme

There is nothing, its just a prefix to Card Name, an annoying one in that.

Thank you, the values seems to be much higher on this series and I have not found any above gold. Yesterday I pulled a combinator with that prefix and was about to sell it until I realized how much it was worth. Now I just want to learn about that series.

Matt Arnold · 07-25-2024, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 99LVAces

Thank you, the values seems to be much higher on this series and I have not found any above gold. Yesterday I pulled a combinator with that prefix and was about to sell it until I realized how much it was worth. Now I just want to learn about that series.

They were cards released during the treasure trove content release. The episode 2 cards were released earlier this week, and are some of the newest cards in the game. You can catch the stream on our Twitch channel (the latest episode is here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2205383542)

biggerme · 07-26-2024, 02:51 AM

Request to OOTP:

Just a small request, Bronze Combinators are mistreated, minimum price sits at 5001 but these are worth only 200 Combinator Points. Iron Combinator have better value at this point, which seriously hampers anyones ability to sell those Bronze combinators, either increase received Combinator Points to base 250 or min price reduced to 4001. That would bring value received par to Iron combinators, just not better.

It would limit to some extent all of that criticism about CC cards sitting idle in Market

Chris Marquardt · 08-07-2024, 02:25 PM

With the upcoming patch we will add the feature to remove the combinator status of a card (and it's upgrades). The card will switch to the normal version and can then be quicksold if not locked by a mission.

07-10-2024, 09:00 AM	#42
HRBaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,249	At this point flash selling all those cards would probably cause other issues like Whales buying them all up and using them to create super cards which would widen the gap between us and them even further. As I said before, it seems the idea was implemented without all the possible issues fleshed-out beforehand. Simply a bad idea. And I won't even start again on Future Legends... __________________ *HRB*

07-11-2024, 12:12 PM	#49
HRBaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,249	It's easy to get caught up in what terms we use; "flash sale" versus "quick sell" probably means the same thing, but what I was describing was "IF" the cards were sold based on their OVR minimums in the card shop, the Whales would eat them up. If they were "quick sold" then what Dish said - they would disappear. And I have to agree with Kushiel; they need to be gone altogether unless some significant changes are made; 1) "fixed" amount of points to upgrade (no gambling) 2) card shop sale at upgraded value 3) "quick sale" value of base cards at OVR value plus 10% That said, I would rather see them gone forever. We simply don't need more "superman cards" unless your going to change the entire game to fictional players. __________________ *HRB*

07-24-2024, 01:45 AM	#52
biggerme Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Estonia Posts: 251 Blog Entries: 10	Chance% Why is that Chance % at all used here? Its not like I will try to do an upgrade without 100% anyway, cost and time it takes to acquire Combi Food which is just lost when you try 30%, 50%, 88%. Just keep it as points required to upgrade and that is all. Would be transparent and clearly understandable at least __________________ OOTP WIKI

07-25-2024, 02:23 AM	#56
biggerme Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Estonia Posts: 251 Blog Entries: 10	CC pricing imbalance So its official, Bronze Combinators are the worst, to extent that minimum price compared to Iron, Silver, Gold tier guarantee that those will not attract in Market any interest as Combi Food. When possible just use them yourself, market is not going to get attracted to premium prices for dismal Combinator Points, I did round it down to exact thousands, usually minimum price ends with "001" but who cares about that There are cards with minor synergies increase in Combi Points for Bronze Cards but its so small that it has no positive impact to Price Performance Attached Images __________________ OOTP WIKI

07-26-2024, 02:51 AM	#59
biggerme Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Estonia Posts: 251 Blog Entries: 10	Bronze Combinators Request to OOTP: Just a small request, Bronze Combinators are mistreated, minimum price sits at 5001 but these are worth only 200 Combinator Points. Iron Combinator have better value at this point, which seriously hampers anyones ability to sell those Bronze combinators, either increase received Combinator Points to base 250 or min price reduced to 4001. That would bring value received par to Iron combinators, just not better. It would limit to some extent all of that criticism about CC cards sitting idle in Market __________________ OOTP WIKI

07-23-2024, 09:23 PM	#51
erad677 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 4	Came to the forums to see if anyone had positive things to say about these. Not seeing it. LOL. In my opinion, interesting idea, but the choice of cards you can upgrade seems to mostly suck and the amount of resources you need to burn to upgrade them doesn't seem worth it. Am I missing something?

07-25-2024, 01:00 AM	#54
99LVAces Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2024 Posts: 18	Does anyone know what the "T4 Ep. 2" in front of a combinator card is?

08-07-2024, 02:25 PM	#60
Chris Marquardt OOTP Developments Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 570	With the upcoming patch we will add the feature to remove the combinator status of a card (and it's upgrades). The card will switch to the normal version and can then be quicksold if not locked by a mission.