Contract Extensions make NO sense!

[ThePretender]

Originally Posted by Viridel

a) going from 2M 1-year to 3M 1-year isn't negotiation. I wanted 6 years - so let's have a counter-offer reflecting that... That's how negotiation works.

Obviously the player doesn't want a 6 year extension because it would go into at least 3 FA years. The majority of players don't like giving up free agent years, and unless it's for a massive contract, won't give them up.

b) As I stated above, all I want is information. IF I want to offer this term WHAT does the player likely want?

He did reply - he wanted 1 year. Just because you want a multi year deal doesn't mean the player does.

You think this is an issue because you don't see how easy it is to manipulate the AI into ridiculous contracts. I do. That's why I don't have a problem with the negotiations being tougher, because in previous versions they were far too easy.

[Viridel]

Originally Posted by injury log

You claimed your contract offer would overwrite his arb-awarded salary. You misled a lot of people who believed you, and wasted my and others' time posting here to correct you. And now you're just acting like a patronizing jackass. Enjoy the game.

So, since I'm right on the Arbitration thing, does that give me free reign to be a patronizing jackass

[Viridel]

Originally Posted by ThePretender

He did reply - he wanted 1 year. Just because you want a multi year deal doesn't mean the player does.

As has been proven with several examples, just because a player wants 1 year, that doesn't mean they won't accept a longer term if the salary is right. This same argument has come up a few times, and purely-and-simply - it's not the correct argument because it's quite easy to prove otherwise.

[SFGiantsFan]

Originally Posted by Viridel

So, since I'm right on the Arbitration thing, does that give me free reign to be a patronizing jackass

I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure contracts will roll over as soon as free agency filings occur so that means his arbitration will roll through and even if you offer a contract it could be for the next season after the award. I say this because no one responds to a contract that quickly and there's only a few days between arbitration rewards and free agency filings.

[Viridel]

Originally Posted by SFGiantsFan

I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure contracts will roll over as soon as free agency filings occur so that means his arbitration will roll through and even if you offer a contract it could be for the next season after the award. I say this because no one responds to a contract that quickly and there's only a few days between arbitration rewards and free agency filings.

You're right, it was that one magic day. I was going to try to "change" my contract on the other guy in the screenshot, but I screwed up and advanced the day, and you're right - as soon as the filings are made, the contract year bumps. If I would have proposed that before advancing the day, and since it was the contract he requested, would it have been accepted as his 2020 salary (overwriting the current award), or as his 2021 extension.

I'm sorry that I screwed up on this test, but it's not worth reverting to the backup and the game already saved to the current date.