2006 Oakland A's Thread - Page 18

mlyons · 04-12-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Swisher can strike out all he wants, but he better walk more and slug better, that's my point. Johnson struck out less, walked more, and slugged better yet he's being tossed to the side because he can't play the outfield and wasn't a highly publicized first round pick.

Johnson has hit a homerun once every 29 plate appearances, on average; Swisher's hit one every 26. Johnson walks once every 8.7 plate appearances; Swisher once every 9.4. There's not much difference there. Almost all the difference between the two is wrapped up in their difference in batting average.

johnnyshaka · 04-12-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

If you look at the post-ASB splits, Swisher and Johnson were nearly identical in every stat EXCEPT strikeouts and batting avg. Johnson had 38 and Swisher had 60. Johnson hit .267 and Swisher hit .226, and Johnson had an OPS advantage, .793 to .776

PRE ASB numbers had Johnson at a .832 OPS, and Swisher at .759, the biggest difference being Johnsons .379 OBP compared to Swisher's .311

From watching the games, it really looked like Johnson had difficulty adjusting to defenses putting an infield shift on him. Swisher, however, showed signs of improvement from 1st half to 2nd half in 2005.

Anyways, I don't know wtf I'm talking about :P You guys are the sabr guys, I'm just a hack who's trying to learn about statistical analysis.

Have another look at the numbers, Mike, DJ's numbers dipped in the second half as a result of a terrible month of September. But, if you look at both DJ and Swisher month to month, DJ had a better OPS every month except for September and Swisher was nothing special during that month either, DJ just had a REALLY bad month.

Rizon · 04-12-2006, 07:03 PM

I made the mistake of pointing out Huston Street to my wife. Hours later he was my new desktop background in XP (we have seperate logins, but she replaced my hot latina chick).

johnnyshaka · 04-12-2006, 07:04 PM

Time to show her the Guest the Chest thread...that should fix things.

JDOldSchool · 04-12-2006, 09:04 PM

EARTH TO ASSHAT:

Marco Scutaro needs to be playing a minimum of five times a week while he's hitting .467!

I really want Ken Macha to take a long leave of absence. Maybe it'll turn out that he's been throwing games and the A's can get a manager who understands concepts like "Don't have Mark Ellis bat leadoff when he isn't hitting while a hot as hell Marco Scutaro is rotting on the bench."

Edit: Ellis flies out on the first pitch of the game. I hate you, Ken Macha.

JDOldSchool · 04-12-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Well, comparing a guy who's OPS is 100 points higher than the other is pretty silly, don't you think?? If you are willing to make that comparison, then who would take between Dunn and Ortiz??

Ok, we're in agreement in principle I think. Somewhere we're not connecting well. But, you know, there's lots of people who would take Ichiro over Dunn and call us fools for thinking otherwise. If we're limiting this to just hitting, I want Dunn over Ortiz, too. But if you said I had to take Ortiz as my DH I wouldn't fight it.

When I'm comparing two players, strike outs really might be the last thing I consider. Ok, I'll look at that before sac bunts. But you get the idea. I really just don't put very much stock into it at all.

bananapancakes · 04-12-2006, 09:46 PM

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Green & Gold Heart · 04-12-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bananapancakes

www.tradeEstebanLoaiza.com

Unfortunately because he's was a free agent, we have to wait til June 15th.

Green & Gold Heart · 04-12-2006, 10:02 PM

dola,

With the off day we could have skipped him in the rotation, but Macha doesn't have the cajones.

EDIT: I typed this as the three-run homer left the bat.

mikev · 04-12-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

EARTH TO ASSHAT:

Marco Scutaro needs to be playing a minimum of five times a week while he's hitting .467!

I really want Ken Macha to take a long leave of absence. Maybe it'll turn out that he's been throwing games and the A's can get a manager who understands concepts like "Don't have Mark Ellis bat leadoff when he isn't hitting while a hot as hell Marco Scutaro is rotting on the bench."

Edit: Ellis flies out on the first pitch of the game. I hate you, Ken Macha.

You need to click the link in my signature, ASAP.

JDOldSchool · 04-12-2006, 10:41 PM

I'm not sure I can accurately describe the awesomeness of watching Aaron Rowand hit a 2 run homer about 4 minutes before Nick Swisher hits his second homer of the night. No time for a refractory period!

Uh... yeah.

JDOldSchool · 04-12-2006, 10:45 PM

Why is Halsey in when the Twins are up by 1 run? I wouldn't trust this guy with a 10-run lead.

Macha, wake up!

sean-patin · 04-12-2006, 11:55 PM

Twins win 6-5.... the only positive of that (and miniscule at that) is that Joe Nathan is on one of my fantasy teams and got a save.... but that drops the A's to 5-4.... still early tho... i love the firemacha.com!

Green & Gold Heart · 04-13-2006, 12:01 AM

Going to the Metrodome always sucks. Hopefully Bob's Big Boy can keep us from getting swept and then it's back home for nine games.

JDOldSchool · 04-13-2006, 12:06 AM

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You need to click the link in my signature, ASAP.

So I clicked the link and I now have a new favorite website.

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Originally Posted by Best F'ing Blog of All Time

I'm glad that Scutaro got pinch hitting duties last night, but jesus Ken, you vacuous piece of ****; why are you so damn stupid?

I'm still laughing at that.

mikev · 04-13-2006, 01:40 AM

Yup. Another convert.

darkhorse · 04-13-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

But, you know, there's lots of people who would take Ichiro over Dunn and call us fools for thinking otherwise.

I'd much rather have Suzuki 2001-2005 over Dunn in the same period.

darkhorse · 04-13-2006, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

No time for a refractory period!

Refractory?

Is the memory still refractory fresh?

darkhorse · 04-13-2006, 02:39 AM

A's GM must be really stupid to hire and then stick with Macha as manager. To bad he isn't as sharp as the savvy Oakland fans.

Still, Beane didn't sign David Ortiz to an extension, so there's hope for him, yet.

JDOldSchool · 04-13-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

I'd much rather have Suzuki 2001-2005 over Dunn in the same period.

Why's that? I was talking just offensively; Dunn has been superior to Ichiro each and every season over the past five years.

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JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	EARTH TO ASSHAT: Marco Scutaro needs to be playing a minimum of five times a week while he's hitting .467! I really want Ken Macha to take a long leave of absence. Maybe it'll turn out that he's been throwing games and the A's can get a manager who understands concepts like "Don't have Mark Ellis bat leadoff when he isn't hitting while a hot as hell Marco Scutaro is rotting on the bench." Edit: Ellis flies out on the first pitch of the game. I hate you, Ken Macha. Last edited by JDOldSchool; 04-12-2006 at 09:14 PM.

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Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	dola, With the off day we could have skipped him in the rotation, but Macha doesn't have the cajones. EDIT: I typed this as the three-run homer left the bat.

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JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	I'm not sure I can accurately describe the awesomeness of watching Aaron Rowand hit a 2 run homer about 4 minutes before Nick Swisher hits his second homer of the night. No time for a refractory period! Uh... yeah.

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JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Why is Halsey in when the Twins are up by 1 run? I wouldn't trust this guy with a 10-run lead. Macha, wake up!

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sean-patin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 205	Twins win 6-5.... the only positive of that (and miniscule at that) is that Joe Nathan is on one of my fantasy teams and got a save.... but that drops the A's to 5-4.... still early tho... i love the firemacha.com!

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