I don't know why my player be injured ?

[esiberg]

Today when I continued playing the game I saved, I am superised that I got a injured player( Sizemore ) out for the season.
I remember he was healthy when I saved the game.
Maybe I miss the information happened in the game. So I tried to search the injured news and his career history. Unfortunally, I do not find any injured news about Sizemore.

There should be injured news when someone was hurt, right??

[HolyCow98]

Did you get an email...sometimes they get hurt "off the field", such as in a bar room fight ect ect....

[darkhorse]

In the LOB, the online league in my sig, Juan Gonzalez was on pace to win Rookie of the Year AND AL MVP. He picked up a season ending injury with no injury recorded in a boxscore, in his player history, or any email or team report.

This bug has been part of OOTP since I started playing it with version 4. Longtime supporters of the game get very frustrated with Markus when the same bugs, which have been noted ad infinitum in these forums, return anew to the dismay of one and all.

[Carlton]

Darkhorse,

No big words...from the context of his wording, it seems English is his second language...

The point is...It is a bug in the game...hasn't been fixed in 3 versions. Becoming a problem.

I would suggest edit him back to OK, instead of injured.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Carlton

I would suggest edit him back to OK, instead of injured.

It's an online league. Editing player injuries isn't really an option.

[alinkens]

sure it is.. Just email the commisioner and if he is a OOTP Vet he will probably agree to edit the player healthy...

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by alinkens

sure it is.. Just email the commisioner and if he is a OOTP Vet he will probably agree to edit the player healthy...

Editing an injured player isn't an area I would want to go into in an online league.

Wouldn't matter at this point as the season is concluded.

[wireman]

I had a "phantom injury" to a franchise-caliber player in one of my leagues. I remarked to the commish how curious it was (it was the first time I'd seen such a thing). He said it was a bug and edited the player.

Depends on your commish I guess.

[streetballer67]

Originally Posted by wireman

I had a "phantom injury" to a franchise-caliber player in one of my leagues. I remarked to the commish how curious it was (it was the first time I'd seen such a thing). He said it was a bug and edited the player.

Depends on your commish I guess.

If that happened to one of my guys in my solo league I would feel no shame in using the editor...try that esiberg.

[alinkens]

I am a commish in two leagues. If a human wants a player edited I bring it to a vote among the other players. I feel that is the fairest way to do it.

[CalvinHobbes]

The same thing happened to me, a player injured, but no email or note in injury news. When I look at the player, though, it says he has the stomach flu. Out for a week! Anyways, I left him alone. Still have a day to go. The only part I don't like, is that I cannot replace him on roster with a triple A guy while he recovers. I can only assume that is following normal baseball rules.

[wireman]

Originally Posted by alinkens

I am a commish in two leagues. If a human wants a player edited I bring it to a vote among the other players. I feel that is the fairest way to do it.

In fairness to the commish to whom I referred,, I should note that he did bring it to the attention of the other GMs and made it a blanket rule for such situations. It wasn't special treatment or anything.

In fairness to me, I should note that I didn't ask him to do anything.

[Eckstein 4 Prez]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

This bug has been part of OOTP since I started playing it with version 4. Longtime supporters of the game get very frustrated with Markus when the same bugs, which have been noted ad infinitum in these forums, return anew to the dismay of one and all.

Yes and yes. Fortunately, I haven't been stung badly with this one, but some of the other longtime bugs are just maddening. I really wish we could stop talking about new bells and whistles for V7 long enough to fix the many bugs that infest the current version.

My current least favorite is the fact that the game doesn't generate real stats that add up anymore. Playing out 40-50% of my games in my solo league (currently in 1873), I notice that about once every 2-3 games, someone will reach on an error, yet it won't be noted as an out - so the batter's at-bats will not match up if you try to account for the outs on the box score. Irritating, to say the least, and because it's fairly minor I have little hope of it being squashed anytime soon.

Too bad, really, because for the first time I've got an 1870's league going that actually seems to generate realistic stats and pretty good player development. The vanishing player bug has been, if not vanquished, at least uninvolved in my current league. I'm finally doing what I've wanted to since the beginning - real players, real schedules, real park effects, and real photos when available - so every bug really bothers me since I've put so many hours into getting the other things right.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

Yes and yes. Fortunately, I haven't been stung badly with this one, but some of the other longtime bugs are just maddening. I really wish we could stop talking about new bells and whistles for V7 long enough to fix the many bugs that infest the current version.

I said the same thing in this forum and got flamed for three pages for saying it. There are a lot of legacy bugs that need to completely fixed before we march on into the brave new world of Version 7, but no one wants to hear that.

[Eckstein 4 Prez]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

I said the same thing in this forum and got flamed for three pages for saying it. There are a lot of legacy bugs that need to completely fixed before we march on into the brave new world of Version 7, but no one wants to hear that.

That very thread made me really fear for the future of OOTP. Basically, I think it boils down to two camps: the sabermetrics camp, which is obsessed with statistical realism, realistic player development and a bug-free game, and the bells-and-whistles camp, which prioritizes the MLB license, more and better options for in-game managing, and a general upgrade to the "roleplay" aspects of the game.

Since SI is very good at the roleplay aspects and Markus already seems to have a love for implementing new bells and whistles when the old ones don't work exactly right, I think it's clear the direction things are headed, particularly when you consider the fact that in the larger marketplace (sports fans rather than text sim fans), the bells-and-whistles camp is much larger. The sad thing is that a decision in this direction will make things worse for all concerned: the sabermetrics camp, while smaller, is a very vocal minority that can really build a LOT of grassroots support, or a LOT of grassroots opposition. (See the last few years of Baseball Mogul vs. the last few years of OOTP for examples.)

At any rate, I don't mind any additions to the next version, but if bugs dating back to OOTP 3 and 4 are still around, I'm not going to be happy about it. I actually think the time is ripe for a new baseball sim to come along.... hopefully that new sim will be the new-and-improved OOTP. If it's not, hopefully someone else will step in and fill the void.

[Malleus Dei]

Eck, I agree with all of that.

If Markus keeps going bells-and-whistles instead of hardcore simulation, sooner or later someone is going to step in and make a more realistic baseball simulator.

[JDOldSchool]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

I said the same thing in this forum and got flamed for three pages for saying it. There are a lot of legacy bugs that need to completely fixed before we march on into the brave new world of Version 7, but no one wants to hear that.

You mean Head-to-Head ISN'T the most important computer game feature in the entire history of computer games? And here I thought I was the only one that would much rather the game work properly than anything else.

I really hope this doesn't start another H2H debate...

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

And here I thought I was the only one that would much rather the game work properly than anything else.

Far from it. There are a number of us that agree with you.

[streetballer67]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Far from it. There are a number of us that agree with you.

You can put me on that list as well, although I do find it important to see features added from Vx to Vx.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

I'm finally doing what I've wanted to since the beginning - real players, real schedules, real park effects, and real photos when available

If needed, I may be able help in this regard. I've collected photos of about 700 of the 2,000 players who debuted in the 19th century.

At www.sabr.org, they have a project underway to collect an image of every player in MLB history. So far, they've found photos for 16,000 of the 17,000 players. Pretty much every image they are wanting for comes from the 19th century. No surprise, as the first baseball cards didn't arrive until 1884.