Time Warp Baseball

[Matt from TN]

Originally posted by jdw
His march to 4000 hits that last month was in a bit of "style" as he went 17/53 for a .321 BA. Hit number 4000 was a double on 09/20/36, and it looks like he came around to score. Any details on that and the 2000th run, Matt? Such who the 4000th hit was off? And when and how the 2000th run was scored?

His 2000th run came on Sept. 7th as he went 1-for-3 in a 2-1 10th inning win over Cleveland. I don't have the box score anymore, but I doubt he scored in the 10th since he had just 3 at-bats.

Hit 4000th hit did indeed come on Sept 20th in a 5-6 11th inning loss to the Yankees. He went 1-for-2 with a walk, and it was the next-to-last game he started.


On another note, I'd like to point out that long-time Athletic "Bull" Zegri topped 1600 RBI, 600 Doubles and 1400 walks this season, putting him near the top of each category. He is one of several great A's who will likely retire with no World Championship, despite 4 pennants in 8 years.

[Tyke]

Not bad for an old guy! Granpa Levi leads the NL in steals at the age of 38. Perhaps his nickname should be changed to "Ricky"?

[Vris]

First off, I'd like to thank Matt for giving me control of the Bees (but they will be the Braves by the time I get them...thank god....I couldn't own a team who was called the Bees).

Second, I'd like everyone to see this fact:
Last World Series Championship:
1918 - BOS

a little too eerie, isn't it?


Thirdly, it's time to break up the Yankees. 4 straight pennants? 3 straight WS titles? So not fair. When will another team step up in the AL? Cleveland has had a solid team for a few years now and should've made "the leap". Bring on '37!


Oh, and Go Bees!

[metsgeek]

Originally posted by scprideandms
Bourbon got ripped on Gold Glove he made NO errors this last season!!!!

It's hard to make an error when you're too drunk to field the ball.

[jdw]

Vris wrote:

> Thirdly, it's time to break up the Yankees. 4 straight
> pennants? 3 straight WS titles? So not fair. When will
> another team step up in the AL? Cleveland has had a
> solid team for a few years now and should've made
> "the leap".

This seemed like the year the Yanks would fall off, since they didn't play consistent in the regular season. Come the playoffs, they seemed to flip the switch. A bit like the 2000 Yanks bumbling through the season, then winning the World Series.

Annoying.


John

[Fanronia]

Originally posted by Matt from TN The Yankees became the first team in history to win 3 straight World Series!

I just checked my grandpa's profile, and I saw this

Won World Series with New York (A) in 1933...
Won World Series with New York (A) in 1934...
Won World Series with New York (A) in 1935...
Won World Series with New York (A) in 1936...

I think that menas Yankees actually win 4 straight WS, not 3.

[Matt from TN]

Originally posted by Fanronia
I think that means Yankees actually win 4 straight WS, not 3.

You're right... for some reason I thought they lost the first of their 4 straight WS appearances... So, they were the first team to win 3 straight WS last season, and now it's 4 straight!

[Fanronia]

Originally posted by Matt from TN
You're right... for some reason I thought they lost the first of their 4 straight WS appearances... So, they were the first team to win 3 straight WS last season, and now it's 4 straight!

Evil Empire !?

Chi's promoted to active roster and played with his brother in the late season, but didn't play well enough yet. However, he's only 19, still a long way to go!

[Matt from TN]

Originally posted by Vris
Second, I'd like everyone to see this fact:
Last World Series Championship:
1918 - BOS

a little too eerie, isn't it?

Wow, I hadn't thought of that... I thought it was strange enough when the White Sox actually got to the 1919 WS and lost despite being heavy favorites (That happened naturally, btw, and not by design)... Then they came back in 1920 to win one... Now the Red Sox WS jinx is on... If only the Cubs never win another pennant after this one, we'll be set!! Did anyone see a goat at this last World Series?

[Matt from TN]

1937 Offseason News

In January, Cincinnati fell victim to its worst flooding disaster ever as rising water overwhelmed the lower city limits and Crosley field. At its peak, river water covered the infield diamond and lower grandstands with as much as twenty-one feet of water.

The second group of Hall of Famers were elected by the BBWAA. Here are the results:

Whiskey Allen, C
Cap: Indians
Vote: 93.8%
Teams: Cleveland A.L. 1901-1922
Plaque: Allen was the first player to hit .400, and he was the first player to reach 3000 hits. He won 4 batting titles, 2 BOY Awards, one Gold Glove and one World Championship with Cleveland in 1915. He had 3291 hits (Most All-Time), a .343 lifetime average (6th Best All-Time), 1112 RBI (7th Most All-Time), 1558 runs (Most All-Time), 703 stolen bases (2nd Most All-Time), 350 triples (6th Most All-Time) and 3 hitting streaks over 20 games.



Raymond Gindler, SP
Cap: Browns
Vote: 81.3%
Teams: Milwaukee A.L. 1901, St. Louis A.L. 1902-1916
Plaque: Gindler was, without question, the best pitcher of baseball's first generation. He dominated the American League, particularly in its first decade when he won 4 POY Awards. He finished with the most wins of all time and clearly would have added more, perhaps surpassing 300, if he had not suffered a series of damaging arm injuries from 1913 to 1915. He finished his career with a 274-177 record (Most Wins All-Time), 2.21 ERA (2nd Best All-Time), 432 complete games (2nd Most All-Time), 75 shutouts (Most All-Time) and 1977 strikeouts (5th Most All-Time). He recorded those numbers despite pitching less than 20 games every season since 1913. At the time of his injuries, he had the best career marks in wins, ERA, strikeouts, complete games and shutouts before being passed in a few categories prior to retirement. He led the AL in ERA 7 times from 1901 to 1911 and he led the league in WHIP every season over that 12 season period. He won three pennants with the Browns organization - which were known as the Milwaukee Brewers in 1901 - and he pitched no-hitters in 1905 and 1907.


John Falise, RF
Cap: Phillies
Vote: 75.0%
Teams: Philadelphia N.L. 1910-1932
Plaque: "Pops" was the last great slugger to play in both the "deadball" era and the new livelier era. Before playing most of 1932 as a backup outfielder and bench coach, he was the all-time leader in career homeruns. He finished his career with a .302 average, 3152 hits (6th All-Time), 544 doubles (3rd All-Time), 464 triples (Most All-Time), 236 homeruns (2nd All-Time), 1693 RBI (Most All-Time) and 1661 runs scored (3rd All-Time). He won three straight BOY Awards from 1925-27. He led the NL in homeruns and RBI from 1926-28. He set a short-lived NL record for homeruns with 26 in 1928. He also won 5 World Series with the Phillies.



*Note that all rankings (i.e. 2nd All-Time) were at the time of the players retirement. What happened after they retired does not reflect on their plaque.

[Matt from TN]

Key Retirees:


Tobe Palmer, SP
Philadelphia Phillies 1921-36
Chicago White Sox 1921, 1936



Palmer was the first star pitcher the the Phillies would develop on their way to a dynasty that gripped the NL through much of the 20's and 30's. He was the patriarch of the "Phantastic Phour" - the named given to Philadelphia's four stellar starting pitchers that carried the team through its five World Series championships. He never led the league in ERA, but he finished in the top 10 nine times over twelve seasons. Along with five World Championships, he retires with a 266-185 record, 3.48 ERA, 1763 strikeouts, 395 complete games and 37 shutouts.


Other Notable Retirees:

Marcus Fortson, SS
Braves 1921-36

.282, 1781 H, 438 2B, 134 HR, 1053 RBI, 933 R
A rare power-hitting shortstop, Fortson was an offensive catalyst for the Braves as they rebuilt their struggling franchise into a two-time NL pennant winner. He won one World Series and 3 Gold Gloves. A ruptured MCL in 1932 hastened the end of his career, and he did not reach 100 at-bats in his final two seasons.


Benjamin "Jersey" Piccininno, SP
Cleveland Indians 1922
New York Giants 1922-1927, 1933-34
Boston Braves 1927-1933
Detroit Tigers 1934-36
St. Louis Cardinals 1936

167-147, 4.24 ERA, 845 K, 162 CG, 18 SHO
Switching teams 5 times in his career, Jersey never had much of a chance to settle into a role on any one single team. The closest he came to that was parts of 7 seasons he played with the Braves. Over that time, he played on two NL champions, and won one World Series.

[Matt from TN]

Retiring Ancestors:


Will Miller, LF
Washington Senators, 1913-36



After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases. His 1399 RBI ranks 10th all-time. His first career hit was a triple on April 12th, 1913 off former White Sox pitcher Dexter Wolfe. At that time, many current major leaguers were infants or not even born. He went on to collect another 3999 hits, and his last one came at the end of this past season against the Yankees' Luke Riley. He was part of all three Washington pennants, winning two World Series - the first of which came in his rookie year - and posting a .351 World Series average. He won 2 BOY's and 2 Gold Gloves. He had 5 hitting streaks of 20 or more games and 10 games where he collected 5 or 6 hits. He set an AL record with 227 hits in 1920, which was broken three years later. He won 4 consecutive batting titles and twice hit .402 (finishing 2nd in the AL one of those times). He led the AL in hits 7 times and runs 3 times, and he finished in the top 10 in stolen bases 20 times over a 21-year period.

[Matt from TN]

Ancestors Added in 1934:

The forum only allows me to insert 1 image in a post, so I have to separate the rookies into their own posts.


Artie Albrecht, CF, Cincinnati Reds



Artie should provide some much needed offensive help in the near future for the Reds. He is an excellent hitter and could someday challenge for a batting title. He is also an exceptional fielder, which in itself would earn him a starting job someday. He begins the season at AA, but there are no other players standing between him and a job in the majors, so he could be on the fast track.

[Matt from TN]

"Jungle Jim" Dunkel, 3B, Washington Senators



Jim is one of the best power-hitting third base prospects to come along in some time. As an added bonus, he is a good hitter who could be a career .300 hitter. He has good plate discipline, and is hard to strike out. It may be tough for him to get a job in the majors with 1936 AL BOY Carl Kahle in his way, but if he develops into the kind of hitter he someday should, Kahle could be asked to move to first base. For now, Dunkel will begin his pro career in AA.

[Matt from TN]

Bonnard "Lil' Beaver" Shadle, 2B, Boston Bees



Shadle is an outstanding defensive infielder, playing either second base or shortstop. He is a capable hitter, but a good eye at the plate helps him get on base frequently enough that someday he should earn a starting job. The Bees currently have a wealth of middle infielders, like David Hunter and Hewie Bartecko, on the major league roster, so finding a starting job could be a problem. He should begin this season in Single-A.

[Matt from TN]

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1935 Season Preview

American League

Frustrated with their lack of success over the past several seasons, Detroit decided it was time to find a new manager. They could not find anyone within their own organization whom they felt could properly handle the job, so they turned to former Cubs manager Willie Bevan, who had a 769-771 record in 10 seasons for Chicago. He was largely credited with turning around that franchise after 5 consecutive seasons with 90 or more losses. In his tenure, the team finished 2nd in the NL three times and the season after he departed, they went to the World Series. The Tigers hope he can do the same thing for them - rebuild the team and bring respectability to the franchise.


1. Yankees (87-67, 1st) - They struggled at times last season, but proved they were still the top dog on a crowded porch. They won their 4th straight World Series by defeating a tough Cubs team. Some key players are aging, but the team began to phase them out last season, so the conversion to newer players should not be too tough. For a great veteran team, these guys are actually quite young.

Top Starters:
SP Art Booth (22-9, 2.83)
SP Luke Riley (21-16, 4.06)
SP Hale Scheepers (15-12, 4.06)

C Harry Finley (.286, 61 RBI, 37 SB)
1B Ralph "Thunder" Tumbridge (.281, 22 HR, 86 RBI)
2B Swervin' Ervin Skjerly (.334, 83 RBI)
SS Clarence Davis (.495 in 111 AB)
LF Jimmy "The Schnozz" Ditty (.296, 30 HR, 120 RBI)
CF Ping "The Outlander" Hung (.351, 78 RBI, 75 SB)
RF "Moonlight" Graham (.309, 61 RBI, 54 SB)

Top Prospects:
3B Chi Hung (Majors)
SS Billy Alexander (AAA)
SS Nicky Barker (A)


2. White Sox (79-75, T-4th) - They are coming off a mediocre season, but there is a lot of talent here. Strong starting pitching and a growing offense. Pitching depth would be their biggest concern.

Top Starters:
SP George Cone (19-14, 3.18)
SP Babe Hardin (21-15, 3.52)
SP Ken "Stuffy" Zinn (16-10, 4.15)

C "Sunny" Davie (.257, 14 HR, 81 RBI)
C/1B/3B Rollie McCord (.318, 13 HR, 97 RBI)
SS Jamie Kubic (.302, 57 RBI)
CF Julius Meilleur (.302, 48 RBI) - btw, he was the very last pick in the 1931 draft!

Top Prospects:
SP Bob "Stretch" Bussmann (Majors)
1B Gordon "Scotty" McCarthy (Majors)
SP Bill Bailey (AA)
SP Hale Sullivan (AA)


3. Athletics (82-72, 2nd) - They had a great run last season and gave the fans something to cheer about once more. As has always been the case, their picthing staff is a big question. Does this team have enough gas in the tank for one more run?

Top Starters:
SP Abraham Dickens (18-17, 3.85)
SP Mark Ponfick (18-13, 3.87)

1B Sal Rossi (.349, 92 RBI, 103 BB)
2B Jerry "Slap" Hertzog (.287, 59 RBI)
SS Sean Carlin (.305, 93 RBI)
LF "Bull" Zegri (.324, 74 RBI)

Top Prospects:
RF Hershel Cooley (AAA)
SP Mel Kauble (AA)
SP Terry Lucewicz (AA)
SP Sam Stumm (A)
1B Dwight Searcy (A)


4. Indians (80-74, 3rd) - Frustration is beginning to set in after several near-misses. Manager Ben Lafayette's job may be on the line, and several key players are now up in age with nothing to show for their efforts.

Top Starters:
SP George "The Joker" Bowers (21-13, 3.48)
SP Sam Vidas (16-17, 3.81)

C Cookie DeWitt (.305, 11 HR, 69 RBI)
LF Charles Netzer (.339, 50 RBI)
RF Bill Berry (.362, 10 HR, 89 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Billy Crowell (AAA)
C Fred Storey (A)
3B Paul Varghese (A)


5. Browns (79-75, T-4th) - With such great pitching, they're bound to have a good season right? They have some key players on offense, but need more. It's about time for the lower half of the rotation to really show their worth after years of talk on their "potential."

Top Starters:
SP Lewis Lamson (20-12, 3.92)
SP Gerald Saxton (17-12, 3.54)

2B Jude McGill (.364, 89 RBI)
3B Steven "Babylon" Bussell (.349, 81 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Tony Krinke (Majors)
SP "Schoolboy" Emberling (AAA)
SP "Cotton" Simson (AA)
SP Don "Chubby" Allen (A)


6. Senators (79-75, T-4th) - They started and finished well last season, but everything in between was terrible. Franchise icon Will Miller is gone, taking his sometimes burdonsome presence in the lineup off their shoulders. They have a solid pitching staff and some good, young hitters. Like the 5 teams above them, they have the potential to capture the pennant.

Top Starters:
SP Jethro "Dodge" Lee (26-8, 2.62)
SP Micky Guyton (15-20, 4.63)

3B Carl "Dutch" Kahle (.331, 23 HR, 127 RBI)
SS Blake "Hitman" Crocitto (.340, 10 HR, 79 RBI)
LF Wolter Tjeenk-Willink (.352, 70 RBI)
CF Sam Kass (.293, 14 HR, 101 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Leopold Funk (AAA)
SP Johnny Gordley (AA)
3B "Jungle Jim" Dunkel (AA)
LF Genarito Nunez (AA)
SP Gordie Crum (A)
CF Al Yawn (A)


7. Red Sox (61-93, 8th) - They have one of the better offenses in the AL, but their pitching situation is still disastrous. Converting closer Mitch Haynam to a starter was a mild success, and they hope rookie Mickey Lonergan can help - because he's their only solid pitching prospect left in the system.

Top Starters:
SP Mitchell Haynam (16-17, 4.65)

CF Howard Sheridan (.275, 24 HR, 88 RBI)
RF Tyrell Chestnut (.305, 11 HR, 65 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Mickey Lonergan (Majors)
RF Hackin' Jack Zenisek (AA)
C Cecil Marziani (A)


8. Tigers (69-85, 7th) - This franchise still seems to be going nowhere. Along with the Red Sox, they have won just one pennant in the league's 36-year history. They continue to build on offense, but their woeful pitching staff needs more help. They have some good pitching prospects, but they are all in the low minors.

Top Starters:
C Gordon Meadows (.320, 60 RBI)
1B Quenton Misisca (.285, 31 HR, 117 RBI)
3B Troy Kinnear (.303, 25 HR, 89 RBI)
SS Adolf Greisbach (.344, 61 RBI)
LF John Storback (.321, 15 HR, 72 RBI)

Top Prospects:
C Bud Moore (Majors)
1B Denny Caneer (AAA)
SP Alex Footwangler (A)
SP Clay Pattishall (A)
SP Scott Solderits (A)

[scprideandms]

What about Tequila as star for Sox .345 BA!!!!

Jr may be next Allen to reach a milestone, albeit 300 losses, only needs 15!!!!

[scprideandms]

oh and Tequilia has almost 600 career hits and only 22!!!!!!

[Matt from TN]

National League

The Cubs proved last season just how much better than the rest of the league they have become. They finished 14 games ahead of the Dodgers, who were easily the second best team in the league, but had a miserable September. The Phillies and Bees look more and more like their glory days have passed, but another key player here or there could catapult either of them back into the heat of the pennant race.


1. Cubs (98-56, 1st) - They were disappointed with their World Series loss, but they proved they were the class of the NL by winning 98 games and finishing 14 games ahead of 2nd place Brooklyn. They have a mighty pitching staff and great offense to boot. They could be winning pennants for many years to come.

Top Starters:
SP Buck Anderson (17-10, 3.27)
SP "Punchy" Cote (20-5, 2.27)
SP David Wickersham (25-8, 3.89)
SP Alex Winterhalter (20-8, 3.77)

C Earle Clipp (.291, 53 RBI)
1B Howard "Cookie" Parrish (.325, 28 HR, 115 RBI)
2B Mark Easton (.281, 57 R)
3B David McAuliffe (.311, 13 HR, 97 RBI)
SS Vincent Weatherly (.340, 59 RBI)
CF Dave "Red Fox" Arkless (.312, 24 HR, 104 RBI)
RF Jeff Tiptmann (.339, 95 RBI)

Top Prospects:
C "Spud" Liggett (AAA)
RF Lloyd "Jumbo" Winfrey (A)


2. Dodgers (84-70, 2nd) - They failed to win a 3rd straight pennant after a disastrous September. Their offense is second-to-none, but one more starting pitcher would be a big help.

Top Starters:
SP Frank Smith (15-13, 4.24)

1B Jeff Bundy (.332, 25 HR, 133 RBI)
2B Brad Coffenberger (.382 in 157 AB)
2B F.X. Ditty (.336, 10 HR, 80 RBI)
SS "Fancy" Flip DeLeon (.356, 75 RBI)
LF Oscar "The Kid" Vancini (.352, 47 HR, 133 RBI)
RF Jonathan Wright (.363, 79 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Marv "Dazzy" Pope (Majors)
SP James "Sloppy" Mosich (A)
1B Dennis Kitterman (A)


3. Bees (80-74, 4th) - Their pitching may not be what it once was, but it is still a team strength. Their offense is good enough to help them compete, but it is far from the quality they would need to give the top 2 NL teams some real competition.

Top Starters:
SP Bourbon Allen (25-12, 3.61)
SP Otto "Kaiser" Kahle (19-10, 3.39)

C Dud Dietzsch (.307, 62 RBI)
2B David "Harlequin" Hunter (.300, 72 RBI, 103 BB, 48 SB)
LF John Schmeider (.322, 11 HR, 89 RBI)
RF George "The General" Ward (.311, 82 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP Scottie Allen (AAA)
SP Troy "The Ghost" Fromme (AA)
2B Bonnard Shadle (A)


4. Phillies (72-82, T-6th) - Despite a 6th place finish, they were just 10 games below .500 in a tight NL. Some of their prospects have developed quicker than anticipated, so they believe they can get back to the World Series soon. Only two of the "Phantastic Phour" remain on the team but they seem to have an endless supply of pitchers coming up through the minors. Their offense is still mediocre, but the worst news is that what few stars they have are all in their mid-to-late 30's. After all these years, it is still unknown why they never trade some of their pitching depth for offensive help.

Top Starters:
SP Scott Fenner (13-17, 4.08)
SP Terry Schukraft (23-11, 3.35)

Top Prospects:
SP Bill Tschetter (Majors)
SP Randall Bray (AAA)
SP Tom "Sheriff" Zonneveld (A)


5. Giants (82-72, 3rd) - They have a lot of talent, but they just don't seem to have enough to make them elite. With no pitching depth, any serious injury would tank their season. If healthy, they will remain competitive.

Top Starters:
SP Clint Rohm (10-19, 4.90)
SP Cliff Umbaugh (24-10, 3.61)

C Lloyd Johnson (.326, 25 HR, 117 RBI)
2B Bobby "Tree" Martin (.313, 10 HR, 90 RBI)
3B Dale Lamberty (.328, 33 HR, 123 RBI)

Top Prospects:
SP George Kinchloe (Majors)
SP Gerald Thienemann (A)
LF Joe Bearden (A)


6. Cardinals (55-99, 8th) - It is hard to believe a team could go from 99 losses to a 6th place finish and be competitive in just one season, but that is what St. Louis is poised to do. They had more injuries last season than any other team in recent memory. They have some good, young pitchers and an exciting offense. The future should be bright for this franchise.

Top Starters:
SP Peyton Arana (Just 2 starts due to injury)

3B Martin Bartholomew (.386, 15 HR, 65 RBI in just 264 AB due to injury)
SS Rob "Pretty Boy" Forrestal (.343, 56 RBI)
CF Bill "The Imp" Sheeder (.390, 83 RBI, 49 SB)

Top Prospects:
SP Wally Saeger (Majors)
C Herman Dunkel (Majors)
CF Morton Chamblee (Majors)
2B Skeeter Schaldemose (AA)
SP Cecil Klee (A)


7. Reds (72-82, T-6th) - They have a good pitching staff, but their offense is in terrible shape. Unfortunately, there is no help in sight.

Top Starters:
SP Danny "Slim" Fitzgerald (12-16, 3.84)
SP Roy "Boots" Mills (14-8, 3.69)
SP Brett Smith (18-15, 4.38)

C Benny Eremitani (.319, 64 RBI)
1B Hank Faver (.308, 11 HR, 73 RBI)
3B Alan Liao (.308, 75 RBI)

Top Prospects:
CF Artie Albrecht (AA)
LF Mitch Leibowitz (A)


8. Pirates (73-81, 5th) - Despite a positive showing last season and a wealth of young talent in the organization, this team has little hope to compete this season. Their pitching staff is a mess and their offense offers very little immediate help.

Top Starters:
SP "Tex" Blakemore (18-12, 3.53)
SP William O'Neill (22-12, 4.39)

CF Bud Breckenridge (.321, 12 HR, 79 RBI, 55 SB)

Top Prospects:
SP Kyle Stevens (Majors)
2B Willie Young (AAA)
SP Ace Shipley (A)
2B Cutter Brekke (A)
CF Danny Reeves (A)

[Hank Greenberg]

If Knuckleball starts to live up to his potential this year, watchout for Pittsburg. They have two pretty good starters already, adding a third may jump them up a ton.