Why do you think the scoring in our league is so low?

tyleraven10 · 12-11-2025, 11:45 AM

Context: This is a 32 person sim league on FHM 12 and we are in season 1. The majority of us control our own lines and roles, while Id say roughly half of us control our tactics. That said, while I have seen something like this before, the potential fixed we tried below seemed to always make a difference, whereas it definitely hasn't fixed anything yet.
I've attached a picture which includes our league statistics with averages, along with them averaged out to an 82 game season and compared with a prior league I ran which had rather typical offensive environment.
Currently teams are averaging around 2.3 goals per game, which is way down from the 3.1-ish I would typically expect. On top of this, shots are down to just 25 a game vs anywhere from 29-31 which I would typically expect. The league is also currently averaging 9 PIMs/G, when I usually see it around 6. The league has extremely low power play percentages, while also having a truly obscene amount of shorthanded goals scored.
After the first month, we switched all the coaches from the default of very defensive and very physical to balanced and balanced. Didn't make the offensive impact we were hoping for.
After the second month, we also increased every coaches attributes from 7/20 to 15/20 across the board and bumped up goals per game from 6.16 to 6.2. This still somehow barely made a dent
After the 3rd month, we then bumped the goals per game up from 6.2 to 6.7, which despite increasing offense in a test sim we did, was unable to change the offensive environment in the league for the following month as goals across the league went slightly down.
Ive also attached our highest scoring forwards leaderboard. Perhaps the low offensive game ratings and high defensive game ratings explain this too, or theyre more just symptom rather than cause.

What else can realistically be done? Has anyone else had similar issues and is there anything you did to solve it that hasn't been addressed yet?

tomkmb · 12-11-2025, 03:24 PM

Are you using the Classic sim engine or 2D sim engine for your league?

For the 2D engine there's actually been a lot of reports of the total opposite in this years game, that offense runs very high - so it would be good to know.

If you suspect that something is actually not right here and it's not just a case of an unfortunate combination of coach tendencies/player talent levels (though this shouldn't be the case at the start of a game) it may be worth uploading the save somewhere and submitting this on the tech support/bug forum so they can take a look and investigate why the offense is running lower than expected/desired.

Empol · 12-11-2025, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tomkmb

Are you using the Classic sim engine or 2D sim engine for your league?

For the 2D engine there's actually been a lot of reports of the total opposite in this years game, that offense runs very high - so it would be good to know.

If you suspect that something is actually not right here and it's not just a case of an unfortunate combination of coach tendencies/player talent levels (though this shouldn't be the case at the start of a game) it may be worth uploading the save somewhere and submitting this on the tech support/bug forum so they can take a look and investigate why the offense is running lower than expected/desired.

Hey, I'm the guy who runs the file in question, the sim is currently set to own league games 2d, rest classic, which to my understanding means that it would be simmed in 2d.

tomkmb · 12-11-2025, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Empol

Hey, I'm the guy who runs the file in question, the sim is currently set to own league games 2d, rest classic, which to my understanding means that it would be simmed in 2d.

Thanks, well I guess that rules out the most obvious cause - I would say it's worth uploading the save somewhere and re-directing this post to the 'tech support' forum, though it's not a bug per se, something is not working as expected and it's worth letting Jeff/Sebastian take a poke around in there to try and understand why. Instructions on uploading a save can be found here - https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=341827

Alternatively, you can upload it to a file sharing site of your choice like Google Drive or Dropbox and post the link. As it's an MP league - you'll need to PM the commish acc details to Sebastian/Jeff so they can take a look.

12-11-2025, 11:45 AM	#1
tyleraven10 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2023 Posts: 21	Why do you think the scoring in our league is so low? Context: This is a 32 person sim league on FHM 12 and we are in season 1. The majority of us control our own lines and roles, while Id say roughly half of us control our tactics. That said, while I have seen something like this before, the potential fixed we tried below seemed to always make a difference, whereas it definitely hasn't fixed anything yet. I've attached a picture which includes our league statistics with averages, along with them averaged out to an 82 game season and compared with a prior league I ran which had rather typical offensive environment. Currently teams are averaging around 2.3 goals per game, which is way down from the 3.1-ish I would typically expect. On top of this, shots are down to just 25 a game vs anywhere from 29-31 which I would typically expect. The league is also currently averaging 9 PIMs/G, when I usually see it around 6. The league has extremely low power play percentages, while also having a truly obscene amount of shorthanded goals scored. After the first month, we switched all the coaches from the default of very defensive and very physical to balanced and balanced. Didn't make the offensive impact we were hoping for. After the second month, we also increased every coaches attributes from 7/20 to 15/20 across the board and bumped up goals per game from 6.16 to 6.2. This still somehow barely made a dent After the 3rd month, we then bumped the goals per game up from 6.2 to 6.7, which despite increasing offense in a test sim we did, was unable to change the offensive environment in the league for the following month as goals across the league went slightly down. Ive also attached our highest scoring forwards leaderboard. Perhaps the low offensive game ratings and high defensive game ratings explain this too, or theyre more just symptom rather than cause. What else can realistically be done? Has anyone else had similar issues and is there anything you did to solve it that hasn't been addressed yet? Attached Images

12-11-2025, 03:24 PM	#2
tomkmb All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,649	Are you using the Classic sim engine or 2D sim engine for your league? For the 2D engine there's actually been a lot of reports of the total opposite in this years game, that offense runs very high - so it would be good to know. If you suspect that something is actually not right here and it's not just a case of an unfortunate combination of coach tendencies/player talent levels (though this shouldn't be the case at the start of a game) it may be worth uploading the save somewhere and submitting this on the tech support/bug forum so they can take a look and investigate why the offense is running lower than expected/desired.