JG's IPA

[jg2977]

1977 Manager of the Year

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1977 Cy Young & MVP

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1978 Hall of Fame

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, let's both see what we can come up with by the end of the week for appropriate enough changes to certain things in this league. At least in terms of new players and all, and also try and see just when we can schedule each of the new players' first potential appearances in your IPA, that is, jg2977.

Let me know which players I've privately suggested to you here that you want some proposed profiles for, and I'll try to send you their proposed details privately, if I haven't already, as soon as I can, please. Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then, as well, of course. CD out.

[jg2977]

I’m not sure if I want to realign for 1978 or wait on that. For new players that you suggested I was going to add the two that you already sent me profiles for

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, we'll talk more later, then, about various things. It may take at least a little while longer to set everything up as needed and desired here, I think. Maybe by the end of 1980, at the latest, we can have everything set up as then needed and desired here, as well.

1981 would be the 81st season of your league, it seems to me. The 80th Anniversary season would probably be the best time to do the changes you might have in mind here, actually. By then, we can perhaps even have certain looks for teams that would be much more appropriate for the 1980s already in use or soon to arrive for possible use by many teams, or at least a few of them, I think.

The 1980s began in 1981, it seems, technically, so maybe we can see many teams with new looks by then, more appropriate for the 1980s and/or later times. I think the blue away uniforms the Cardinals wore in the late 1970s and/or the 1980s are some of the best uniforms they've worn before, in concert with their associated home uniforms, at least for the most part, if not entirely.

Thank you for your time and attention here, and I had a thought here you may want to consider here, as well, jg2977. What if New Yerby was on the border between the two applicable nations of your IPA, much like Berlin was for many years, for instance. One part of it could be in the first nation's part of the proposed isthmus, and the other in the second nation's part of it? Please advise as you like and can, then. That is all for now, I suppose. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Now that AG and GC have finally won a title together, it seems, maybe they can finally go out together, once their only/elder sons play with their fathers for at least one year apiece. Yes, if AG does retire a year before his current contract is due to expire at the end of the 1979 season, he'd be leaving a year's salary on the table, if he retires at the end of the 1978 season. But that'd be fine, I think, if that comes to pass, just the same.

Have you thought about creating at least one new league, if not more than one, for those over a certain age, with players from your league's history? Like a league for those who've made your relevant dynasty's Hall of Fame, for instance? It would be rather interesting to see those in the 50-70 years old age range, or even 80 or 100 years of age, competing against each other.

Of course, you'd probably have to tinker at least a little bit, if not a lot, here in order to create a Hall of Fame-type league setup here, for instance, I think, jg2977. It probably would be rather interesting to actually see if more recent players who've made your Hall could do well against those who have been retired for years or even decades in your IPA dynasty somehow.

Talk more later, at time permits and all, I'm quite sure here, in any case. Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then, everyone. That's all for now, I think. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

jg2977, could you please post updated information related to both current Freemans, in terms of their overall career statistics and all, as soon as possible? GC first, and then AG second, please? I'd really appreciate it, of course.

Once they both have definitely retired finally, and made the Hall of Fame, if not before then, then I would really like to see their entire awards and special events histories, if possible, as possible and all. Especially any lines related to potential no-hitters and other special events for either or both of them, which you might see on a player's history page. Like hitting certain statistical milestones, for instance.

As far as their respective Hall of Fame teams, when they finally get in, GC is definitely going in as a Celtic, while AG is definitely going in as a Blazer. I would have preferred both to go in as Celtics, in this case, but that won't be possible, for reasons we both certainly know by now. I'm glad they finally were able to get at least one title with each other, though, in any case. Which was my hope all along, at least, of course. Thanks again for having them in your league for so long, as well, jg2977. I can't wait to see what the next generation of Freemans and their rivals might be able to do here, for sure, come to think of it. CD out.

[jg2977]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Okay, we'll talk more later, then, about various things. It may take at least a little while longer to set everything up as needed and desired here, I think. Maybe by the end of 1980, at the latest, we can have everything set up as then needed and desired here, as well.

1981 would be the 81st season of your league, it seems to me. The 80th Anniversary season would probably be the best time to do the changes you might have in mind here, actually. By then, we can perhaps even have certain looks for teams that would be much more appropriate for the 1980s already in use or soon to arrive for possible use by many teams, or at least a few of them, I think.

The 1980s began in 1981, it seems, technically, so maybe we can see many teams with new looks by then, more appropriate for the 1980s and/or later times. I think the blue away uniforms the Cardinals wore in the late 1970s and/or the 1980s are some of the best uniforms they've worn before, in concert with their associated home uniforms, at least for the most part, if not entirely.

Thank you for your time and attention here, and I had a thought here you may want to consider here, as well, jg2977. What if New Yerby was on the border between the two applicable nations of your IPA, much like Berlin was for many years, for instance. One part of it could be in the first nation's part of the proposed isthmus, and the other in the second nation's part of it? Please advise as you like and can, then. That is all for now, I suppose. CD out.

You could put New Yerby on the border of the two nations, that’s fine.

I do want to go to a 16-team playoff, so for 1978 I will add four more wild cards, upping the total from 12. Then I’ll realign in probably 1980 or 1981.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Okay, jg2977. Sounds good. According to my listings, I think there are three potential rivals that I mentioned that seem to be at least old enough now to perhaps play in your IPA, in time for 1978, so I'll be sending you their proposed profile details as soon as possible. Maybe even today, if I can manage it. Specifically the profiles for Calemund Holmes, Tiamghan Parvenol, and Sikander Garber, at that.

But first, I think I really need to know just what teams are most in need of help at certain positions, in relation to the teams of yours that you are using at least some of my items for. Especially if they haven't done fairly well of late. That's so I can hopefully better tailor these three potential rivals of the new Freemans to be added for 1978, that is.

Ralph Clairborne probably won't be at least old enough until 1980 or 1981 at the earliest, in terms of your IPA. While the other three potential rivals from the Holmes family will each have to wait at least a little while longer, of course. By my math, if GC has the birth year of 1933 in your IPA, the youngest of the potential rivals to the proposed next-generation Freemans would be then born in 1974. This would likely mean that he couldn't play until 1993 at the earliest, it seems to me. Calemund would have to play at least fourteen or fifteen years, I think, in order to have a potential chance of playing with his youngest brother, as well.

Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then, jg2977. I can't wait to see what happens after the first-generation Freemans have finally retired, and all, and that will most likely happen within the next few seasons, or even the next season, at most. GC's about done, even if we might have to tinker with his ratings a bit so that he can finish out as a two-way player either in 1978 or 1979. I really want to see him try and ultimately hit those statistical levels I mentioned earlier for him, if possible. Now that he's finally won a title with AG, I just basically want to see him reach 400 wins and 5000 strikeouts, if possible, in his career before it's finally over for him as a player, at least.

Talk more later, as time allows and all, I'm quite sure. Lord willing and all, of course. Keep an eye on your inbox, and I'll try to have those other three profile proposals sent to it once I know which teams might need them most of your teams that are using items I've already made here. Except for the Mets, of course. I haven't yet done any Delacroix Cubs-related items, or whatever you call the Delacroix team here, but I suppose I could add them to my list of teams to perhaps try and tackle here, if you want.

I've done certain prospective items for the Denton City Redbirds already, it seems, as you know. However, you're probably using knuckler's fine work for them at present, at least for the most part, if not entirely. That's perfectly fine with me, of course. But if you want me to make more for them, I'll certainly see what I can do, jg2977, then I'll see what I can do, as soon as I can. Especially if you would like me to try and tackle the Delacroix team here as well, that is. CD out.

[jg2977]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Okay, jg2977. Sounds good. According to my listings, I think there are three potential rivals that I mentioned that seem to be at least old enough now to perhaps play in your IPA, in time for 1978, so I'll be sending you their proposed profile details as soon as possible. Maybe even today, if I can manage it. Specifically the profiles for Calemund Holmes, Tiamghan Parvenol, and Sikander Garber, at that.

But first, I think I really need to know just what teams are most in need of help at certain positions, in relation to the teams of yours that you are using at least some of my items for. Especially if they haven't done fairly well of late. That's so I can hopefully better tailor these three potential rivals of the new Freemans to be added for 1978, that is.

Ralph Clairborne probably won't be at least old enough until 1980 or 1981 at the earliest, in terms of your IPA. While the other three potential rivals from the Holmes family will each have to wait at least a little while longer, of course. By my math, if GC has the birth year of 1933 in your IPA, the youngest of the potential rivals to the proposed next-generation Freemans would be then born in 1974. This would likely mean that he couldn't play until 1993 at the earliest, it seems to me. Calemund would have to play at least fourteen or fifteen years, I think, in order to have a potential chance of playing with his youngest brother, as well.

Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then, jg2977. I can't wait to see what happens after the first-generation Freemans have finally retired, and all, and that will most likely happen within the next few seasons, or even the next season, at most. GC's about done, even if we might have to tinker with his ratings a bit so that he can finish out as a two-way player either in 1978 or 1979. I really want to see him try and ultimately hit those statistical levels I mentioned earlier for him, if possible. Now that he's finally won a title with AG, I just basically want to see him reach 400 wins and 5000 strikeouts, if possible, in his career before it's finally over for him as a player, at least.

Talk more later, as time allows and all, I'm quite sure. Lord willing and all, of course. Keep an eye on your inbox, and I'll try to have those other three profile proposals sent to it once I know which teams might need them most of your teams that are using items I've already made here. Except for the Mets, of course. I haven't yet done any Delacroix Cubs-related items, or whatever you call the Delacroix team here, but I suppose I could add them to my list of teams to perhaps try and tackle here, if you want.

I've done certain prospective items for the Denton City Redbirds already, it seems, as you know. However, you're probably using knuckler's fine work for them at present, at least for the most part, if not entirely. That's perfectly fine with me, of course. But if you want me to make more for them, I'll certainly see what I can do, jg2977, then I'll see what I can do, as soon as I can. Especially if you would like me to try and tackle the Delacroix team here as well, that is. CD out.

I already have excellent graphics for the Delacroix Cubs. I'll use your South Fork graphics though, and then I'll put one of your players on the Stallions. What post number are they in your thread?

Looking at the teams' records for last season, it will be pretty easy to determine who needs the most help on their rosters. I'll make the decision of which players go on what teams,

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Post 2110 of my main graphics thread here on the forums has at least a few South Fork-related items, but no matching logo or logos just yet, if it ever will. Remember, all proposed players should go on at least one of your teams that I've made items for that you're using, for at least one year, if not longer, to start. Whether they're somehow related directly to GC and/or AG or not. Except for the Mets, of course. Not that I necessarily hate the franchise personally, mind you, but I just don't like the Mets, for some reason I can't quite explain. I really don't like the Chicago Cubs either very much, to tell you the truth, but I definitely do recognize them as a serious historical rival of the Cardinals for many years, in any case, at least.

I'll leave it entirely up to you which teams you place each of the new rivals for the various Freemans on to start, subject to the standard preferences here, then. Grover and Shelby should both start on Glasco, and stay on them at least for the first year of their active playing careers, if not longer. Carl should also start his career on Glasco's roster, if and when he appears, and after he's been with them for at least one year, let's just see where your dynasty takes him, career-wise. But please do not put any potential rival of any relevant Freemans on any team that has at least one Freeman, at least to start, on its roster, jg2977. Thank you. CD out.

[jg2977]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Post 2110 of my main graphics thread here on the forums has at least a few South Fork-related items, but no matching logo or logos just yet, if it ever will. Remember, all proposed players should go on at least one of your teams that I've made items for that you're using, for at least one year, if not longer, to start. Whether they're somehow related directly to GC and/or AG or not. Except for the Mets, of course. Not that I necessarily hate the franchise personally, mind you, but I just don't like the Mets, for some reason I can't quite explain. I really don't like the Chicago Cubs either very much, to tell you the truth, but I definitely do recognize them as a serious historical rival of the Cardinals for many years, in any case, at least.

I'll leave it entirely up to you which teams you place each of the new rivals for the various Freemans on to start, subject to the standard preferences here, then. Grover and Shelby should both start on Glasco, and stay on them at least for the first year of their active playing careers, if not longer. Carl should also start his career on Glasco's roster, if and when he appears, and after he's been with them for at least one year, let's just see where your dynasty takes him, career-wise. But please do not put any potential rival of any relevant Freemans on any team that has at least one Freeman, at least to start, on its roster, jg2977. Thank you. CD out.

I'll use your Kenwood uniforms too, and I'll put one of your created players on them as well. Kenwood is a franchise that is usually mediocre and can use some help.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

I need to know potential roster-related details for teams you're considering placing the rivals on, either now or for the foreseeable future, I think, to perhaps better be able to tailor the players to their expected starting teams. If Grover and Shelby each have a birth year of 1960 in your IPA, and start in 1978, then Carl's birth year would have to be 1967, and he couldn't play for Glasco prior to perhaps 1985 or 1986.

Andrew Freeman's birth year would be 1964, so he couldn't be in before 1982 or 1983. His younger brother Kirk would have the birth year of 1968, so he couldn't be in before perhaps around the time his cousin Carl is roughly old enough to perhaps play as well. As for Orville, his birth year would be 1966 in your IPA, and he couldn't likely begin playing in your IPA until around the time of Carl's potential entrance into it, at the earliest. The last proposed Freeman to perhaps be added in this generation would be Rufus, and he'd be roughly thirteen years younger than either Grover or Shelby, so figure him to be born in early 1973, just before my actual birthdate in reality here. Meaning he likely couldn't be playing in the IPA before 1993, at the earliest.

Let me know when you want the relevant profile proposals sent your way for the remaining players, based on the information shared above and elsewhere, please, jg2977, and I'll get you them as soon as I can, and as best as I can, after you do. Thank you for your time and attention and all here, then. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Eligible teams for my proposed players are any team that I've done items for that you're using, except for the Mets, at this time. Except for those in the direct lines of either GC or AG, that is, to start. Those in their respective direct lines should always start on Glasco, unless I change my mind between now and their eventual appearances as players for them.

Grover, Shelby, and Carl are descendants of either GC or AG. So they should all start on Glasco's Celtics, and then stay with Glasco for at least one year, if not longer, before we largely let the game decide their career paths, wherever appropriate and all. Andrew and Kirk will descend from GC and AG's brother Duncan, who unfortunately never got to play in your IPA, while Orville and Rufus will descend from their other brother Elijah, who unfortunately never got to play in it either.

Andrew, Kirk, Orville, and Rufus can start on Glasco or one of the other eligible teams as you so choose. But never on any team one of the new rivals for the Freemans starts on, in any case, once they each finally appear, whether they're Holmeses or Parverols or Garbers or Clairbornes.

Talk more later as time allows and all, I'm sure. Lord willing and all, of course. Thank you for your time and all, and I look forwards to seeing the team-based roster rundowns for any team or teams that you're considering putting any of my proposed players on here. Including Glasco, obviously, you know. Please keep me posted and all, if you don't mind too much then here, jg2977. CD out.

[jg2977]

Can you tell me about the Freemans' rival families? What is their history? Is there bad blood between the families?

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Of course I can. I was going to mention the histories in my Freeman Family Chronicles-related dynasty thread or threads, actually, but I've not yet been able to do so, for various reasons.

I haven't decided whether or not to start the rivalry-related bits between the Freemans and their rivals in GC and AG's generation yet, or in the generation of their father Henry, or their paternal grandfather Clyde, but I'm thinking of starting it in Henry's generation at the earliest, and GC and AG's generation, at the latest.

So far I've worked out that Gordon Clyde's main rival is, or would have been in terms of your IPA, Jeremiah Holmes AKA Jerry for short, not just on the field, but off the field as well, especially in matters of the heart, with both interested in the woman who would ultimately be Grover Linus's mother, one Loretta Sarah Walton. Loretta has four daughters with Gordon after Grover's birth, those being Rebekah Joyce, Vera Myrtle, Allyson Hannah, and Louisa Gabrielle. After Loretta chooses Gordon for marriage, Jeremiah has to go elsewhere for a potential wife, and he ends up marrying another woman, who produces six sons and two daughters with him, who will be rivals of the Freemans as well, both male and female Freemans, of course.

As far as Arthyr's planned main rival, both on the field and off it, and especially in matters of the heart off the field, his main rival is, or would have been in your IPA, Bradley Parverol AKA Brad for short. They would be rivals when it comes to the second Walton sister, one Eileen Renee Walton. Arthyr wins Eileen's hand, much to Brad's dismay, at least, and they have Shelby Lloyd, Ellen Amelia, Carl Hubert, and Lydia Jean. While Brad eventually finds another woman to marry, Kekkin Schiano, and they have one son and three daughters, with them being Tiamghan, Viruba, Eillon, and Sonia, and all of their children except Tiamghan would be daughters of theirs. I'll leave it up to you as to which Freeman would be Tiamghan's main rival, once Grover, Shelby, and Carl's main rivals have been selected, then.

Duncan James's main rival is, or would have been in your IPA, Otis Garber. They would be serious rivals both on the field and off it, and they'd both be serious rivals when it came to matters of the heart. The woman in question that they'd both be going for would be Tabitha Kristine Walton, the third Walton sister. Once Tabitha chooses Duncan, Otis would have to go elsewhere for a potential wife and family, obviously. In the course of time, Duncan and Tabitha would produce Andrew Bernard, Kirk Tristan, Shirley Tatiana, and Viola Lesley. While Otis and his eventual wife, the former Lalua Ehlemnokra, would produce Sondra, Sikander, and Raylene. I will leave it to you to decide which of the Freemans that haven't already had rivals selected for them that Sikander could be a main rival for.

The fourth Freeman brother, which never made it into your IPA as a player, unfortunately, would be Elijah Moses Freeman. His main rival is, or would have been, in your IPA, Hugh Clairborne. Both on the field and off it, especially in terms related to matters of the heart. They would both be going for the fourth Walton sister, one Gloria Theresa Walton. After Elijah and Gloria marry, that forces Hugh to look elsewhere, after which he eventually finds and marries Sophia Draper. Elijah and Gloria eventually produce Orville Gregory, Susanna Calypso, Vivian Chantal, and Rufus Dario, while Hugh and Sophia produce Ralph Johannes and Saskia Carmen. Ralph would be the main rival of whatever Freeman is last to have a rival selected for them from the Holmeses, the Parverols, the Garbers, and the Clairbornes.

I have collected several, if not a lot of, generated fictional pictures for many of the relevant Freemans and/or potential rivals for the Freemans, actually, by now. If you want, I can post them later, jg2977. Or I can try to eventually send them to you, somehow, if possible. Although I don't really know how to do so safely enough at this point in time, et cetera.

Talk more later, as time permits and all. Thank you for your interest and all here, then, of course, jg2977. I'll try to get those profiles for three of the potential rivals sent to you as soon as I can, and as best as I can, too. Once you give me the necessary roster rundowns and all for the teams you'll be putting each of the new players on, whether they're Freemans or not, for sure. Whether privately done or not here, that is. CD out.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

The Holmeses that you have already selected for potential inclusion in your IPA, besides the one I am going to propose first are Wulfric Selywn, Botulf Cartwright, and Turstan Wigod. I will propose Calemund Woodward as a player first from that family, while Brian Hygelac and Elmer Osbald will not play in your IPA, but may produce children who eventually do.

Calemund will need to have a birthdate of August 22, 1958. Wulfric a birthdate of November 2, 1966. Botulf one of March 8, 1968, and Turstan one of December 29, 1974.

Tiamghan's birthdate will have to be April 6, 1960. His sisters are never going to play in your IPA, but they may be important later on here, just the same.

As for Sikander, his birthdate in your IPA will have to be October 18, 1959. His older sister Sondra and his younger sister Raylene will never play in your IPA, but they may perhaps produce children who play in your IPA later on, if that's all right with you.

As for Ralph, his birthdate, if he would play in your IPA, would have to be August 30, 1963, it seems to me. His younger sister Saskia won't be a player in your IPA, but maybe she could still play a part in your IPA's history, somehow.

Grover will be Gordon's only son, in any case. In terms of your IPA, his birthdate would have to be February 12, 1960. His sisters won't play in the IPA, for sure, but maybe they can produce offspring who eventually do, if your IPA dynasty lasts long enough somehow. Of course, I hope he has at least a halfway decent career here.

As for Shelby and Carl, they should hopefully get to have at least halfway decent careers as players. While their sisters might eventually produce some future IPA players as well, of course. Shelby's birthdate in your IPA would have to be April 29, 1960, while Carl's would have to be August 26, 1967.

Andrew is about four years younger than Grover and Shelby, and I've already mentioned his birth year, with a birthday of July 19th. And also the birth year of his brother Kirk, whose birthday would be on May 17th of the appropriate birth year. And I've also done the same for Orville and Rufus's birth years as well. I'll submit their proposed profiles at the proper times, upon request, of course, as soon and as best as possible. Orville's birthday would be October 24th, and Rufus's January 13th, in the applicable birth years for each of them, for sure.

Shelby might be a bit more aggressive in temperament, I think, than Carl or Grover, but we'll certainly have to see, of course, as time passes, for everyone here. Especially if you import him exactly as proposed, or as closely to how he was proposed, as possible, jg2977. Maybe he'll be a bit more difficult for at least a few people to deal with well enough in the clubhouse, at least, than Carl or Grover, but that isn't yet known here, of course.

Talk more later, as time permits and all, I'm sure. Lord willing and all, then, of course. CD out.

[jg2977]

I do plan on starting my 1978 season by Friday evening at the latest, so if you could please send me the player profiles that you want me to enter onto Glasco, and any other teams. Right now I have Grover Linus Freeman and Shelby Lloyd Freeman.