What determines "Catcher couldn't hold foul tip"

Mike Lowe · 10-29-2003, 11:31 AM

I've had a ton of these and they are costing my team a bunch of Ks. Does the C's range determine this? His fielding %?

Cooker · 10-29-2003, 11:45 AM

Good question. I'd like to know the answer, too.

I always assumed it has nothing to do with the catcher, that it's just another way the game "ups" the pitcher's pitch count by adding more foul balls. But maybe I'm wrong ....

ey215 · 10-29-2003, 12:30 PM

I could be wrong but:

If I remember correctly the game determines the result of the play as a foul ball and then selects a line of the play-by-play to give you. It's just a different line in the play-by-play.

Ktulu · 10-29-2003, 12:38 PM

In the game its just the play by play and in real life it is based on luck.

joncarlos · 10-29-2003, 01:49 PM

I posted this question a while back. It seems that it is just the sim's way of saying, no strikeout right now. The way I picture it is the pitchers' K rating says K, and then the batters' K rating says, hey not so fast.

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ey215 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 581	I could be wrong but: If I remember correctly the game determines the result of the play as a foul ball and then selects a line of the play-by-play to give you. It's just a different line in the play-by-play. __________________ "It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before. Most of all, it is about time and timelessness, speed and grace, failure and loss, imperishable hope - and coming home." Ken Burns, Baseball

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joncarlos All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 693	I posted this question a while back. It seems that it is just the sim's way of saying, no strikeout right now. The way I picture it is the pitchers' K rating says K, and then the batters' K rating says, hey not so fast. __________________ <a href =http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35167> 2003 Pirates Regular Season </a> <a href=http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40941> 2003 Pirates playoffs and off-season </a> <a href=http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44242> 2004 Pirates Season </a> <a href=http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47658> 2004 Pirates Playoffs and Off-season </a> <a href=http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48039>2005 Pirates Regular Season </a>

10-29-2003, 11:45 AM	#2
Cooker All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 592	Good question. I'd like to know the answer, too. I always assumed it has nothing to do with the catcher, that it's just another way the game "ups" the pitcher's pitch count by adding more foul balls. But maybe I'm wrong ....