Mound visit rule not part of OOTP?

[Hrycaj]

Along with everyone else’s suggestions on how to get the actual game moving faster something must be done about commercials. According to the link posted by cynical something like 51 minutes are devoted to advertising. I realize advertising drives the bus but couldn’t we have small screen ads or something going on during the “dead time” of the actual game? I also realize that the answer is already upon us. Baseball will turn to selling space on their jersey like European football does. They had already sold their souls to Nike starting with the 2020 season.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by krafty81

I would argue real world games could be sped up if the batter had to stay in the box after a ball or swing and miss. I am so sick of the "routines", opening and closing velcro on batting gloves, banging spikes, etc...

They already tried that, not allowing the players to step out except on a foul ball. They abandoned it, because the players did not like it. We mustn't upset our millionaire babies. They have to step out every pitch, so they can straighten their Batting Gloves.

[bertha]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

I don't think it is in the game. There is no setting for it as far as I know. Just 1 visit per inning.

MLB really only did it because they are always trying to combat game time as they have targeted "game time" as their ratings Achilles heel. Even though I believe it is the total lack of player personality. I mean coaches/umpires have more personality. But that is off topic.

OOTP can't handle "warm up" for the AI. I know I personally turned it off as I don't sim many games and not seeing the opposing team warm up pitchers it makes me forget to do so.

And I believe the only reason to do a mound visit in OOTP is to get your bullpen more tosses to get ready.

I think it's been alleged there might be some short term effect for your pitcher when in a bad situation. But I've have never seen it stated as 100% fact as a feature/mechanic of the game.

And even if there is some slight benefit of the visit besides reps for the bullpen there is no game mechanic to indicate this to us the human player. If it is a game mechanic the visits should at least produce some kind of "smiley" effect like it does for player personality. Then it be a mechanic. Oh this pitcher likes visits and this one doesn't etc.

It's all speculation about "slight" calming effect. But there is no mechanic for calming effect anywhere. It doesn't exist in ratings, feedback, personality, traits etc.

The importance of mound visits usually pops up once a year on the forum and at least the last 2 years I haven't seen any hard evidence of it doing anything. Again except for the reps if you have warm ups turned on.

well that's my take

very nice

[TheMaus2]

Originally Posted by Hrycaj

Along with everyone else’s suggestions on how to get the actual game moving faster something must be done about commercials. According to the link posted by cynical something like 51 minutes are devoted to advertising. I realize advertising drives the bus but couldn’t we have small screen ads or something going on during the “dead time” of the actual game? I also realize that the answer is already upon us. Baseball will turn to selling space on their jersey like European football does. They had already sold their souls to Nike starting with the 2020 season.

The flaw in taking out dead time from commercials is that without commercials, cable channels have less money for TV deals. This can probably be alleviated by your jersey idea but I'm a bit skeptical that this could work.

[TheMaus2]

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

They already tried that, not allowing the players to step out except on a foul ball. They abandoned it, because the players did not like it. We mustn't upset our millionaire babies. They have to step out every pitch, so they can straighten their Batting Gloves.

Spoken like a man who will never be paid to do something only a select group of humans can do at the highest level.

[Hrycaj]

Originally Posted by TheMaus2

The flaw in taking out dead time from commercials is that without commercials, cable channels have less money for TV deals. This can probably be alleviated by your jersey idea but I'm a bit skeptical that this could work.

Maybe I'm missing something in your response. All I was saying is run the commercial in the corner on a small screen type of set up during the low points of the game. Wouldn't that both meet the advertising obligation and shorten overall runtime? As for ads on jerseys I'm 100000000% against it but it is coming nonetheless.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Hrycaj

Maybe I'm missing something in your response. All I was saying is run the commercial in the corner on a small screen type of set up during the low points of the game. Wouldn't that both meet the advertising obligation and shorten overall runtime? As for ads on jerseys I'm 100000000% against it but it is coming nonetheless.

Yeah, there's enough dull moments that it feels they could easily move 1min of commercial breaks and convert that to like picture-in-picture on-screen ads during the inning. That alone would shave about 18 minutes off each game, which would be huge.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Hrycaj

Maybe I'm missing something in your response. All I was saying is run the commercial in the corner on a small screen type of set up during the low points of the game. Wouldn't that both meet the advertising obligation and shorten overall runtime? As for ads on jerseys I'm 100000000% against it but it is coming nonetheless.

The worst thing about advertising on jerseys is it won't be done as a way to lessen the commercials we already have. It will be in addition to

Split screen commercials would be a good idea if they cut out some of the "go to" commercials. I'm just afraid they wouldn't be able to help themselves and they too would end up being in addition to.

[ALB123]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

There really isn't a problem or need to change rules with baseball on the diamond. The MLB front office problem is that it has no idea how to market baseball in the modern times. It doesn't know how to sell its product the players.

Trout the best player in decades and no ordinary person knows of him or what he even looks like. While my grandmother, who knows nothing of sports, knows who Tom Brady and Lebron James are.

I have to agree with you there. I hate the thought of my favorite sport falling apart, but you're right, in today's sports world you need to have superstars both on the field and off to capture the attention of young, modern sports fans.

EDIT: Sweed, you are so right about that. We'd end up watching half of the game on split-screen. Any good idea has to be abused as much as possible in today's world. Like today's TV channels that use the bottom 1/3 of the screen to advertise their own up-coming programming. That makes me rage. I actually stopped watching TBS because of that. I envision a day where we all have 100" screens at home and the entire screen is multiple ads except for a 10" x 10" square in the middle showing the game or tv show. I hope there are no TV execs reading this thread.

[Azagoth]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

just get rid of the kiss cam and tshirt launch and voila there's 10 minutes back.

but that would destroy the baseball meme industry.