Pedro

Jestre · 10-15-2003, 11:04 PM

For those of you criticizing Pedro for not pitching game 6....

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/ne...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

NEW YORK -- Red Sox ace Pedro Martinez approached manager Grady Little on Tuesday night and made it clear that he was willing to pitch Game 6 on three days' rest to help his team stave off elimination at Yankee Stadium.
As much as Little appreciated the offer, he declined and stuck with 38-year-old veteran John Burkett, who will be working on nine days of rest.

JML · 10-15-2003, 11:07 PM

But... but... he beats up old guys!

Skipaway · 10-15-2003, 11:08 PM

Not really that bad a decision for Little. Pedro has not been great in the playoffs, and short rests wouldn't help.

dougaiton · 10-15-2003, 11:23 PM

I never understood why they would have chosen Pedro for game 6. You would then have had Wakefield for game 7 if he's ready, but it was been made clear Little wanted to have him in relief. The argument goes that if you lose game 6 you're out, so thus you use your best pitcher on less rest, but I don't really understand this. His W or L is just as necessary in game 7 as game 6. The choice comes down to whether you want to use 3-days rest Timmy and 3-days rest Pedro, or full-rest Burkett and full-rest Pedro. As I think the stats for 3 days rest returners probably backs up (although I'm trusting in the broadcasters here ... ugh) the fact that the second choice is right.

Am I missing something here? Is there more too it?

EDIT: Terribly written.

matskralc · 10-15-2003, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by JML
But... but... he beats up old guys!

You mean he hasn't been hanged for that, yet? What's taking so long?

draven085 · 10-15-2003, 11:25 PM

Goddamned due process *shakes fist*

CommishJoe · 10-16-2003, 12:02 AM

Even with hindsight, I think Little made the right decision here.

kingfc22 · 10-16-2003, 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by CommishJoe
Even with hindsight, I think Little made the right decision here.

Through 7 1/3 innings I would say you were right. Go Sox, make George go wallow in his money.

CommishJoe · 10-17-2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by kingfc22
Through 7 1/3 innings I would say you were right. Go Sox, make George go wallow in his money.

Good thing he didn't take him out in time

10-15-2003, 11:04 PM	#1
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Pedro For those of you criticizing Pedro for not pitching game 6.... http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/ne...=.jsp&c_id=mlb NEW YORK -- Red Sox ace Pedro Martinez approached manager Grady Little on Tuesday night and made it clear that he was willing to pitch Game 6 on three days' rest to help his team stave off elimination at Yankee Stadium. As much as Little appreciated the offer, he declined and stuck with 38-year-old veteran John Burkett, who will be working on nine days of rest. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

10-15-2003, 11:08 PM	#3
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Not really that bad a decision for Little. Pedro has not been great in the playoffs, and short rests wouldn't help. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

10-15-2003, 11:23 PM	#4
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	I never understood why they would have chosen Pedro for game 6. You would then have had Wakefield for game 7 if he's ready, but it was been made clear Little wanted to have him in relief. The argument goes that if you lose game 6 you're out, so thus you use your best pitcher on less rest, but I don't really understand this. His W or L is just as necessary in game 7 as game 6. The choice comes down to whether you want to use 3-days rest Timmy and 3-days rest Pedro, or full-rest Burkett and full-rest Pedro. As I think the stats for 3 days rest returners probably backs up (although I'm trusting in the broadcasters here ... ugh) the fact that the second choice is right. Am I missing something here? Is there more too it? EDIT: Terribly written. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

10-16-2003, 12:02 AM	#7
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Even with hindsight, I think Little made the right decision here. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

10-15-2003, 11:07 PM	#2
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	But... but... he beats up old guys!

10-15-2003, 11:25 PM	#6
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	Goddamned due process shakes fist